[Dice788]

which would be easier to obtain? which is better? i have 16 photon drops as of right now. i have a redria in hard Caves.

[Aredhel]

Great question, but only because there is no definite answer. Double Cannon is an excellent weapon, as is BKB (especially when fully ground *drool*), but you can only attain Black King Bar online by gambling your PDs. Double Cannon is somewhat easier (hehe, I'll burn for that last stement ) only because the ingredients it requires are fully pipeable; get a Redria and an Oran on Ultimate and you're pretty much good to go for mere piping. Ultimately, go for them both - you'll get some great characters and some ultimate (legit) melee weapons for all your hard work.

[Quo]

Because the Double Cannon is ungrindable, BKB has the potential to be stronger in sheer ATP. The Double Cannon does, however have BKB beat in the ATA department. Also, Double Cannon gets a greater shifta boost than the BKB. Which is better? There is no answer to that question.

As Aredhel said, both components of the Double Cannon are pipable offline. However the drop rates are both 1/22, and calling out the rare monsters can be a royal pain in the arse (trust me, I speak from experience). MKB, the only component of the BKB that should give you any trouble, can be moderately difficult to find as well, but not nearly as bad as a Lavis Cannon.

[Dice788]

i think im going to look for the Monkey King Bar first since i already have a skyly in ult (1/394 chance from Mericarol) and i have a friend that has a redria RAmar that might be able to do seabed or do TTF for lavis cannon. im just going to play it out and see how the online hunting goes. if anyone wants to play with me, just look for the Black HUcast that goes by |).|.<.E.

[Eihwaz]

BKB is made from a 10-star rare, and an item you can buy for PDs. It is the strongest Double Saber in the game. The MKB is not too incredibly rare, but some people *coughIancough* have had a terrible time getting one.

Double Cannon is made from a 11-Star Rare, and 2 Syncestas, both of which can be pipeable from the right IDs (Both have a 1/22 drop rate from the appropriate rare enemy). It is weaker than BKB, but has 2 more ATA (big whoop, heh).

Personally, I'd go with Double Cannon, simply becuase it looks so cool. Most people won't believe that your BKB is legit, and will thusly be a loud asshole about it...

...of course, no one is going to believe your Double Cannon is legit either. XD

Teh spinny. n_n

EDIT: I are stupid!

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[Firocket1690]

Basically, wazzy meant You need two systeca thingimabobs for it.

That, and people will believe you got a legit double cannon, but you can't get a legit bkb.



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[SpyroDi]

I like the Double Cannon better,because it looks more funky.

[Gjl]

BKB = ugly, common and bland looking. That's all you need to hear. Get a Double Cannon I say .

[KaFKa]

double cannons are (in my not-so-humble opinion) the better weapon. having seen a hacked BKB in action, i was able to keep up with a n00bmar using a hacked BKB with lavis BLADES. thats right, i was able to keep up with a BKB with a seemingly inferior weapon.

the reason why? it is a ranged weapon as well. that little special button has a use. those beams are seriously useful when you can hit them from a (little bit less?) handgun's range. oh noes, you lose something like 1/12th of your hp when you use it, nothing a quick mate or resta cant fix. (especially when you're in ult resta shielding.)

[Eihwaz]

On 2004-07-22 03:12, KaFKa wrote:
double cannons are (in my not-so-humble opinion) the better weapon. having seen a hacked BKB in action, i was able to keep up with a n00bmar using a hacked BKB with lavis BLADES. thats right, i was able to keep up with a BKB with a seemingly inferior weapon.

The fact that daggers are much faster than Double Sabers MIGHT have something to do with that.

But yes, Double Cannons are IMO better. Simply becuase they're cooler.