Next Update 06/26/2019

[ZerotakerZX]

I'm pretty sure Kondibon is saying who would use anything other than damage SSAs if they were added to the 1st Gen 14*s. Basically, adding SSA slots without changing the Potential is the same as just adding a damage boost to the Potential if someone is just going to add Damage SSAs.

Yes, that was like super obvious. Some ppl are so bad at reading and so good at getting upset

[Maninbluejumpsuit]

I still would prefer the "create a 15* version via trade-in with scaled up stats and s1-3" path.

[XrosBlader821]

I actually kinda resent the existence of damage SSAs because they push a lot of other interesting or potentially useful stuff out.

Dito. at best Damage ups should've been tied to Flash skills or more of the harder to meet conditionals.Or Ideally be like S4 in that they're completely unique.and not "S1: Ability that was already a S2".

Yes, that was like super obvious. Some ppl are so bad at reading and so good at getting upset

Or people tried to be funny because its rather rare to see someone unironically go for Status Effects on their weapon and you missed the joke.

[Dark Mits]

I don't think the problem is that damage abilities exist. I think the problem is that they are the best options for nearly 99% of possible builds and content.

But on the other hand, any non-damage options are not exactly helpful. Why ask for more PP regen or lower PP costs if I can do 1-2 autoattacks to get 50PP+ back? [Yes, i know that there are builds that do not have this luxury]. What is the benefit of abilities that reduce incoming damage? What is the benefit of abilities that increase incoming heals, when even in UH with 50% healing reduction we get back to full hp in 1.5 Resta ticks? What is the benefit of those Flash abilities when they turn out to be on average equal or worse to the static abilities, and at the same time do not activate on will?

But another important benefit of direct damage amplifying abilities is that by increasing our damage, we simultaneously reduce combat time, which means we are exposed for less time to enemy attacks, therefore further devaluing non-damage abilities.

[Kondibon]

I don't think the problem is that damage abilities exist. I think the problem is that they are the best options for nearly 99% of possible builds and content.

That's why it's a problem that they exist. :/

[ZerotakerZX]

Dito. at best Damage ups should've been tied to Flash skills or more of the harder to meet conditionals.Or Ideally be like S4 in that they're completely unique.and not "S1: Ability that was already a S2".



Or people tried to be funny because its rather rare to see someone unironically go for Status Effects on their weapon and you missed the joke.

Yes, cause toxic accusation about dps shaming is so much fun. Don't write anything anymore, you are bad at coherency.

[Dark Priest]

Yes, that was like super obvious. Some ppl are so bad at reading and so good at getting upset

Na, it wasn't "super obvious" what IS obvious, however, is kids like you wanting digital back pats for making stupid, pointless posts like that instead of just leaving it alone, No one gives a shit about your snarky retorts that adds nothing

Also, take the time to look up the difference between "sarcasm" and "upset" to help you look just a little less dumb.

You were better off keeping your mouth shut. kiddo.

That's why it's a problem that they exist. :/

People always just flock to pure damage increase whenever possible. because for most that is all that matters.

[Kondibon]

People always just flock to pure damage increase whenever possible. because for most that is all that matters.

For most of the game it IS all that matters. Like Dark Mits said, why get pp recovery over more damage when you don't really need more pp recovery? Most of the utility ones aren't as useful as raw damage, but if damage wasn't an option you'd see people optimizing things at least on a per weapon/class basis instead of just slapping more damage on the weapon.

Though I guess there is some thought to be put into which conditionals work for what you're doing. No one is gonna use crit SSAs on a Ra/Hu, meanwhile they're basically free on Br/Ph.

[Dark Priest]

For most of the game it IS all that matters. Like Dark Mits said, why get pp recovery over more damage when you don't really need more pp recovery? Most of the utility ones aren't as useful as raw damage, but if damage wasn't an option you'd see people optimizing things at least on a per weapon/class basis instead of just slapping more damage on the weapon.

Though I guess there is some thought to be put into which conditionals work for what you're doing. No one is gonna use crit SSAs on a Ra/Hu, meanwhile they're basically free on Br/Ph.

I think that is why they started just adding damage boosts to most pots now, in addition to something unique. because they knew this, But pure damage increases are hard to come by as we already noted. so we need alternatives untill you get such SSAs.

[Kondibon]

I think that is why they started just adding damage boosts to most pots now, in addition to something unique. because they knew this, But pure damage increases are hard to come by as we already noted. so we need alternatives untill you get such SSAs.

The pure damage ones are weaker than the conditionals anyway, so the conditional ones are the better options. Honestly, for most normal content I feel like stacking the damage isn't as important as utility though. I prefer better pp management for anything that requires keeping up with lots of people, because there simply aren't as many chances to slow down and recover your pp.