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Ave Dominus Nox
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Tropes vs. Women in Videogames -
06-15-2012, 06:55 PM
Anita Sarkeesian is a feminist pop culture critic who produces an ongoing web series of video commentaries from a feminist/fangirl perspective at FeministFrequency.com. She uses her web show to explore representations of race, gender, sexuality, class and ability in popular culture.
She is doing a webseries where she will explore, analyze and deconstruct some of the most common tropes and stereotypes of female characters in games. The series will highlight the larger recurring patterns and conventions used within the gaming industry rather than just focusing on the worst offenders.
I honestly don't care at all about feminism and their views and goals however my biggest motivation for wanting to spread her videos and support for her project is because of some of the dumb trolling shit she's been receiving because of her project. Troll the trolls. I mean frankly if you find her message that much of a slight to your mental processes then just ignore her. No need to make the vicious attacks that they have been doing on her.
Anyway, check it out and give her the support if your interested. At the very least, she's easy on the eyes.
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/...in-video-games
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Big. Beautiful. Blue.™
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06-15-2012, 07:02 PM
I, personally, am not into all that bullshit when it comes to 'feminism', or any other 'sect' that's fights for right(s) that the group in question already has. It more or less just becomes an attempted power-grab, or whining for attention when you get to the core of it all.
But, trolling and/or being unpleasant with someone because you disagree with them is uncalled for. However, this is the internet, and that being said, people going above and beyond the call of duty to be vile wretches to others isn't unheard of.
So, I won't be donating (even though it makes little difference considering she's already exploded past her mark).
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The Monster
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06-15-2012, 07:03 PM
When writing I try to keep a balance between my race and genders and their roles.
Then sometimes I feel like I failed anyway.
In pop culture they just outright do it on purpose. D:
She's screwed. D:

I surround myself with nillas whose only concern is profit. So if you ain't speaking meseta then you speakin' off-topic, nilla stop-it.
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06-15-2012, 09:33 PM
As the parent of a teenaged girl, I've had to reckon with this a little bit. Mainly, I call the bullshit as I see it, so she's known for a long time how women can be manipulated in terms of things like gender role or body image. She also knows it is by no means limited to the subjugation of women.
There have been a couple of occasions where she wants this game or that manga and I've had to tell her to buy it on her own time with her own money if she wants it that badly. I cannot be the sponsor of that sort of content.
For all the stereotyping and whatnot that goes on, it doesn't seem to have affected her too much; her favorite game is Yume Nikki.

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The Monster
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06-15-2012, 10:16 PM
Off-Topic...
People are making kickstarters for EVERYTHING.

I surround myself with nillas whose only concern is profit. So if you ain't speaking meseta then you speakin' off-topic, nilla stop-it.
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Paper Crown
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06-16-2012, 01:23 AM
The people trolling her are some lowly scum, I've seen a few of her videos and they do make some pretty valid points (Hunger Games white-washing, straw feminist trope, toy ads, etc) but this is the internet and that's what happens when people with too much time on their hands.
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06-16-2012, 05:34 AM
She raised so much money she is doing stuff about how women get treated in online games as well now.That set of videos is going to be depressingly easy to write for.
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☀ Beach Bum
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06-16-2012, 08:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leviathan
The people trolling her are some lowly scum, I've seen a few of her videos and they do make some pretty valid points (Hunger Games white-washing, straw feminist trope, toy ads, etc) but this is the internet and that's what happens when people with too much time on their hands.
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Pretty much this. As for her videos themselves, all I have to say is it's what happens when the target audience for many games/movies are predominantly male, and we haven't entirely shaken off the old patriarchal mindset in many countries.
True feminists just want equality, don't let the extremists give it a bad name.
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06-17-2012, 02:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CelestialBlade
True feminists just want equality, don't let the extremists give it a bad name.
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I've always understood it this way, that it's about equality rather than taking the reigns.
But I've also always wondered why, if they strive for equality, do they stick with a name whose structure and terminology implies that they want to be in power? You know, instead of something like "equalism."
I mean, having some movement called "feminism" implies that what it's going against is "masculism," and therefore the perception that men are empowered and women are not... Meaning the ultimate goal would be implied to have the tables turned, rather than the ideal of making everyone equal.
This is also related to why I have a problem with outspoken feminists or other supposedly-equality-seeking groups: They assume that because I am an apparently-white, straight male that I am somehow out to subjugate them and sabotage their cause... Because I'm saying we should be on equal grounds, instead of telling them that others are superior to me while mid-kowtow.

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06-17-2012, 03:42 PM
If you want to cover gender issues, there's going to be something for ableism, too. That's my two cents on it. If girls get to make up a show about being abused, so should the people who are disabled, and it'd be a lot easier to do then.
I just dislike hearing about these since I actually am disabled and have dealt with some crap at the hand of, well, the extremists.
I can name on such extremist on the forum. :v
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