Fortetecher Hax

[BLACKR0SE]

I thought the limit on PAs was 60 overall.

1/30/30 = 61 (wat)

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discuss

[Randomness]

Hmm... that is odd...

[Kimil]

They get

10/30/30 don't they? O_O



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[Eskimo]

Just watch my Fortecher wield my blades hand to hand, go-vahras don't have anything on me, myself and all other Fortechers have the uncanny ability to catch their attacks with our faces, jealous much?

[Nani-chan]

You don't have to learn every PA available to a class.

[Eliash]

I think all fortetechers should be nerfed to 1/1/1!

If they leave them with this current 1/30/30 they will start out meleeing hunter-types!

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[BLACKR0SE]

Um...FObeast >____>

[foamcup]

We get level 30 Bullets because we have bows and cards. Jebus people, get a life.

[McLaughlin]

Fighgunners have Crossbows and Twin Handguns, by your logic, we should get LV 30 bullets.

[Ether]

You don't get S-Rank in them though. The only class with S-Rank in a weapon that can't use level 30 PAs with it is Wartecher with Dagger(s)

[-Ryuki-]

S-ranks don't really matter as long as your ability to use a weapon is good.

I could settle for an A-Rank, as long as I was able to still use that weapon with lvl 30 PA's/Bullets.

[Shiro_Ryuu]

if a class gets EXCLUSIVE [S rank] access to a weapon type, its only fair that they get level 30 photon arts for that respective weapon. thats all. and for level 1 skills, what business does a Fortetecher even have of meleeing except for opening boxes? and even then, why the hell would you do a photon art on a box which can't even fight back?

[foamcup]

On 2007-01-24 14:54, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Fighgunners have Crossbows and Twin Handguns, by your logic, we should get LV 30 bullets.



But Figunners don't actually use guns. Everyone knows that people pick that class just for the ALMIGHTY DOUBLESABER.

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[Rizen]

Figunners want their cake and to eat too.

[-Ryuki-]

On 2007-01-24 15:05, foamcup wrote:

On 2007-01-24 14:54, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Fighgunners have Crossbows and Twin Handguns, by your logic, we should get LV 30 bullets.



But Figunners don't actually use guns. Everyone knows that people pick that class just for the ALMIGHTY DOUBLESABER.

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Objection! My FiGunner uses guns, and demands lvl 30 bullets. His crossbow is inefficient, as well as his Dualies. He wants to be effective, not gimped. The double saber, isn't the reason for my picking the class on my alt. You sir, are a phony!

[Laranas]

Wartechers don't even get 20 Bullets and we can equip those same cards and bows that Guntechers and Fortechers can... hell, we can actually USE high rank cards, why can't we get 3 bullets on em

[Errorrrr]

you guys all shut up! You guys are all fine... wartecher is totally cheated on every single aspect...

[-Ryuki-]

WarTecher IS indeed cheated on.

They could've settled for either Lvl 30 PA's, OR Lvl 30 Techs.

If they got both, then you're asking for an overpowered class.

I call hacks!

[Tengoku]

On 2007-01-24 14:13, BLACKR0SE wrote:
I thought the limit on PAs was 60 overall.

1/30/30 = 61 (wat)

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discuss

It's a nonsensical thing. Below, Wpn /Bullets/ Tech:

Fortegunner - 10/30/0 = 40
Fortefighter - 30/10/0 = 40
Wartecher - 20/10/20 = 50
Guntecher - 10/30/10 = 50
Fighgunner = 30/20/0 = 50
Protranser = 30/30/0 = 60

Do any of these really make sense? How do you quantify the results? Does the 40 total PA abilities of the Fortegunner mean they are 10 worse than the Fighgunner? If so what does the 10 mean? 10%? 10% of what?

That's the question that should be asked.

[Rashiid]

lets review now....

fortetecher's attack damage............10........

PA damage...........30?

i dont see how u can complain......name 1 good fortetecher that ACTUALLY uses a spear.....

like, seriously uses one.....

[Mattardo]

As a wartekker, I would trade the ability to use fists, double swords, sabers, spears, claws and double claws for level 30 pas. All I use are wands, knives, cards and bows. Is that too much to ask? Surelyy level 30 in 4 things is not too much? GIMME!

[Mio]

Fighunners asking for level 30 bullets? LOL
Let's roll all our rangers to Fighunners!!!

[Garnet_Moon]

lv1 Melee: LOL
lv30 techs: This hand of mine glows with an awesome power...
lv30 Bullets: Well, Infect lv4 is nice on a bow? lol?

[Nani-chan]

I really hate this whole WT bashing paradox that continualously happens.. I try other stuff and then go back to wt. I get bored with ranger and FT..

[ljkkjlcm9]

Fortetecher gets level 30 bullets because of cards and bows, it's reasonable.

I don't want level 30 bullets, I'll settle with level 21 bullets.

THE JACKEL

[Laranas]

On 2007-01-24 18:17, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Fortetecher gets level 30 bullets because of cards and bows, it's reasonable.

I don't want level 30 bullets, I'll settle with level 21 bullets.

THE JACKEL

Don't use that arguement cause Wartechers get cards and bows as their only decent range weapons and they're stuck with Lv10 BAs

[ljkkjlcm9]

Foretechers have exclusive access to S rank cards and bows. Wartecher is obviously not suppose to be using ranged weapons. I mean, they're WAR-TECHERS, they're suppose to be anything but ranged
On that note, if a fighgunner can get 21 bullets, give a wartecher 21 skills

THE JACKEL


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[Laranas]

On 2007-01-24 18:22, ljkkjlcm9 wrote:
Foretechers have exclusive access to S rank cards and bows. Wartecher is obviously not suppose to be using ranged weapons. I mean, they're WAR-TECHERS, they're suppose to be anything but ranged

THE JACKEL

I'm still waiting to see a fT use an 8* card, I'd love to see one that can equip a 10-12*. And the fact that my bow does ~380-400 dmg without shifta makes it a lot more useful than pulling out a diga as a Wartecher

[Proff]

On 2007-01-24 15:04, Shiroryuu wrote:
why the hell would you do a photon art on a box which can't even fight back?


You'll know when you encounter an SS Rank box.

[ShinMaruku]

On 2007-01-24 15:06, Rizen wrote:
Figunners want their cake and to eat too.


I have my cake and eat it!

[DarkSeph]

ROTFLMFAO!!!

30 PA'S

30 BULLETS

1 SKILL

......ANY QUESTIONS!

[DarkSeph]

by the way......

Wartechers and the like are for people who can't make up their mind on a more specific class trend...... I....was one of those people, I wanted to Melee like craxy on monsters but wanted to heal with wands......so originally I wanted to be a Wartecher.......then I decided on what I wanted more........So people should really play around with the base classes till at least level 10 and THEN decide on what they want to do........cuz it sucks to level up the higher classes only to change your mind....really, it does!

[LOTRLegolas]

Then what is ur reason on picking Figunner?

[zanotam]

On 2007-01-24 18:43, Proff wrote:

On 2007-01-24 15:04, Shiroryuu wrote:
why the hell would you do a photon art on a box which can't even fight back?


You'll know when you encounter an SS Rank box.


NO! You mustn't tell them about how SS RANK BOX's are unable to be blown up by techs OR Ranged and must first take 200 melee dmg....OOPS!

[Rashiid]

double saber and dual pistols?

[LOTRLegolas]

Then what is ur reason on picking Figunner?

[Laranas]

On 2007-01-24 19:25, DarkSeph wrote:
by the way......

Wartechers and the like are for people who can't make up their mind on a more specific class trend...... I....was one of those people, I wanted to Melee like craxy on monsters but wanted to heal with wands......so originally I wanted to be a Wartecher.......then I decided on what I wanted more........So people should really play around with the base classes till at least level 10 and THEN decide on what they want to do........cuz it sucks to level up the higher classes only to change your mind....really, it does!

I chose Wartecher before the game was even released, got all my basics to 10, wartecher to 10 (gotta update sig). Played fF, FG, GT, and fT, and STILL chose Wartecher. It's not indecision.

[NinjaSalad]

Then what is ur reason on picking Figunner?


double saber and dual pistols?

[Remedy]

On 2007-01-24 15:12, Laranas wrote:
hell, we can actually USE high rank cards, why can't we get 3 bullets on em

On 2007-01-24 18:29, Laranas wrote:
I'm still waiting to see a fT use an 8* cardErm, I'd like to point out that I've been able to use a Mira-kikami since 66/10...



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[ne1first]

On 2007-01-24 15:22, Tengoku wrote:
Fortegunner - 10/30/0 = 40
Fortefighter - 30/10/0 = 40
Wartecher - 20/10/20 = 50
Guntecher - 10/30/10 = 50
Fighgunner = 30/20/0 = 50
Protranser = 30/30/0 = 60

Actually fortefighter, fortegunner, protranser have lv1 TECHS, just cant use any wands/rods.

[Rashiid]

On 2007-01-25 03:43, ne1first wrote:

On 2007-01-24 15:22, Tengoku wrote:
Fortegunner - 10/30/0 = 40
Fortefighter - 30/10/0 = 40
Wartecher - 20/10/20 = 50
Guntecher - 10/30/10 = 50
Fighgunner = 30/20/0 = 50
Protranser = 30/30/0 = 60

Actually fortefighter, fortegunner, protranser have lv1 TECHS, just cant use any wands/rods.



THANK U!

we only can use single swords/daggers/spear

we cant even use most A ranks of those cauz the ATP required is mad high for a fortetecher

[Shiro_Ryuu]

On 2007-01-24 18:43, Proff wrote:

On 2007-01-24 15:04, Shiroryuu wrote:
why the hell would you do a photon art on a box which can't even fight back?


You'll know when you encounter an SS Rank box.



oh crap! the boxes start moving by theirselves and begin attacking you?

[Remedy]

On 2007-01-24 18:04, Garnet_Moon wrote:
lv30 techs: This hand of mine glows with an awesome power...It tells me that I should throw giant balls of molten earth at you? *confused*

[ShinMaruku]

You don't feel the energy, the Power?
That's it I'm gonna make Magneto.

[Kent]

On 2007-01-24 19:25, DarkSeph wrote:
by the way......

Wartechers and the like are for people who can't make up their mind on a more specific class trend...... I....was one of those people, I wanted to Melee like craxy on monsters but wanted to heal with wands......so originally I wanted to be a Wartecher.......then I decided on what I wanted more........So people should really play around with the base classes till at least level 10 and THEN decide on what they want to do........cuz it sucks to level up the higher classes only to change your mind....really, it does!


...Except not. Wartecher's about versatility, not indecision. Despite the lack of ability to use bullets higher than level 10, Wartecher is still a decent ranged attacker, simply due to how good Longbows and Cards are. Yes, they're still better with melee attacks and with Techniques, but they aren't bad with ranged weaponry.

The people who play Wartecher, and don't suck at it, know how and when to use melee, techniques, and ranged attacks effectively, and do so in practice.