New twin dagger/ dbl saber PA info please?

[AlphaMinotaux]

How many hits is both the new PA's for Twin Dagger and Double Saber. ie 3 hits total, 1st hit hits 22 targets 12 times, 2nd hit hits 52 targets 69 times, etc etc. And the PP cost please if possible.

[Phetty]

Gravity Dance Hits 4 times the first combo, 2 times on the second, and 1 time on the last with a cost of 20 per use. Not sure on the Twin Daggers other then it costs 15 and isnt quite as useful as Renkai is.

[ljkkjlcm9]

Twin daggers hits 4 times on the first, 3 times on the second and... not sure on the last part as I haven't gotten there yet, but it's much more useful on single enemies/big enemies.

THE JACKEL

[AlphaMinotaux]

im positive gravity dance is only 3 hits on the first part

[Phetty]

Im pretty sure its 4, but Ill test and find out in a minute when I get online.

[MaximumBurst]

The first part of Gravity Dance hits 2 targets 4 times each.

As an additional note, the damage of Gravity Dance only caps at 120% atp, whereas Renkai-Buyou Zan caps at 165%. GD caps at 84% ata, and RBZ at 83% ata. In terms of targets, GD goes 2>2>2 and RBZ goes 2>3>3. Finally, in hits, GD goes 4>2>1 and RBZ goes 3>2>4.



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[Pengfishh]

Spiral Dance 4 lyf

[Nani-chan]

Renkai Buyou-zan : 16 pp
lvl 20 128% att. 83% acc.

Mobu Seiren-zan : 15 pp
lvl 20 145% att. 69% Acc.

Now it's more evenly match.

[Almalexia]

On 2007-01-16 18:28, MaximumBurst wrote:
The first part of Gravity Dance hits 2 targets 4 times each.

As an additional note, the damage of Gravity Dance only caps at 120% atp, whereas Renkai-Buyou Zan caps at 165%. GD caps at 84% ata, and RBZ at 83% ata. In terms of targets, GD goes 2>2>2 and RBZ goes 2>3>3. Finally, in hits, GD goes 4>2>1 and RBZ goes 3>2>4.



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Renkai Buyon-Zan was nerfed. It is 138%.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

moubu seiren zan, the new tiwn dagger art is 4-3-3, I have it at level 24 right now.

[McLaughlin]

Pretty sure Gravity Dance caps out at 140% ATP, but I never bought it so I wouldn't know.

But Renkai was dropped to 138%.

[Tiyr]

An important note about Gravity Dance is that the damage goes up significantly with each combo. First part is four hits on two targets, second is more damage for two hits on two targets, and the last is a single hit on three targets for about double damage (double the first combo's damage, that is) with a knockup.

Moubu does decent damage, but the best part of it is that every couple of hits is a stagger--on a single enemy, you can spam this without retaliation as long as you don't miss.

[Zorafim]

I seem to like the new twin dagger PA more than the first one. It flinches the enemy very quickly, making its description make sense (doesn't give the enemy time to counterattack). I don't think renkai gave a flinch until the very last hit. I think robado more than makes up for my lack of renkai, while the new dagger one kind of makes up for my lack of daggas (I'll get daggas back on my palette soon enough...).