Armada of Demise Expert Mode Requirements

[ZerotakerZX]

Titles aren't a good way to measuring someone's expertise at the game.
If we'd require Masq clear then it should be level 100 at the very least, everything under that level is basically free especially if you have a 15* weapon.
This would also prevent people from carrying by lending account as it would be tedious to log in and out daily for someone else is not only tedious but would flag your account for suspicious behavior, resulting in a ban.
Solo XQ is definitely way too punishing during legitimate play but that wont matter as soon as Sega releases the S1~3 Abilities that turn your weapon into a Solo XQ destroyer, which can happen any day. And even without it still can be cheesed with Hero Talis, Pets (in general) and S4 Vampiric strike,
Solo Mama-Desu is by far the easiest part of this. People get clear times as low as 9 minutes on this quest (depending on class) so an average joe definitely should be able to hit the 18 minute mark with some training.

What's the best to measure time ingame, beside actual time?

I spend more time PvPing on forums actually, because I can do it from work, but I can't play from work.

Time spent is relevant. Someone may have 1000 hours spent with 1000+ titles, and someone else may have 5000+ hours while still being at 500 titles. Others remain online even when they're not at their PCs but away sleeping/working/etc., others logout when they're just going for a bio break etc.

Titles are something that you have to actively go for it to earn it, which is different than Expert Reqs. The crushing majority of titles are simply of the variety of "spend time doing this", without requesting effort from the player, just time investment. Expert Reqs are the opposite; they do not require time investment, they require performance. You can have 10000+ hours playing a single build. If you cannot meet the requirements, you don't get the title.

Many people who were complaining about the Time Chronos Stone for 1100 titles didn't have titles from grinding OT weapons, titles from initiating and completing +50 Risk SH Advance Quests, titles for completing 500 tasks in XQs, titles from Casino, titles from NPC Partners etc., which are all just time-gates (and meseta sinks for OT grinding).

Didn't you we called special olympics pvping now. Didn't bother to read the rest.

[Dark Mits]

What's the best to measure time ingame, beside actual time?

There isn't any metric, at least not available to the public. I do not know if Sega has any way to internally measure how much time a player is active during their online time.

[XrosBlader821]

What's the best to measure time ingame, beside actual time?

How is that related to my post again?

[ZerotakerZX]

How is that related to my post again?

Exposition: you told that titles is not very precise way to tell ingame time, but there was the only way at the time.

YOu knew that of course, you just failed to answer my question and decided to avoid answering it, but did so poorly. Next.

[XrosBlader821]

Exposition: you told that titles is not very precise way to tell ingame time, but there was the only way at the time.

YOu knew that of course, you just failed to answer my question and decided to avoid answering it, but did so poorly. Next.

No that's not what I said and I don't understand how you could have confused expertise (aka being good at the game) with "time spent playing".

[Moffen]

I have over 11000 hours in this gam and i am hot garbage.
I also have 1073 titles.
Neither time statistics or titles will say you're good at the game or not.
None of those two things equate to player skill level.

If you cant clear the current requirements, you shouldnt be in expert.
Anyway
the eq is fun and the music is cool, big wall-kun fistobot was pretty fun to fight and i died laughing when i found an enemy called Saber Diggle. (Shout out to friend who pointed that out)

[Dark Priest]

I know i'm not crazy, in that this topic was split, i mean it makes sense as it was really off topic in the one i know these posts from, Someone confirm i haven't completely lost it yet.

[otakun]

This was brought up before in the previous thread about this but yeah, there are players in the middle ground who will get fucked over. I know cause I feel that I am in that. I consider myself decent but not good enough for expert, I don't have the concentration and reflexes required for it, it's just how it is. It sucks cause it separates me from my more skilled friends but this is what the playerbase wanted since they're too lazy to make their own groups.

You could always just cheat if you feel you deserve it.

[Kondibon]

It sucks cause it separates me from my more skilled friends

but this is what the playerbase wanted since they're too lazy to make their own groups.

See my rant on the 2nd and 3rd pages about why "just make your own groups" isn't a solution because the EQ system isn't conductive to it, but also that people should be more open to low manning things and just carrying the rest of the pug.

You say you can't play with your friends, then call people lazy for not making organized groups? Are they really your friends if they aren't willing to play with you even though you don't meet the expert requirements? You're aware it's a check box right? People can just turn it off, and it temporarily turns off if you start a quest while in a party with someone who doesn't meet the requirements.

If you cant clear the current requirements, you shouldnt be in expert.

If you CAN clear the requirements you shouldn't be in expert. Source: I cleared the requirements.

[Ezodagrom]

This was brought up before in the previous thread about this but yeah, there are players in the middle ground who will get fucked over. I know cause I feel that I am in that. I consider myself decent but not good enough for expert, I don't have the concentration and reflexes required for it, it's just how it is. It sucks cause it separates me from my more skilled friends but this is what the playerbase wanted since they're too lazy to make their own groups.

You could always just cheat if you feel you deserve it.

I'm also in the middle ground (I think), my equipment isn't amazing and I'm rather clumsy too, but I've managed to clear both requirements.
There's some classes that have an easier time at the solo XQ, like Summoner or Phantom (mostly rod using techs).
For the mother/deus trigger, I've found force to be a great class for that, since force can still hit Deus core from far away in the last phases (which saves a bit of time).