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    Musashi better than DoubleSaber?
    I don't agree: twin swords are very slow and you can get hit instead of hitting enemies; Double Saber is faster, has a good special for casting characters (last combo attack hits three times!!!) and are not so rare.

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    On 2005-01-19 11:57, SheWren wrote:
    Musashi better than DoubleSaber?
    I don't agree: twin swords are very slow and you can get hit instead of hitting enemies; Double Saber is faster, has a good special for casting characters (last combo attack hits three times!!!) and are not so rare.
    double saber

    musashi

    The stat difference is obvious. Musashi is stronger.

    Slower? Well, not so much. They have about the same speed overall, but twin swords pile hits together, leaving you vulnerable between hits; while double sabers spread the beatings pretty evenly over the combo, keeping the enemy at bay.

    Double sabers strike 6 times as opposed to twin swords 5 per combo.

    My personal preferance is a nice double saber, but if you know when to start your combo and the earliest time you can possibly start each attack (or a god/battle), you should have no problems with a twin sword.

    Those links also give the drop rates for each weapon. The musashi is much easier to get. Forest and Dragon are much shorter than temple and barba ray.


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    ((Grind x 2) + Max ATP) x Hits)

    Musashi: 2150
    Double Saber: 1272

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    On 2005-01-19 13:12, Skorpius wrote:
    ((Grind x 2) + Max ATP) x Hits)

    Musashi: 2150
    Double Saber: 1272
    Assuming an unshifta'd character with 385 base ATP (the minimum requirement for musashi and more than the requirement for a double saber) attacks a unzalure'd booma in hard mode online and attacks with a weak-strong-strong combo getting no critical hits, he should do 947 points of damage (weak damage x 1 + heavy damage x 4) with a musashi, and 718 points of damage (weak damage x 2 + heavy damage x 4) with a double saber. So sayeth the damage calculator.

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    Yeah, Musashi owns Double Saber on all parts >_>

    Double Saber in Ult on a HUnewearl = too weak to use.
    Musashi in Ult on a HUnewearl = good, I just did GDV with it, it pwns Gibbons

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    On 2005-01-19 11:53, Kef wrote:
    You said it yourself, Ian, as have many people here, other difficulties than Ultimate are irrelevant, you only stay there 40-60ish hours, then spend all of the time in Ult, so why bother ?

    First couple of characters? Maybe you decided not to rush to Ult? Ooh, hey, here's a good one! BB! You CAN'T rush to Ult on BB. Therefore, yes, guess what? >_>;

    My HUmar sure would have loved to have a Rappy's Fan while he was getting to Ult. You do not start the game with uber rares, or even good rares. Those slicers you named? I've found one, at L145. Not everybody has the time/multiple insanely high-levelled characters to hunt down all these rares you mention.

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    On 2005-01-19 14:37, Ian-KunX wrote:
    Not everybody has the time/multiple insanely high-levelled characters to hunt down all these rares you mention.
    Not to mention, they're rarer then Kef makes them seem to be >_>

    I bet if he had the chance, he would say Guld was a nice, easy drop

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    I would say it was easy, although I probably will
    never see another guld drop again.



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    On 2005-01-19 17:04, SUPAH_CHAO wrote:
    Not to mention, they're rarer then Kef makes them seem to be >_>
    Red Slicer and Flight Fan are NOT rare, not at all.
    And Flight Cutter is pipable -- ok, Ian, not on BB.

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    On 2005-01-19 17:56, Kef wrote:
    Red Slicer and Flight Fan are NOT rare, not at all.
    And Flight Cutter is pipable
    I wasn't thinking >_>;;;

    I was almsot about to say Flight Fan, but then I realised it was the same place as Red Slicer, only Whitill exclusive >_>;;;

    But in general, you like to say things aren't rare. It hurts my accomplishments

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