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Altaneen
Jan 27, 2007, 02:48 AM
what grade mission can you find the black heart? Ive heard at least A-rank but im curious if that is correct if any one could let me know id be greatful

Soukosa
Jan 27, 2007, 05:38 AM
It'd be a shared drop thus any level of the enemy will have a chance to drop it. So the hunt can be done on any rank. Only the Te/Tech PP Save unit is limited by levels. You'll have to go with S rank for that since only lv 50+ of the enemy will drop it.

Sephlock
Jan 27, 2007, 10:18 AM
A shared drop? Whats that mean? Where do you get this item and what is it for?

Nani-chan
Jan 27, 2007, 04:56 PM
I'd assume a shared drop means a drop on any difficulty, like polties drop acid and rappies drop their feathers.

This is just a difficult item that we need to ease up on since noone has it atm. (Kinda glad it isn't easy to have or else everyone.. and I mean everyone would have it)


The black flame visual, Jubei show's it off near the end of his video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKYvmbGmaiA

Everyone who has reported killing the rare monster on any difficulty has not found a black heart yet. There are like 2 other threads about the hive/moatoab cave so go read those too.

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Soukosa
Jan 27, 2007, 05:21 PM
All enemies have 3 shared drops which are like rare drops that are shared between all of the levels. Then there's 9 rare drops that drop based on the enemie's level.

Also remember, special drops from enemies, even if they are rare ones, doesn't mean the chance of it dropping is high. Anyone that's played PSO can probably vouch for that...

Umberger
Jan 27, 2007, 05:35 PM
On 2007-01-27 14:21, Sounomi wrote:
Also remember, special drops from enemies, even if they are rare ones, doesn't mean the chance of it dropping is high. Anyone that's played PSO can probably vouch for that...



That's true, but the rates of a rare creature dropping a rare seem to be much higher. Out of the 20+ Rappies I've seen, they've all either dropped a Feather/Christmas Tree or meseta.

-Crokar-
Jan 27, 2007, 06:39 PM
ive ionly seen one black heart on the 360 and it sold for 1.25 mil.

Fran
Jan 27, 2007, 07:55 PM
On 2007-01-27 14:21, Sounomi wrote:
All enemies have 3 shared drops which are like rare drops that are shared between all of the levels. Then there's 9 rare drops that drop based on the enemie's level.

Also remember, special drops from enemies, even if they are rare ones, doesn't mean the chance of it dropping is high. Anyone that's played PSO can probably vouch for that...



So are you saying that increased level difficulty might increase the drop rate?

Soukosa
Jan 27, 2007, 09:58 PM
On 2007-01-27 14:35, Umberger wrote:
That's true, but the rates of a rare creature dropping a rare seem to be much higher. Out of the 20+ Rappies I've seen, they've all either dropped a Feather/Christmas Tree or meseta.

Some rare monsters on PSO had a 7/8 rate on their rares while others like the Purplenum Caves Mil Lily was anything but that. Feathers and Christmas Trees are easy to get. However, going after the unit the higher level ones drop is much rougher.


On 2007-01-27 16:55, Fran wrote:
So are you saying that increased level difficulty might increase the drop rate?

Special drops that are shared between levels are likely to have the same rates regardless of the enemy's level. Ones that are set to specific level range may likely go up with the level. At this time there's been nothing to say if the rates can fluculate between levels or not. Knowing ST, the shared ones are likely always the same. The ones set to specific levels could show up more often but not likely on all of them.

Krans
Jan 27, 2007, 11:29 PM
does the unit actually increase anything? or is it just for looks

Natrokos
Jan 29, 2007, 12:15 PM
STA +2.....If I got it i'd sell it personally and buy other stuffs.

Magician
Jan 29, 2007, 02:25 PM
Yeah, I don't believe coolness is worth over a million meseta.

I'd pay that for Whitill Wing if it were available, at least that unit comes with a significant stat boost, but not the Black Heart's +2 Sta/End.