Deciding on Affixes

[Kondibon]

val weapons have obnoxious variance, so you would never want to do something like this without 100% crit. you'd be better off using invade rods for this purpose if you want, but they don't beat LS without slayers added too. there's no point unless you are min-maxing for a specific purpose (or are questionably insane like neko).

Damage variance gets normalized for crafted weapons doesn't it? The main reason not to use Val weapons for crafted 13*s would be the fact that the pot is 10% damage and nothing else, when there are other 13*s with s1-3 with better pots.

[the_importer_]

Damage variance gets normalized for crafted weapons doesn't it? The main reason not to use Val weapons for crafted 13*s would be the fact that the pot is 10% damage and nothing else, when there are other 13*s with s1-3 with better pots.

Invade Sorcerer-NT is the only 13★ that remains with S1, S2 and S3 which does more than just 10% more damage (12%), we fall in the 14★ after that.

[Dark Mits]

I am not a theorycrafter, but from the posts here I've understood the following: -NT crafting is worth going for only and only if all of the following happen at the same time:
1) Extended to max rank (obviously)
2) Effective Crit rate boosted to near 100%
3) Slayer/Ripper combination for a specific enemy type and element, with Darker / Light being the most useful.
4) Weapon must be among some very limited pool of weapons that have S-ability availability AND overpowering potential when compared to flat +10% / +13% boost.

If the above all happen, the weapon provides a noticeable performance boost for the specific Enemy Type / Element combination. If one of the above does not apply, the weapon provides barely noticeable (if any) performance boost over 15*s. So the crux is that unless it's a seriously devoted player, it's not worth going for it.

[silo1991]

I am not a theorycrafter, but from the posts here I've understood the following: -NT crafting is worth going for only and only if all of the following happen at the same time:
1) Extended to max rank (obviously)
2) Effective Crit rate boosted to near 100%
3) Slayer/Ripper combination for a specific enemy type and element, with Darker / Light being the most useful.
4) Weapon must be among some very limited pool of weapons that have S-ability availability AND overpowering potential when compared to flat +10% / +13% boost.

If the above all happen, the weapon provides a noticeable performance boost for the specific Enemy Type / Element combination. If one of the above does not apply, the weapon provides barely noticeable (if any) performance boost over 15*s. So the crux is that unless it's a seriously devoted player, it's not worth going for it.

in the case of the zeinesis wand its a good idea to craft it ? im considering it because i like the effect of party heal and damage buff and there is no S-ability that does something similar so far

and as fully technique Te/Fo that weapon got outdated in matter of damage long ago

[ArcaneTechs]

I am not a theorycrafter, but from the posts here I've understood the following: -NT crafting is worth going for only and only if all of the following happen at the same time:
1) Extended to max rank (obviously)
2) Effective Crit rate boosted to near 100%
3) Slayer/Ripper combination for a specific enemy type and element, with Darker / Light being the most useful.
4) Weapon must be among some very limited pool of weapons that have S-ability availability AND overpowering potential when compared to flat +10% / +13% boost.

If the above all happen, the weapon provides a noticeable performance boost for the specific Enemy Type / Element combination. If one of the above does not apply, the weapon provides barely noticeable (if any) performance boost over 15*s. So the crux is that unless it's a seriously devoted player, it's not worth going for it.

Invade NT and I think a specific 7 or 8* series are the only ones worth bothering for crafting unless you're filling in for a specific niche. The 7/8* series ( I can't remember the name) only reaches 14/15* damage if it manages several extensive affixes for stuff like Rippers, Ult Busters etc @ 8's to make it work.

[Dark Mits]

in the case of the zeinesis wand its a good idea to craft it ? im considering it because i like the effect of party heal and damage buff and there is no S-ability that does something similar so far

and as fully technique Te/Fo that weapon got outdated in matter of damage long ago

If you are a Wand-user Te/Fo (like me), you may want to wait for Aletheia Wand to be released in PSO2es. Update: It's extending, we can add classes or try for great success. Aletheia Rod with Techer added on it can work. While it will have about 300 T-atk less than maximally extended Zeinesis, it will support S1, S2 and S3, it will bring +17% Power (Zeinesis brings +12%) and the 2% Party Power buff and heal as well. The negatives, however, are that 1) we don't know when Aletheia Wand will be available, 2) You will need extreme luck or no-lifing the relevant EQ session in PSO2es to get a single drop and 3) You will need 1500 cubes to get it to +35, since weapons from PSO2es drop at +30 cap only. On the plus side, you will not need to spend Plagrimos, Emerards, Diards etc.

Invade NT and I think a specific 7 or 8* series are the only ones worth bothering for crafting unless you're filling in for a specific niche. The 7/8* series ( I can't remember the name) only reaches 14/15* damage if it manages several extensive affixes for stuff like Rippers, Ult Busters etc @ 8's to make it work.

Was it the Red and Blue weapons that drop in Advance Quests? Did they get -NT treatment or are they still exclusively OT?

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Updated a bit in the first paragraph

[Kondibon]

Invade Sorcerer-NT is the only 13★ that remains with S1, S2 and S3 which does more than just 10% more damage (12%), we fall in the 14★ after that.

Invade is mainly what I was referring to. If you're going to bother doing this you might as well go all out.

2) Effective Crit rate boosted to near 100%

Damage variance on crafted weapons doesn't matter unless it's an OT weapon and below a certain craft level. You don't need 100% crit.

[silo1991]

blop

that wand with zeinesis potential plus S-abilities :O , sign me in

[ArcaneTechs]

Was it the Red and Blue weapons that drop in Advance Quests? Did they get -NT treatment or are they still exclusively OT?

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Updated a bit in the first paragraph

no, I honestly don't remember the name for it

[Zorak000]

overall I think making a bunch of extended ripper/slayer weapons might be more effort than anybody needs for the game right now

however making one light weakness / anti-darker weapon, and one dark weakness/ if they ever give us an anti-glowbot ability weapon would probably still get a good amount of use