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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandrious12 View Post
    The reasoning is somewhat simple yet, does take experience knowing the psyche of the common casual and elitist online playing gamer.

    The reason why they are so bothered is due to 1. The game finally coning west after what they all deem is "too late", knowing full well they had a english release ready to go all those years ago, but SEGA decided to make a deal with a certain asian publisher to not release PSO2 anywhere else, the west basically, for at least 5 years. Sega who has a glorious record of bad decision making, agreed to it. Likely their justification for it was thinking their would be no profit in the west afterall due to all the hacking and cheating that happens in the west, which devalues the franchise and turns players away thus no money, when in reality, it was their own incompetence for not taking proper security measures. Thus why alot of the players here will appear jaded to you.
    For one, yes, the game is 8 years late with it's release when most people, who really wanted to play it, already went on the japanese servers and just played.

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    A second reason to why it bothers them is, Sega again likes to make bad choices. But they are not stupid. They all know full well, no matter how much any of them will actually try to justify it, that Sega can, and probably will, send a squad of GMs to Ship 2, to find and eradicate, all non jp IP players, and any masking their IP will eventually be found and banned too. It is within their right, anyone not of Japan is breaking ToS just being there, and SEGA only allowed it thus far because half of us was spending money on it. Doesnt matter if you put in 3000 hours and spent 3000 bucks, if they decide they wanna force every non JP to the western release, whether they will play it or not, it is gonna happen, and that thought, is in the back of their minds and it terrifies most of them. SEGA may also put a Cease and Desist on the translation group to help get all of us off easier.
    You seem to be quite the fortune teller, if you know, that Sega WILL do this. I'm one of the players, who does not see the point to switch over and let me tell you, I'm definitely not terrified by them blocking my access or banning my account. I personally doubt they will put on an IP block. If they will, then fine, VPN time. And I doubt a lot, that they will send out people to clean the servers from westerners. For one that would be a lot of effort for such a minor "problem", if you can even call it that. Let's look back on JP PSU. So many players started over there after NA/EU PSU servers died and there was never any blocking and I can't say a whole lot of people have been banned either. They also didn't "force" you to leave and switch over to the XBOX version of the game because it was international. So, while there is a chance that something like this could happen, I can't actually see it happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandrious12 View Post
    God I hate typing on a phone. A third reason is the impending loot box laws that may pass. If it does, then the AC scratch offs and anything similar to it, will likely not come west side. Its a f2p game afterall, the law is mostky made to protect minors, young children who are attracted to free to play games, thus they are under the belief the game will either become p2w, or alot of non cosmetic, non QoL items will be removed, thus no way to get that gambling rush many are fond for. This also effects my second reasoning and why Sega would be more justified to ban all non JP players, because if that law passes, any minor playing on the JP servers are subjected under the new law, and playing the game would be illegal, many legal issues could come as a result if said minors were found out and reported about it by say, Sega themselves or as simple as them talking about how Jimmy used moms credit card to gamble on the gacha and won sone high prized items on it, with his friends during gym class. Then tattle tell Bimmy reports it to the P.E teacher, thus the parents get called in, then they try to yell at Sega about it.
    If they end up removing items or parts of content because of licencing and law issues it's all the more reason to see the west version as an inferior version.
    I personally want all the content that I can possibly get and not 50%, 75% or even 95%. Brings me back (again) to PSU when the game was still relevant: When the EU/NA PSU PC/PS2 servers closed you ended up with 3 options: 1. stop playing at all, 2. switching to XBOX360 version which was international but inferior with content (e. g. some weapons and stuff that were newly added to game, didn't even have new looks, just recycled models and lots of other things) or 3. play the JP version which was the most advanced version, with all available content. So I decided to go for the japanese version, had to learn some japanese to get by the game and was happy for the rest of the days, in fact even more happy than on the EU/NA PC/PS2 servers.
    It's just a matter of personal preferance really: Is it okay for you if things are missing? Then sure, go ahead. You want all available stuff? Probably not the wisest choice to go on a western server because of said licencing and law issues.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandrious12 View Post
    So theirs your answer. Yes, alit of these players will try to rebuke, or laugh it off, or say its not true. But I been playing mmos and onliners for 20 years, I seen and done it all, I seen all sorts of mind sets and pretty much know how every type of online gaming person thinks. They can deny it and rebuke all they want, but in the back of their minds they know its true, they just do not want to accept it.

    Wait for the game, support it, I personally will spend on launch day up to 200 bucks for a few cosmetics but mostly, I want storage and inventory space, since I like to horde stuff to sort out all at once later. May even take a 2 week vacation to play pso2 and my other games while doing my daily training. Dont let the doomsayers deter ya.
    What will be true in the end will ultimately be decided by Sega in the end. I said it a countless times already in this thread, I'm not against this or anything. Ultimately I'm just saying
    all the people who are so hype about it may want to hold their horses a bit, because it may or may not be as successful as the japanese version. Oh and, if you want to be technical about it, it grinds my gears how everyone throws out reasons now why the japanese version wasn't playable anyway, and that's just not true.

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    @Karen
    1) the capcha was NOT easy
    2) for a while, buying AC was VERY risky & overproced
    3) console players don't have the luxury of DL'ing a tweaker

    So yeah, for many it was unplayable. I still have CO's ...that I can't finish because I have no idea what the requirements are! Klotho, Koffee, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by r00tabaga View Post
    @Karen
    1) the capcha was NOT easy
    2) for a while, buying AC was VERY risky & overproced
    3) console players don't have the luxury of DL'ing a tweaker

    So yeah, for many it was unplayable. I still have CO's ...that I can't finish because I have no idea what the requirements are! Klotho, Koffee, etc
    1) Of course there is easier things out there, but it's so bad, that it's completely undoable - there's plenty website where you could just copy the letters and be done about it. As you only really need the captcha once for making account and maybe if you want to manage your account afterwards, it's really not such a big deal in my eyes.

    2) I agree on AC being pricey due to Webmoney. Why it was risky I don't know. Never had any trouble with it. And all of that problems was moot at the point when PSO2es came with ingame AC-purchase
    through Google Wallet.

    3) Even if you don't have the tweaker the game is not unplayable. I keep referencing JP PSU today, so I'll do it again - that game had no patch at all even then people got by just fine. I will admit that it can
    be hassle if you can't understand it all, but there is plenty of things available to help you if you have trouble.

    Of course you will say now that you don't want to play it at all if you don't understand all the things and that it can be a downer for some people, yes I agree and understand that too.
    But unplayable is just different in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r00tabaga View Post
    @Karen
    1) the capcha was NOT easy
    2) for a while, buying AC was VERY risky & overproced
    3) console players don't have the luxury of DL'ing a tweaker

    So yeah, for many it was unplayable. I still have CO's ...that I can't finish because I have no idea what the requirements are! Klotho, Koffee, etc
    It can be really hard to use logic on that guy, trust me i know.
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    yikes this thread

    niggas need to chill lmao

    let NA people be excited for NA, the whole "I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE SO EXCITED WHEN YOU COULD HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 7 YEARS" shtick is pretty ????? since it doesnt matter if you understand or not. humans are human and make what one may perceive to be strange decisions. if you feel they'd be better off on JP then that's one thing but keep it to yourself unless input is asked for. just let people be happy u losers.

    then the NA peeps who are all like "lamo enjoy losing your progress from JP" or anything similar (not really seen in this thread) can bugger off. also, while it is your prerogative to not play a game unless you can understand 110% of it without any external sources, i have to be honest and give ya a big ass X TO DOUBT that you would have crawled through all the corners for all the lore and that the single line snippets that remained unchanged for several years would matter that much. I feel like you would have been fine and adapted quickly and easily to JP translations throughout the years, especially if you came after EP4 when the team stepped up their coverage and there were tons of translations and sources for figuring out shit; but that's just me. at the end of the day it just feels more like an excuse rather than a legit reason from where im standing. If i'm wrong aight ill hold that L, other wise stop playin yourself.

    also learning hirigana and katakana legit takes like 1-2 days of practice and its a valuable skill for PSO2 where a lot of things use the simple kana lmao. PS4 players would have had 2000% an easier time with basic menuing if the knew kana.

    man ya'll wild and need to chill frfr
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    Quote Originally Posted by GHNeko View Post

    also learning hirigana and katakana legit takes like 1-2 days of practice and its a valuable skill for PSO2 where a lot of things use the simple kana lmao. PS4 players would have had 2000% an easier time with basic menuing if the knew kana.

    man ya'll wild and need to chill frfr
    are YOU sir IMPLYING that I'd have to LEARN another language just to read and enjoy my video games? even if its the bare minimal?? TCH!! i'll just play something else until the NA release tyvm! nothin personal kid.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go back to reading my manga before the Mods come in and clean up the thread, safe spaces and all
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    that being said, no one should be forced into learning 2 sets of alphabet to be able to do basic menuing, but its a very valuable skill and a good chunk of poeple who reached a certain level of desire/passion/interest did so when playing the PS4/Vita version. Everyone else just stuck to PC.

    I only really brought it up because some people who opted out of the JP version made it seem like that the hoop jumping you had to do was exponentially bigger than what was really the case, while people's time and effort that they're willing to spend is subjective and varies from person to person; i can't help but to feel the the barrier to play JP is comically low so it leaves me questioning how much people REALLY wanted to play.

    either way, it is what it is.



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    I'll learn a second language for a girl, not for a videogame guys...

    ...but again, I'm one of the ones that at least tried. I could only really do Free Fields, Bonus Quests & EQ's on my PS4/Vita but still had fun.
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    https://www.twitter.com/sam_mullen/s...68561781645313
    https://www.twitter.com/sam_mullen/s...05241410625536
    it looks like sega of america is not handling the pso2 localization this time.
    combine this with the fact that the trailer was posted from the japanese phantasystarch youtube.
    it's likely direct from Sega of Japan.
    Sam Mullen is Director of Production at SEGA of America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zandra117 View Post
    https://www.twitter.com/sam_mullen/s...68561781645313
    https://www.twitter.com/sam_mullen/s...05241410625536
    it looks like sega of america is not handling the pso2 localization this time.
    combine this with the fact that the trailer was posted from the japanese phantasystarch youtube.
    it's likely direct from Sega of Japan.
    Sam Mullen is Director of Production at SEGA of America.
    I say this is a good thing, solely because of how it was handled between 2 teams during PSU (missing content with the Dev's and gullible community trying to pass off missing model data with placement models as "unique" aka one-handed invisible sword), leave all the technical stuff to Sega of Japan (content updates, etc) and just hire someone (im sure they already have people) to do just the translations and thats it and what sounds like what they're already doing is setting up a overseas team to help run the Western community forums and whatnot.

    Obviously guess is they're not trying to fall into the PSU trap again with a massive content gap
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