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Default 11-04-2003, 01:23 PM

If you ask me, it doesn't really matter if it's cheating or not, it's simply for the appearance. If they get a non-system mag with 195 in one stat, would it really matter? They sacrificed the PBs for it, like they would with a system mag, so I don't see any big deal there. Then with the other mags, a lot of the normal mags give the same sort of bonuses that these cell mags gives. It's just nice to have it so the mag doesn't change everytime you feed it, which is the main reason I make special mags instead of the normal ones. Also, the chao mag isn't worth too much as an actual mag since they've added mat limits. Doing this, will bring about some more value to them.
  
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Default 11-04-2003, 03:31 PM

But whats the good value of a 195 or mag with stats around that area? I mean your leaveing off the other stats so it isent going to help you out in anyway thats worth having. 195 pow=390 ATP..woohoo, to bad my ata is to low or my dfp sucks so much that I get beat down by everything to use my marvilious ATP.

As for help, try being friendly and always give back up, even if your not a force. cast jellen, zalure and anti whena friends in need. try keeping things at bay with a constant spell casting or maybe a multiple target hitting weapon, this makes it easy for your team mates to beat them down without being in danger.
  
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Default 11-04-2003, 06:14 PM

Ok let me rephrase that.... It's cheap. But funny how people are constantly rationalizing exploits in PSO in order to make themselves feel like they aren't being cheated.

As far as I'm concerned, if ST didn't intend for it to happen, it's cheating. Stop trying to make yourselves feel better by telling yourself it's ok.

And by the way, how in the hell is the shop dupe exploit or multi-equip not cheating? I can't imagine WTF someone would need to be on to say something so ludicrous.
  
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Default 11-04-2003, 06:25 PM

It's that cheap to just change the appearance of a MAG, without affecting its properties at all... ooookay, remind me to NOT transfer a non-rare MAG from my HU to my RA, or else it'll evolve again when I feed it!
  
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Default 11-04-2003, 09:36 PM

Don't get your reward for Fake in Yellow quest and just keep it open. Ultimate you get experince and mats without alot of effort, that is if you want to level without a ton of effort. (force)
  
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Default 11-05-2003, 12:09 AM

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On 2003-11-04 10:31, Zarana wrote:
1. It doesn't work offline.

2. I assume it does work on Xbox.

3. You'd have to be some kind of legit Nazi zealot to even care if people do it. I mean, none of the Mags they're making are even good or offer any sort of advantage in the slightest bit. If you care that much about the way a person's Mag looks, when it's not affecting you in any way whatsoever from a gameplay standpoint, you're taking this "legit" shtick a little to far.

"Oh no, this person's Chao doesn't have 35 in all three stats, I better leave the game and report them to Sega!"

*snickers*
Thanks for the info Zarana! The main reason I wanted to know is not because I wanted a single stat mag (I would never be that cruel to any of my characters), but as a slightly faster way to get to a chao mag so that I could subsequently combine it with my branch of Paku Paku to get the Striker of Chao. I already had both items, the cell and the branch, so I was prepared to do it the long way, but seeing as how raising a mag takes along time, especially when it needs 35 Def, I wasn't really looking forward to that. I guess it doesn't matter though, since I would only have done it if it could be done offline!

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Rogue100 on 2003-11-04 22:10 ]</font>
  
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Default 11-05-2003, 12:00 PM

What are you guys doing?? The Topic is for sharing tips, NOT arguing about cheating and whatnots. Pardon me for letting out my rage.
  
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Default 11-05-2003, 03:36 PM

this whole arugument about cheating is bs stop being a whiny pansy things like this happen to all games, theres always gonna be a glitch or atleast 1 thing wrong that you could take advantage of..............

anyways trunkszero tip #2 use as much rsist/dark, evils, devils as possible when going through caves or temple in ultimate mode

#3 if you have a hunter(with an extra mad) and force character....
try building up the mads mst, def, and atp with the hunter and give it to the force to give the force a nice advantage while adventuring
  
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Default 11-06-2003, 04:33 AM

With Ultimate Dark Faltz third form (the one that uses rafoie or rabarta immediately followed by daravants) its easier to cast lvl 25 - 30 gifoie (for a force) twice to take them out. So long as the combined damage of your two gifoies is over 300. If its not. dont worry about it, eventually it will be, just do your best to avoid it.

It helps out everyone inside of the gifoie ring. extremely helpful, even more so with two forces. The only thing you need to worry about is surviving the initial rafoie/rabarta.
  
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Default 11-06-2003, 04:40 AM

Ah one more tip since I'm awake. Making ultimate mode deldepths more killable. *stunning*

Have a force (or anyone with low ata/atp) equip a mechgun type weapon. When confronted with the Deldepth just have them use the strong attack on the deldepth, it will miss but it also keeps them from shooting megid or throwing the freeze bomb. Just keep attacking them until the stronger characters take them out. While you are holding them still thier attacks will register but the deldepth wont go flying around all over the place.

A team of forces would have even more fun. Have two of them *stunning* the deldepth while the others megid them for fun.
  
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