[Ratsmack]

Turns out PSO hasn't been shot to shit by cheaters quite yet! I recently started two new chars, a FOnewm and a HUcast, and both times I started a low-level game a high-level came in and offered to help. They would let me take a swing at the enemies, then blast them to hell...or wherever the monsters go after melting into a puddle of green goo. Not only this, but they'd wait for me to grab all the goodies and make me a telepipe whenever I needed it. Yes, I know that sounds like not doing it myself, but it's not like I let them raise me to level 20 or something. Either way, it was very nice of them, and I offered one of them a free club of laconium if I found them when I went on my higher level char. People like that make me feel all warm and squisy inside...err...let's just pretend that didn't sound as queer as it does. Anyways, there may be a bunch of mean ol' cheaters, but there's still a bunch of nice players who will happily spend their game time helping out low levels.

[Ambrai]

Well as you know my sig says it all. Lv 32 is my highest char, so in my mind i am still a n00bie. Well 2 unnamed (dont want em to get spam telled) very kind people saw my requests to buy a double sabre. One emailed me saying that I can have it because its not about phat l33t (so true). So I was in a game the night we were to meet. Someone comes in, not the right name tho, and pulls me aside and says here! Take this Doublesabre. I was like, wow thanks! I thought it was the first person, but not until today did I relize there were 2 seperate people who were willing to give me a double sabre.

Dont give up on our community, we have some great people here!!

[Danger_Girl]

Sorry about that Ambrai, I was the one supposed to meet you. I should have been more specific about the place, I just said Puck servers. I looked for you, but....no luck. Anyway, someone beat me to it

For one I enjoy helping lower levels. It's kind of relaxing after a tuff days work in the ruins on v-hard. Plus I like showing off in front of newbies Hahahaha...just kidding. I'll be on Puck 9 see you there!

[segagameplay]

it is all about the money... im at almost 950000 meseta hoping to get a million

[The_Neon_Samurai]

To Ambrai and Ratsmack:

Weren't you guys complaining about cheaters around here before? Don't you realize that what you do is nothing short of cheating yourselves? Whats the difference between receiving a Double Saber through a gameshark or as a gift from another player? You didn't earn it in either case. Same with the levels. If you just stand around taking single shots at monsters and then let some high levels do all the dirty work, did you earn those levels? I don't think so. You really have a strange sort of double moral going on there. And yes, when it comes to the levels I see the difference between jumping from 0-100 in a flash or just getting like 20 a little faster, but at the core it's still cheating. When it comes to the saber, I see no difference at all. In both cases you receive it out of thin air, without having earned it. I couldn't enjoy fighting with a whored Double Saber and I sure as hell wouldn't be proud of it. Funny though, that it was exactly you, Ambrai, who bitched about people gamesharking special weapons around here not too long ago. Oh and please don't take this as a personal insult, I'm just trying to make a point here.

[Ambrai]

No instult taken. I am highly against people creating weapons (if it is even proven that this can be done). The people you just insulted were the ones kind enough to pass their items along.

I have no problems accepting gear I CaWU from trusted sources. I, and probally many others will agree on me that none of the aforementioned is cheating in any sense of the word.

On high lv's helping lower lvs out, well I have 'earned' every lv I have, I am about 28 hours played on a lv 31 char (I talk too much). I also see no problem with helping lower lvs out, its a feature of the game that allows this.

I also mean no offence to you friend, but usualy the people who have issues with the aforementioned topics are the ones who feel slighted because noone has ever done anything kind for them. I don't blame them for feeling that way, just don't call others cheaters.

[CpuProfessor]

Gamesharking is different from giving items and/or trading. Part of the reason behind different section ID's was to inspire cooperation between players. Giving items (that you don't use) away is better than sending them to digital oblivion by selling them to a shop owner. Handing out items especially when done discreetly is nothing short of comeradie and good sportmanship.
GS'ing on the other hand is nothing short of single-minded indifference to the basic principles of gamers online. It's the equivalent of stealing from the candystore when you have money in your pocket.
So, yes we do flame cheaters, but high-levels' making low-levels' lives easier, we applaud!

[50volts]

I strongly agree with cpu above. If you want to build a strong community you have to help eachother out. Not only does it mix up the more rare weapons among people (especially since they are found Pokemon style), but it also is a darn nice thing to do.

[The_Neon_Samurai]

On 2001-02-20 06:44, Ambrai wrote:
I also mean no offence to you friend, but usualy the people who have issues with the aforementioned topics are the ones who feel slighted because noone has ever done anything kind for them. I don't blame them for feeling that way, just don't call others cheaters.[addsig]

Let me tell you a little story:

Some days ago, I played pso with two other, relative high lv, players. when we returned to town, after finishing a dungeon, one of them said something about really needing a monogrinder. So, since it was fun playing with them, I thought: fuck it, I have about 30 of them in the bank anyway, dropped one in front of the bank, told him it was there for him and went to the shop. After getting it the two (who seemed to know each other) called me out to bank and dropped down some stuff. Like, two rare weapons, a mag and some sort of cool Palasch. I took the Palasch, but the other stuff I left alone. Maybe I'm just letting my personal principles get the better of me, but personally, I just want to earn my own stuff, I just don't feel satisfied otherwise. I usually play with the same people I know from a certain message board and when we're in a dungeon and someone finds a normal weapon someone else can use, of course we give it to him, or even keep stuff we find playing on our own and give it to each other when we meet up next. What I'm talking about here is just walking up to strangers and asking them for "rare" rare weapons that you'll probably never meet again anyway. I know that if offered rare weapons to some of the people I play with, they would actually feel bad about it, like they were dependant on handouts or something. Just receiving a rare item from someone can never give you the same satisfaction or joy compared to finding it yourself in the ruins after defeating 4 Delsabers in hard mode just barely. A weapon obtained in that way, you can wield on the battlefield with pride.

As for leveling up newbies, when I did this yesterday with someone else, we actually came to the conclusion that it's a bad idea. Because if 2 lv 50 Characters kill off everything for them, they don't learn how to fight properly. They don't see the importance of healing, they don't know learn how to move on the battlefield, because they feel to secure. So basicly when you train newbies, teach them how to combo, tell them how to play their role best, teach them about enemy patterns and how to move, but let them fight their own fights. Else they will never learn to stand on their own. Give a man a fish and you will feed him for one day, teach him how to fish and you will feed him for the rest of his life.
This whole community thing is great, just keep things real, peace.


I was programmed according to the code of Bushido.
Better to die with honour, than to live in shame.

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[The_Neon_Samurai]

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