[Setsuna00G]

Originally Posted by shiink

@Setsuna00G



I think this is what r00tabaga was referring to in regards to the updating issues with the Vita version of PSO2. Essentially SEGA will have full reign when it comes to issuing updates and will not suffer the same issues that SEGA has with Microsoft on PSU.

Oh lol, I read every post wondering what r00tabaga was talking about. I'm fully aware of that, just because updates are not tested does not eliminate the fact it is going to cost SEGA additional money, SEGA has to schedule updates in advance and have the updates approved by Sony.

Not testing updates and full control over updates are two different things, the process is there for a reason and SEGA will still have to follow the rules period. I've seen Capcom issue out a unscheduled patch in a week on the Xbox 360, so is really just the testing that crippled PSU?

@9898

Oh yes they do care. Money don't grow on trees, SEGA is sinking a lot of money in this project and they want it all back and then some.

[9898]

Originally Posted by Setsuna00G

Oh lol, I read every post wondering what r00tabaga was talking about. I'm fully aware of that, just because updates are not tested does not eliminate the fact it is going to cost SEGA additional money, SEGA has to schedule updates in advance and have the updates approved by Sony.

Not testing updates and full control over updates are two different things, the process is there for a reason and SEGA will still have to follow the rules period. I've seen Capcom issue out a unscheduled patch in a week on the Xbox 360, so is really just the testing that crippled PSU?

@9898

Oh yes they do care. Money don't grow on trees, SEGA is sinking a lot of money in this project and they want it all back and then some.

i implied they didn't give a shit about what people think if you read my post more carefully. the entire reason for vita release is money lol

[Cranberry]

I agree with 9898 on this one. But I still don't get why Sega chose the Vita. I'm not opposed to PSO2 being on a console, in fact I've wanted to see it on one. But Vita... that's like the worst possiblel choice Sega could have made for PSO2. I can't think of a worse console to put it on than Vita.

[Spellbinder]

Sakai's reasoning was that putting it on a console such as the PS3 would be redundant when a user already has another console (the computer) at home. With a portable system (Vita) however, you could not only play it at home if you choose to buy the PC version, but could also take the game with you when you go out allowing you to enjoy the game in and outside the home.

[•Col•]

Originally Posted by Spellbinder

Sakai's reasoning was that putting it on a console such as the PS3 would be redundant when a user already has another console (the computer) at home. With a portable system (Vita) however, you could not only play it at home if you choose to buy the PC version, but could also take the game with you when you go out allowing you to enjoy the game in and outside the home.

Not only that, but there's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge market in Japan for Portable online RPGs....

Just look at what Monster Hunter did for 3DS sales.

[Setsuna00G]

Originally Posted by 9898

i implied they didn't give a shit about what people think if you read my post more carefully. the entire reason for vita release is money lol

Who buys the games monkeys? Lol. I read your post, all of your post. I know SEGA has hurt all of us in the past, but that does not mean they don't care. Sakai just has been nothing short of amazing with how he lets the community get involved in the development process of the game. How many gaming communities can say that? Very few. SEGA has a heart and cares what their consumers think, despite what you believe.

[•Col•]

Originally Posted by Setsuna00G

Who buys the games monkeys? Lol. I read your post, all of your post. I know SEGA has hurt all of us in the past, but that does not mean they don't care. Sakai just has been nothing short of amazing with how he lets the community get involved in the development process of the game. How many gaming communities can say that? Very few. SEGA has a heart and cares what their consumers think, despite what you believe.

Sakai may care...

SEGA does not.

I mean, they're a a large corporation, so it's kinda hard to care... Realistically, they knowingly screw people over all the time for money. It's just natural. Saying "SEGA has a heart" is just silly, lol.

[Setsuna00G]

Originally Posted by Colaya

Sakai may care...

SEGA does not.

I mean, they're a a large corporation, so it's kinda hard to care... Realistically, they knowingly screw people over all the time for money. It's just natural. Saying "SEGA has a heart" is just silly, lol.

Sakai is not alone, he has a team and a company that supports him, he can not do it alone, but I also understand where you are coming from. There is not even a release date yet, makes me wonder does Sakai even have a deadline. It is as if SEGA let him have full control over the project, if so that is super cool.

[failstrom]

Originally Posted by SilverFoxR

You realize the Vita is almost on par with the Playstation 3 (in some cases stronger) and ultimately would have similar if not better specs than the standard PC version would allow, right?

I'm sorry I really don't think you understand that part.

The clock speed on the PSV caps at about 2.0ghz vs PS3's 3.1
The PS3 has just as much RAM, along with dedicated graphics (of course) The Vita's graphics are on par with the ipad and use the same technology. (serious)
The resolution on the vita is limited to 960 × 544 which is about half what the PS3 can pull
The memory supported on a PS3 is over 300 gigs, or 10x the current largest flash card for Vita
I honestly don't know how big the games are but something tells me they aren't 50 gig dual layer bluray discs.

So any way in which way is it stronger you're hiding?

Originally Posted by 9898

after this forum being around for 11 years you guys should know sega doesn't give a shit, and sony gives more network freedoms than other platforms.

there will be vita and there will be psn.

if there isn't vita it won't be due to a protest.

I personally wouldn't want to remove the vita version, just protect the PC version from leeching off it.

Originally Posted by Colaya

Sakai may care...

SEGA does not.

I'm sad to agree with this.

Originally Posted by Setsuna00G

It is as if SEGA let him have full control over the project, if so that is super cool.

No way that would happen. He has to justify everything he does, he's on their dime.

[Setsuna00G]

@failstrom

Yeah I know and I agree, but we don't have a release date yet and I think he already postponed the first release, i'm not sure.