[Sha Sha]

Allo, Im back and I need some helps.

I got an awesome Idea for a fight scene between two of my characters from different games. My beast Marron From Phantasy Star Universe and my FOmar Marron from Phantasy Star Online.

This is the sketch I have sorta sketched out. I already know there are so many things wrong but its the genreal Idea of the poses i want
Click here for picture careful its 800X800
its sorta based off these pictures i guess since i had those in my mind while i sketched out mine
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Bascially Im hopeing someone could give me some help, do a draw over ANYTHING?
Ref pictures of the charas Ill be drawing:
Fomar Marron
Fomar Marron 2
Fomar Marron
Beast Marron
beast Marron
beast marron

thank you =D

[FOAtHeart]

the poses are dynamic enough, but the energy is sucked out of the picture because it's just a straight on view. have one character closer to the viewer for a much more energetic picture.

if that is too ambitious, perspective wise, just set the idea aside for awhile and complete it properly once you have all the proper tools.

[Sha Sha]

well i guess i can do something like that..
hmm

i suck at perspectives, do you have any tips for it?

[FOAtHeart]

learn the principles of perspective by drawing what you see. just take an item and draw it at many angles, it seems like hard work but the improvement is very tangible.

edit: in this vein if you have the ambition, consider a few weeks of intensive study in realism and observation. the vast improvement very easily translates into your style, though the reverse isn't true; something to consider.

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[Zarbolord]

try doing a mizu area that'll help its got the rocks and such which will add perspective.

[Jey]

When you're doing two equivalent characters (I mean, I'm assuming they're the same guy... same personae, just two different games and two different jobs ) I wouldn't recommend drawing them in perspective, because it looks like you're favoring one over the other.

The symbolic yin-yang posing definately works best with a more-or-less side view imo, although like FOAtHeart mentioned it does look kind of flat. Instead of changing the overall setup of the picture (unless you do want a more realistic field) youl'll want to make your characters' poses more three-dimensional.

The guy on the right is completely lacking in flax, but I'm assuming that's your FO dude But the much more complicated left guy ya might want to try video recording (or just jabbing PrtSc a lot) some acrobatic dagger PA lke Buten/Renkai/Moubu to get a good sense of some energetic flippy poses.

There is also too much space inbetween them. To get a sense of opposing electricity they need to get in each other's faces.

I dunno, it's all minute and hard to say anything in such an elementary phase