[RuneScapeMan]

Even if you're using a turbo controller, and leaving your gamecube on while watching TV and other stuff, you're not cheating.
You're just being bored to death instead of playing online with friends.
And you all gotta admit that Exp stealing S-Rank Mechguns aren't hacked.
But the whole reason why people say that this is cheating is because you gain levels faster... So what?
Why should you care, and besides.
To hit level 200 is just a goal for some people, it's not like "Yeah! I reached level 200! Now I finally completed the game!".
My goal in completing this game is to maybe, Beating all quests and bosses in Ultimate, finding all Force/Ranger/Hunter rare weapons etc.
And some people want to reach level 200 by having fun, and some are just playing 20 hours a day trying to get 3 million exp everyday or something.
I did play 12 hours a day doing solo HS as my RAcast until he corrupted.
That's fun, isn't it?

You're able to gain levels in this game so you can beat stronger enemies etc.
But some people just want levels...
Most people just want to beat the final boss or collect everything in Final Fantasy right?
But some people want to make all their characters perfect.
Same with pso, reaching level 200 is a goal for some people while I just want to play online having a really good time.
But other people who don't want to do the exp trick play just to reach a high level and those people will get bored after a short while...

[Micah]

tricks like that are harmless exploits. and hell, if you want to spend countless boring hours piping up and down be my guest. but its more fun to actualy do quest/area runs since its not so repetitive. its basicly the same as doing runs. maybe a little more exp, but at a cost to your honor. but if you want the fact you did lame things to reach lvl 200 on your soul. thats your choice. not mine.

[BonusKun]

You're just being bored to death instead of playing online with friends.

This is a good post but one thing I'll say which makes more or less what Aurra said. Those people who did this exploit are not true level 200s.

They didn't take the time, energy, or patience to work on their character through the rigers of the game and just literally exploited another way to get what they wanted with less work.

The rule of thumb of it not being cheating in reference to this thread could be said that even tho they are not cheating as you say, they are however cheating themselves....

[Oedi]

Hmm, so would the CC exploit or the Canabine ring exploits fit under the same category?

I personally don't see any harm in using these exploits to gain levels.

PSO is not a beauty contest!

[Sparkoma]

ahh good point and u really dont get lvlz faster it takes a long time if ur not on ult and if u used power mats u cant do it because u will kill them so its a trick that only some can do and if u wana put up the money for a oneu should do it and its not hurting any one at all just you not playing online.

[bordering]

like i've said before it's not technically cheating but it is super cheap. i don't understand WHY you would want to do that with a normal character?

the only time when i feel that it is ENTIRELY justified is when it is used to recover from corruption. tell me, snk, aurra, others who feel that way, will my RAmarl not be considered "true" when she hits level 200? i used the recobox trick to RECOVER her from an FSOD X i had. now that she is back at the same level she was at before, i have discarded the duped s rank mech i used to remake her. i intend to go on playing her as though she never corrupted, NOT making any further use of this trick.

i don't see how anyone could possibly say that that's not 100% justified. unless they're a jackass and just want to be sarcastic for the hell of it.

having personally used this trick, i have a firsthand experience of how damn cheap it is. i got my new RAmarl to offline ult seabed at level 64. she nearly doubled her level in one night of using this trick... if you are using this trick on a char class that you've never played before, you are not only cheating in terms of acheiving something you shouldn't, you are cheating yourself out of the experience of watching a char grow and learning the subtle intricicies of playing that class.

oh well, really. i play mainly in locked games with freinds i trust. doesn't affect me all that much.

[Skankhair]

Are you playing the game? No.

Are you getting EXP? Yes.

Cheat.

You are using a gameplay parameter in a way is wasn't meant to be used (i.e. an exploit) to gain an advantage. That's a cheat.

[bordering]

On 2003-07-21 22:03, Skankhair wrote:
Are you playing the game? No.

Are you getting EXP? Yes.

Cheat.

You are using a gameplay parameter in a way is wasn't meant to be used (i.e. an exploit) to gain an advantage. That's a cheat.

may you corrupt over and over again. it's not CHEATING to recover lost levels that you were CHEATED out of in the first place.

why should i be forced to manually re raise a character that i lost due to no fault of my own after having played her pure legit for 600 some hours? jackass...

[Skankhair]

It's still cheating.

Is it wrong? I don't think so. Is it cheating? Yes.

If you hacked and duped all of your lost items, it would still be cheating. Just as EXP tricks are still cheating, even if your original levels were "legit".

Don't call me a jackass just because you can't accept reality.

If Sammy Sosa corked his bat (cheating), it wouldn't be any less of a "cheat" for someone on the other team to even the odds by corking his bat. You may have been "cheated" out of your levels, but cheating to get them back is still cheating. Sorry. You lose.



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Skankhair on 2003-07-21 23:32 ]</font>

[bordering]

whatever, dickhead. you're obviously just trying to start a flamewar and i'm not biting. i didn't get any of my items back save the ones that were IDENTICAL to the ones i lost [units mainly].

and recreating my 158 in no way devalues it. i did it legitly the first time. i'm not fucking saint that's gonna wear a hair shirt and beat myself with a cat'o'nine-tails just to maintain some fucking sense of piety.

like i said, i hope you corrupt over and over again. i hope also that you have major medical problems and then don't "cheat" by seeking medical assistance for them, let nature run its course eh? fuck you.