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    Quote Originally Posted by silo1991 View Post
    i understand she couldnt do nothing, but common how can she be happy with the loss of her sister .
    Because we, as human beings, are not responsible for our thoughts and feelings. You can't help that you feel in a specific way, or have a specific thought - even if that thought is intrusive or terrible. That's fine, that's normal, and it doesn't mean you are terrible for having a thought. It's only when you decide to act on those thoughts then we have a problem.

    What I described now is how people act normally: but when they experience something traumatic, these thoughts get ten times worse. That's because our brains aren't wired to handle this kind of trauma so when it happens they react in weird ways, creating coping mechanisms that are almost always unhealthy and counter-productive. For an example look at all those stories of survivors who endured something terrible and then think it was all their fault, even though it obviously wasn't - that's their brain creating a coping mechanism to try to rationalize how something so terrible could have happened. This is what happened to Melrondia: she lost her sister, so her brain decided that instead of trying to process the loss it will sideline it and focus on the guy she had a puppy crush on and who is now free. These kind of "inappropriate" reactions to trauma often happen in real world as well and people who experience them often feel extremely guilty afterwards because they feel like they're terrible for having this kind of thoughts. Survivor guilt is a terrible experience that often takes years to unpack: It's actually a very well done and realistic representation.

    What Melrondia and Gettemhart needed was healthy support groups that would allow them to slowly get over the trauma in an understanding and constructive way. ARKS clearly never heard of therapists - a group of friends can also be such a group but unfortunately they didn't have any except Zeno and each other. You can't help others if you're hurt yourself, so their dysfunctional relationship only made things worse over time, not better.

    Melrondia eventually gets better because she gets seperated from a bad influence on her mental state (Gettemhart, and yes she is also a bad influence on him but that's neither one's fault - though you could make a point about how Gettemhart's side of the trauma is much more poorly written in a stereotypical manpain way, but we're getting distracted here), but also because she gets support in the form of someone who can hear her out and understand without judgement. In other words, the player character.

    That was my tl;dr about basics of psychology and human empathy.
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    anyway i think the biggest advantage this anime has going for itself is that its more show less tell compared to the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehCubey View Post
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    wow i didnt knew an effect of survivor trauma can also lead into emotional reactions out of place .

    im starting to think , the fact Arks lack on psicological attention services could be part of Luther corruption in order to gain sociopath hechmens for his malevolous purposes .

    it can be a nice theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by TehCubey View Post
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    Pretty nicely written. And yeah, ARKS under Luther didn't really "do" Therapy and mental health care. I'm kinda with silo1991 that this seems to be on purpose too as it gives Luther a nice ever growing set of deranged and easily manipulated People to pick from.

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    Ep 11 preview, start of Episode 2:
    https://pso2.jp/anime_eporacle/story/11/
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    They made Quna a lot more competent and hardcore than she was in the game but made Ash have significantly less agency in the story arc, compared to the Player in the game version. Ash's lack of agency also makes it hard to see him and Quna being friends since Quna never opens up to him as she did with the Player nor did Ash do much to make her feel like she owes him (beyond tackling her away from becoming Hadred's meal, at least but considering that she saved him from berserk ARKS last episode, that just means their even).

    They could have at least have Ash relate to Quna on the issue of having non-blood related family members seemingly abandoning/betraying you and growing up as a completely broken person because of it especially since Ash will eventually have to mercy kill Xion soon instead of that awkward transition from night to day. Would've given Ash some character development.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezodagrom View Post
    Ep 11 preview, start of Episode 2:
    https://pso2.jp/anime_eporacle/story/11/
    Aww, looks like we're not getting the Tournament arc sponsored by Huey. Could've snuck in an extra Stratos cameo too as a spectator given that she'll eventually join the Combat Division and is one of the few people who actually respects Huey and Klaris Klaes III. I wonder how they'll do the Apprentice appearance.

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    The anime is not following the same chaotic order as the game, IF Afin knowing about Apprentice needs to be in the GP, they only need to introduce it just before they decide on the Lilipa/Apprentice arc (which actually "ended" in The Animation lol), the official statement now is they destroyed Elder, so no sense to do the GP if he is not yet attacking, they are going for dewman, I guess they want to ad kouhai dewman as soon as possible lol

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    I assume he finds out some other way. I always found her appearance there very weird because ... well nobody comments on it. Not even Huey and the Brat who should have been monitoring the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loafhero View Post
    They made Quna a lot more competent and hardcore than she was in the game but made Ash have significantly less agency in the story arc, compared to the Player in the game version. Ash's lack of agency also makes it hard to see him and Quna being friends since Quna never opens up to him as she did with the Player nor did Ash do much to make her feel like she owes him (beyond tackling her away from becoming Hadred's meal, at least but considering that she saved him from berserk ARKS last episode, that just means their even).

    They could have at least have Ash relate to Quna on the issue of having non-blood related family members seemingly abandoning/betraying you and growing up as a completely broken person because of it especially since Ash will eventually have to mercy kill Xion soon instead of that awkward transition from night to day. Would've given Ash some character development.



    Aww, looks like we're not getting the Tournament arc sponsored by Huey. Could've snuck in an extra Stratos cameo too as a spectator given that she'll eventually join the Combat Division and is one of the few people who actually respects Huey and Klaris Klaes III. I wonder how they'll do the Apprentice appearance.
    Didn't she 'splode when Luther Infested Orcale when boom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinamori View Post
    Didn't she 'splode when Luther Infested Orcale when boom?
    If you mean Xion, she died earlier which caused Luther drop all pretense and completely turn Dark Falz. It was the fight before the Angel Fight where we ended up killing her.

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