[Remius]

Originally Posted by SilverFoxR

Perhaps not, but maybe if enough people make the suggestion to Sega, somehow they may implement it in the future.

PSO2 will not be an offline game. Nothing about it is designed for offline play.


It is no longer the year 2000. That was 12 years ago. People don't make consoles that include 4 controller ports anymore; only an ethernet port. People don't make games with splitscreen multiplayer anymore; they include a network mode. PSO was a 4-player offline experience because back then we gamers actually (GASP) went over friends houses n shit. That was the Dreamcast/Gamecube/Xbox era. Nowadays we slip on a headset and meet them on XBL/PSN.


No offline multiplayer / LAN support is INDEED tragic, but it cannot be helped. Times have changed.



Sega has molded absolutely everything about this game in anticipation of taking advantage of the online market. I can assure you right now -- they have absolutely zero interest in encouraging you to not play on their servers by adding an Offline mode.

[Anon_Fire]

Originally Posted by Remius

PSO2 will not be an offline game. Nothing about it is designed for offline play.


It is no longer the year 2000. That was 12 years ago. People don't make consoles that include 4 controller ports anymore; only an ethernet port. People don't make games with splitscreen multiplayer anymore; they include a network mode. PSO was a 4-player offline experience because back then we gamers actually (GASP) went over friends houses n shit. That was the Dreamcast/Gamecube/Xbox era. Nowadays we slip on a headset and meet them on XBL/PSN.


No offline multiplayer / LAN support is INDEED tragic, but it cannot be helped. Times have changed.

This is excatly what I've been saying too all this time ever since the Alpha2.

[Remius]

It really is sad. My hundreds of hours of PSO gameplay on GCN were all exclusively offline and with buddies. I never even owned a gamecube network adapter.



I can safely say the reason my PSO friends never got into PSU is because we could no longer interact the way we used to. No more sitting on the couch laughing yelling and insulting eachother for hours into the morning anymore...just headsets and keyboards. It's sad.



It's gonna get even more sad when this next generation of absolutely shitty consoles pop up with single account support and no game sharing, and games get even more network exclusive. I can honestly say i have no interest in the coming generation of game consoles. If i wanted to deal with that crap i'd have gone PC exclusive a longggg time ago.

[Ark22]

Originally Posted by Remius

It really is sad. My hundreds of hours of PSO gameplay on GCN were all exclusively offline and with buddies. I never even owned a gamecube network adapter.



I can safely say the reason my PSO friends never got into PSU is because we could no longer interact the way we used to. No more sitting on the couch laughing yelling and insulting eachother for hours into the morning anymore...just headsets and keyboards. It's sad.



It's gonna get even more sad when this next generation of absolutely shitty consoles pop up with single account support and no game sharing, and games get even more network exclusive. I can honestly say i have no interest in the coming generation of game consoles. If i wanted to deal with that crap i'd have gone PC exclusive a longggg time ago.

Get the WII-U....DONE

[kyuuketsuki]

Originally Posted by Remius

PSO2 will not be an offline game. Nothing about it is designed for offline play.

While I'm not disagreeing that PSO2 will not be an offline game, I fail to see any reason why it couldn't be played offline if they felt like throwing an offline mode in.

It is no longer the year 2000.

Yeah, it's not. That's why this devolution of removing useful features that older titles had in the name of "progress" is so absurd. But whatever.

People don't make consoles that include 4 controller ports anymore; only an ethernet port.

Umm... every console out supports 4 controllers. My PS3 has 4 usb ports, but having a ton of ports is becoming redundant when most people are using wireless controllers.

People don't make games with splitscreen multiplayer anymore; they include a network mode.

It's becoming less popular, but they still exist. Hell, even Xbox Live's premier titles, the Halo series, had splitscreen. And the most fun I had with those games was always splitscreening with my friends. It's about them wanting to force people to buy more copies, instead of your friends getting to play multiplayer for "free". Has everything to do with scumbags in suits who run the publishing companies, nothing to do with progress or innovation.

Nowadays we slip on a headset and meet them on XBL/PSN.

Not me, but admittedly I'm probably in the minority nowadays.

No offline multiplayer / LAN support is INDEED tragic, but it cannot be helped. Times have changed.

You're right, unfortunately. *wistful sigh*

Edit: Wow, I got ninjaed about 5 times while typing this post out.

[Remius]

Originally Posted by kyuuketsuki

While I'm not disagreeing that PSO2 will not be an offline game, I fail to see any reason why it couldn't be played offline if they felt like throwing an offline mode in.

They wont do it because it goes against what they're trying to do in the first place, which is get paid. If they WERE to make an Offline mode, it'd probably be like PSU's offline mode -- deliberately garbage, so you'd just be more encouraged to play Online. A mode like PSO's though, I cant see happening. Why would they make a F2P game and give you a full offline-multiplayer experience where they can no longer pressure you to spend money?

Yeah, it's not. That's why this devolution of removing useful features that older titles had in the name of "progress" is so absurd. But whatever.

I agree, the removal of splitscreen multiplayer has seen alot of excuses. I think the most logical reason these days is that it takes up alot of horsepower, but nobody really cares. Halo and Gears of War, the two games that i probably enjoyed Splitscreening more than i did Netplaying. Hardest mode + co-op = hours of fun and blaming eachother for shit.

Umm... every console out supports 4 controllers. My PS3 has 4 usb ports, but having a ton of ports is becoming redundant when most people are using wireless controllers.

Of course they do. In fact, the Playstation 3 supports seven controllers.




Point is, nobody cares. If your Xbox or PS3 didn't support 4 controllers, what would you really be missing out on? Seriously? Halo is about the only FPS i know with a competent 4-player co-op campaign. But the amount of games you can play (FPS or not) that support 4-player splitscreen is terribly low this generation. Now, rewind the clock a bit and remove 2 of the controller slots from your N64 / Dreamcast / Gamecube / Xbox. If your younger years were anything like mine it'll be like removing one of your balls.

It's becoming less popular, but they still exist. Hell, even Xbox Live's premier titles, the Halo series, had splitscreen. And the most fun I had with those games was always splitscreening with my friends. It's about them wanting to force people to buy more copies, instead of your friends getting to play multiplayer for "free". Has everything to do with scumbags in suits who run the publishing companies, nothing to do with progress or innovation.

People don't care about splitscreen multiplayer anymore because that shit doesn't sell games anymore. Network modes do. Videogames stopped being about "fun" and "innovation" a long, long time ago. I think this generation has killed more game series and companies than any in existence thus far.

[BIG OLAF]

There are people that still like splitscreen multiplayer, and wish it was still relevant? What the hell is going on here.

[Remius]

Originally Posted by BIG OLAF

There are people that still like splitscreen multiplayer, and wish it was still relevant? What the hell is going on here.

....get out of here.

[Xenobia]

Just to make sure, what they want to get paid for is a developed game, and they have been paid by the initial purchase. They are free to sell endless addons, as long as the price does reflect the work on it. Usualy all they did is to release content already on the disc, not to develop completly new content. If the whole matter of not offering a offline mode anymore is only been motivated because of theyr (decreased) economics its rather pitiful. Stuff like that however, only provide a short time gain but in long time term its a loss.