i hate pal rappys

[zero_kokojan]

i can never get my sword i'm a pinkale i killed 64 pal rappys and still havent got my prize...why?

[Undeadpriest]

Maybe your just unlucky if i'm not wrong i think the drop rate is 1/22 its a pretty high when it comes to rare enemy.Its not like me where a Pal rappy is dropping an Hero/ability 1/2.I'm still hunting for this.I never killed a single Pal rappy.But i only get to Ultimate today.


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[zero_kokojan]

its a 1/22 but god hates me

[Undeadpriest]

Well like i said 1/22 is a pretty high drop rate for a rare enemy and don't forget its the real agito if you do a quest you can change it into an orotiagito that's why its rare that you can find it.

[Xeno-Windgust]

Makes me think about FallenAngelV, who had to kill exactly 99 Redria Hildetorrs to get a Magic Stone "Iritista". I certainly hope that the same thing doesn't happen for you, but luckily, Pal Rappys are a LOT more... common... than Hildetorrs.

1/22 isn't so bad. It's a matter of dedication, sure, but it could be worse^^

[Drakorn]

Lucky you, i cant find a pal rappy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_mad.gif

[Out_Kast]

Just keep trying. They're the 3 keywords for PSO http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif
Just keep telling yourself 'the next one'. 'The next one'. 'The next one'.

[Drakorn]

why not say PSO, In my opinion PSO can also mean Please Showup Orotiagito http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Undeadpriest]

lol i never though about this one Drakorn.

[Out_Kast]

Or Phantasy Star Offline... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_disapprove.gif
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[Drakorn]

To be more effectively on rare drops add synchro up to 120% - i seen a few people saying that synchro puts up chances of rare drops but i dunno, to me i dont care if its either a red box just care if its something i like

[Undeadpriest]

Same for me thats why i started a Skyly i really like sword weapon so i will start leveling my Skyly.

[Xeno-Windgust]

On 2006-12-31 14:47, Drakorn wrote:
To be more effectively on rare drops add synchro up to 120% - i seen a few people saying that synchro puts up chances of rare drops but i dunno, to me i dont care if its either a red box just care if its something i like

Doesn't work. Synchro is for some MAG abilities to trigger and to determine how fast your PB gauge will fill up (please correct me on this. I may be awfully wrong).

Drops remain the same, as far as I know -_-. See the drop charts to find them.

[otana_uk]

Nothing you can do will affect the drop rates. You just have to stick at it.

[Splash]

The rumors that there is something that will improve the drop rates are all stupid, not to mention a bunch of lies. NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, will improve the drop rates.

As for the Agito dropping, the actual dropping is 1/22. The probability that you will see a Pal Rappy AND have it drop one is:

1/512 * 1/22 = 1/11,264

Essentially, you are just having bad luck.

[DETHCLAN]

What is the probbility that me as a skyly will get the agito?

[DoubleJG]

Remember, for each Pal Rappy you kill, a dice is rolled. Only one of those 22 sides has the Agito on it. You could kill 100 Rappies and still no Agito.

[Drakorn]

Or maybe 200 rappies - its the way the luck is. (I still cant find Pal Rappies)

[Kevino]

On 2006-12-31 00:02, zero_kokojan wrote:
its a 1/22 but god hates me



yep and your mom does too... jk

[Bezmor]

On 2007-01-01 11:27, Splash wrote:
The rumors that there is something that will improve the drop rates are all stupid, not to mention a bunch of lies. NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, will improve the drop rates.

As for the Agito dropping, the actual dropping is 1/22. The probability that you will see a Pal Rappy AND have it drop one is:

1/512 * 1/22 = 1/11,264

Essentially, you are just having bad luck.



I think AR will but because we are legit. . . .we hunt. . . and we keep hunting. . . and .. you get the point. . . Good luck it will drop sooner or later. (later more likly than sooner. . .)

[Kevino]

yes you just have bad luck you just need to kill like heck alot... alot alot.

[Xeno-Windgust]

I can gladly add my contribution to this thread now!

I have even more FAT Pal Rappies, who have a 1/512 * 1/64 chance of appearing only! Multiply again by 1/22 for the drop -_-

Just the fat Pal appearance is rarer than getting a regular Pal + Agito.

1/512 * 1/64 < 1/512 * 1/22

I've seen 2 fat pals now already on 9 Pal Rappies. I have cursed good luck, it seems.

[Tweengo]

I hate Pal Rappies too. I got my Pinkal Hucast to Ult, thought 'hmm, 1/22 drop for the Real Agito huh. No probs'. Did FIY without completing it over and over. Got (insert extremely offensive obscene to-the-point profanity here....or to those with 1 IQ, a really naughty swear word), so I completed FIY in frustration....man wish I didn't do that http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Banish]

On 2007-01-19 09:22, Xeno-Windgust wrote:
I can gladly add my contribution to this thread now!

I have even more FAT Pal Rappies, who have a 1/512 * 1/64 chance of appearing only! Multiply again by 1/22 for the drop -_-

Just the fat Pal appearance is rarer than getting a regular Pal + Agito.

1/512 * 1/64 < 1/512 * 1/22

I've seen 2 fat pals now already on 9 Pal Rappies. I have cursed good luck, it seems.





That's cool. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

I have never seen a big/fat Rare Rappy, while I have played, but I know that they look funny!

[FelixFelicis]

o gosh.. you guys aren't that good at math...

When they say that the chance of seeing a rappy is 1/512, it is completely independent from chance of finding Real Agito 1975 which is 1/22. Those outcomes are independent. That means they have no outcomes in common.

The calculations you see above is the chance that your first ever rappy in ultimate is Pal Rappy and it drops Real Agito 1975 in the first try. This number, as you guys said before, is 1/11,264.

This bottom number 11,264 means that you have to visually see 11,264 El Rappies to find a Real Agito 1975.

So whenever you see a Pal, you are rolling a die with 22 faces. Depending on luck, you will, in average, get each faces once when you roll the die 22 times, rite? The probability here works just the same way. Everytime you find a Pal, you get a die with 22 faces. When you get a certain face, you receive Agito 1975.

Good luck anyways...

[Drakorn]

Lucky for you i STILL havent found a pal rappy,i went in 3 FiY quests ans got 3 rare items but not a DANG pal rappy.

[Meeth]

Drakorn has just found a Pal Rappy, he piped and when he came back he found a Pal Rappy. Lucky him, i still havent found one. oh, he sez he also found one yesterday.

[Tweengo]

If the chances are in the 11 thousands for Agito, then what the heck is the calculation for the Psycho Wand from Purplenum Mil Lily (off topic I know) which is 1/501 I think.
Sheesh....best get the smelling salts if I see that result http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[FelixFelicis]

On 2007-01-20 06:30, Tweengo wrote:
If the chances are in the 11 thousands for Agito, then what the heck is the calculation for the Psycho Wand from Purplenum Mil Lily (off topic I know) which is 1/501 I think.
Sheesh....best get the smelling salts if I see that result http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


im pretty sure the chance is somewhere between 200 and 250. But! the chances of finding a psycho wand from your first ob lily, not given that it has turned into a mil lily is 1/201 * 1/512, which is 1/102,912. Meaning, in order for you to find a psycho wand, you have to, in average, see about 100k of ob lilies from piping.

[Tweengo]

Sheesh.......just sheesh. Speechless! Man, I wish the drops weren't that stingy. I'm sure that I could get the Agito from the Pal Rappy in my lifetime, but that just takes the biscuit. Oh well, no Psycho Wand for me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Drakorn]

On 2007-01-20 07:11, FelixFelicis wrote:

On 2007-01-20 06:30, Tweengo wrote:
If the chances are in the 11 thousands for Agito, then what the heck is the calculation for the Psycho Wand from Purplenum Mil Lily (off topic I know) which is 1/501 I think.
Sheesh....best get the smelling salts if I see that result http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


im pretty sure the chance is somewhere between 200 and 250. But! the chances of finding a psycho wand from your first ob lily, not given that it has turned into a mil lily is 1/201 * 1/512, which is 1/102,912. Meaning, in order for you to find a psycho wand, you have to, in average, see about 100k of ob lilies from piping.



No, the chance is a roll of a die, just say there is an 102,912 sided dice, if the dice struck on one it means you found a mil lily with a psycho wand (if you get me)

[T0m]

On 2007-01-20 11:26, Drakorn wrote:

On 2007-01-20 07:11, FelixFelicis wrote:
in average, see about 100k of ob lilies from piping.


No, the chance is a roll of a die, just say there is an 102,912 sided dice, if the dice struck on one it means you found a mil lily with a psycho wand (if you get me)


Yes but that's the same. Rolling that undoubtedly odd looking, 102,912 sided die, with only one side showing the outcome you want, means in this case that you'll see about 100k of ob lilies, on average.
http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

[Drakorn]

Oh i see, I thought Felix was counting how many ob Lillies you need to find to get the weapon.