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Default 10-29-2007, 02:42 PM

I've been thinking the term god is incorrectly used in the modern world...

A "god" in terms of mythology and almost every religion up until the modern day does not mean omnipotent, creator, or omniscient. There are only 2 things that stand out about every god...

#1 Has some supernatural power over nature.
#2 Part of the supreme ruling (Royalty/Nobility) class in the spiritual world.

Gods are hardly ever responsible for "creating" the world and usually there is a preceding group like in greek/roman myths there are the Titans and in many other mythologies the gods were created of the land and not creators of it. In some others there are beings that are there, but aren't called gods that create the world as well.

So given this, "God" in the modern world really isn't an accurate term for the christian god. The more accurate term is "Chaos", "nothingness", or even a "Titan". And likewise Satan/Lucifer and the other ruling angels are more accurately described as gods.
  
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Default 10-29-2007, 02:50 PM

Well, it also depends on the religion or belief. I know this is going very far out on a limb here, but in The Legend of Zelda it was the goddesses (gods in ALTTP) who created the world. Granted, that is a video game, but still *shruggs*



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Default 10-29-2007, 03:02 PM

#1. that's in modern times.
#2. they didn't create the world the altered it.
  
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Default 10-29-2007, 03:08 PM

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A Link To The Past Instruction Manual Page 3:
The God of Power dyed the mountains red with fire and created land. The God of Wisdom created science and wizardry and brought order to nature. And the God of Courage, through justice and vigor, created life - the animals that crawl on the land and the birds that soar in the sky.
Sounds like creating the world to me.

As for modern times, who gives. Creation is creation, and the creators are the creators. Like I said, it all depends on the religion or belief.



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Default 10-29-2007, 03:18 PM

it matters that it's modern because the term has taken on the attributes of a creator rather than what it originally meant. Terms used in modern times to explain something would be different than they would be previously. For example I wouldn't call Uranus a god, but most would because there are only 2 levels of hierarchy in most peoples' view "god" and "spirit" just about everything is just lumped in those categories so in most situations in modern times a spiritual being that is of some nobility will be called a god.
  
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Default 10-29-2007, 03:40 PM

You can't even begin to touch on this subject because it changes so drastically based on religion/beleif/context.

You're using a very broad stroke to try and make your point, when there's far too many points to be made and evaluated. You're basically using a big enough brush so you don't have to make much of an arguement on your part.


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Default 10-29-2007, 03:59 PM

point out a religion outside of judeo christian where an equivilant term is used for creator or for god that include "omnicient" "omnipresent" and "creator"

None that I know and I know a lot. As far as I know "god" isn't even used in the original text either, but rather "Yahweh" which means I am what I am.
  
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Default 10-29-2007, 04:06 PM

Well that sure is a pious view. You couldn't possibly know EVERY single religion in the world. There are too many.



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Default 10-29-2007, 04:13 PM

Does this even matter?
  
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Default 10-29-2007, 04:34 PM

Did you guys know that God is Dog backwards?

Something to think about, right there.


  
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