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DarkSeph
Jan 28, 2007, 11:23 PM
Anyone else notice this? Your PM is specifically set to Say, 100lvl Armor, yet it's Synthing Trend is for Shotguns? Shotguns are Ranged so WTF? I haven't actually looked yet but does that mean even with a 100lvl Armor PM I could still get high synthing stats for Shotguns?

.....just wondering

Chaobo99
Jan 28, 2007, 11:24 PM
Synth. Trend is just part of the description..it doesnt really matter >.>..at least as far as I know..I have a GH-420(synth trend:strike) and I make rifles on her cause i got her with 80 range

NPCMook
Jan 28, 2007, 11:28 PM
Basically the Synth trend is gonna be what they specialize in making, unfortunately we may or may not see a PM with the synth trend of Armor, Hopefully when they release GH460 She'll be an Armor specialist

But as far as Chaobo99's go he would actually should have Higher Synth rates on Striking weapons than his rifles

But I agree Going full Armor on a PM and only getting a 55% on an armor is kinda Aggrivating thing

Chaobo99
Jan 28, 2007, 11:30 PM
nope my claws are at a 38% while my rifles is at a 54%(same # of stars and same rank)...i heard it affects time..but really no differance as far as I know..

DarkSeph
Jan 28, 2007, 11:31 PM
......unfortunately from what I've seen the 46X versions are non-armor related.....http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif but whatever.....it is still confusing....they should have at least kept the certain weapon types with the way you raise your PM.....shotguns for example put with a Higher level Range PM....NOT an Armor PM........

McLaughlin
Jan 28, 2007, 11:32 PM
Fairly sure Syn. Trend just depicts the weapon types they use.

Either way, I've found it to be of little relevance.

Chaobo99
Jan 28, 2007, 11:32 PM
well she is the GH-440 and her synth trend is NOT shotgun..its range >.>

McLaughlin
Jan 28, 2007, 11:35 PM
On 2007-01-28 20:32, Obsidian_Knight wrote:
Fairly sure Syn. Trend just depicts the weapon types they use.

Either way, I've found it to be of little relevance.



Just thought of something. If Syn. Trend DID depict the type of weapon the PM uses, it'd explain why there aren't an PM's with an Armor trend. You can't very well fight things with armor >_>.

*Throws Gigaline at Gohmon*

PMB960
Jan 28, 2007, 11:49 PM
On 2007-01-28 20:32, Chaobo99 wrote:
well she is the GH-440 and her synth trend is NOT shotgun..its range >.>



Actually the 440 I have uses a shotgun. She also uses Dual Pistols but her main weapon is a shotgun.

DRO
Jan 29, 2007, 12:01 AM
bump...anyone know exactly how synth trend effects the pm?

PMB960
Jan 29, 2007, 12:08 AM
Synth trend is what type of weapon they are best at synthing. The 440 is the only exception since synth trend is also what weapon type they use. Since the 440 can't use armor as a weapon they picked firearms. The 440s main weapon is a shotgun (Shiga Amza). She also uses Evil Twins and a Canara. All the data on PMs is here.

http://psupedia.info/index.php?title=Partner_Machinery



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NPCMook
Jan 29, 2007, 12:12 AM
Which makes me think the 46x PMs will hopefully be Armor since all of their other forms tend to be using different weapons

DRO
Jan 29, 2007, 12:15 AM
On 2007-01-28 21:08, PMB960 wrote:
Synth trend is what type of weapon they are best at synthing.
http://psupedia.info/index.php?title=Partner_Machinery



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if my pm trend is shotguns, than why do 6 star shot guns have the same exact success % as my 6 star pistols? Same synth time also...
?

PMB960
Jan 29, 2007, 12:19 AM
The synth trend isn't shotguns it is firearms. That PM uses Firearms as a weapon but the main one is a shotgun. Read the 2nd sentence in my post. Armor is not a weapon so it cannot be a synth trend.

DarkSeph
Jan 29, 2007, 01:11 AM
Sooooooo.......getting to the point of my post... Does that mean then that my Armor PM is Good at synthing Armor AND Shotguns/ranged weaps ?......I guess I'll have to throw in a shotgun and a few ranged weaps to see for myself......

Soukosa
Jan 29, 2007, 01:31 AM
Synth trend means nothing. The type of PM you have has no influence on the synth rates. Only the corresponding stat for that equip has any influence on synthing it.

Neith
Jan 29, 2007, 10:54 AM
440 is a Ranged PM, simple as that. Just because yours is Armour doesn't change that, it's still preferable to Gun synths.

Errorrrr
Jan 29, 2007, 11:42 AM
my GH450 have like 49% chance of synthing 9* Dagger... she is a dirty breed 30/70 type... but yea... she have a lot higher chance on wand than striking.. but whatever... it works for me XD but just don't synth like Crea Doubles on anything besides 410/420 lol...

PMB960
Jan 29, 2007, 02:10 PM
The only thing that affects your PM synth rates is its level. The synth trend is what weapons it uses in combat. The 440 will have the same chance to synth a gun as a pure Strike PM or a pure Tech PM. The 440s synth trend is firearms since it isn't possible to use weapons in combat again all this info is on psupedia.org.

Soukosa
Jan 29, 2007, 04:01 PM
On 2007-01-29 08:42, Errorrrr wrote:
my GH450 have like 49% chance of synthing 9* Dagger... she is a dirty breed 30/70 type... but yea... she have a lot higher chance on wand than striking.. but whatever... it works for me XD but just don't synth like Crea Doubles on anything besides 410/420 lol...

49% chance on a 9* is what a pure weapon PM should do with 98+ in that respective stat.

I've been working on gathering up synth rates. So far I've done the rates on a pure tech PM which should be exactly the same for elemental melee and ranged weapons on their respective pure PM types. It should be noted that there was no significant increases in the rates upon ANY of the evolutions.

Errorrrr
Jan 29, 2007, 06:47 PM
On 2007-01-29 13:01, Sounomi wrote:

On 2007-01-29 08:42, Errorrrr wrote:
my GH450 have like 49% chance of synthing 9* Dagger... she is a dirty breed 30/70 type... but yea... she have a lot higher chance on wand than striking.. but whatever... it works for me XD but just don't synth like Crea Doubles on anything besides 410/420 lol...

49% chance on a 9* is what a pure weapon PM should do with 98+ in that respective stat.

I've been working on gathering up synth rates. So far I've done the rates on a pure tech PM which should be exactly the same for elemental melee and ranged weapons on their respective pure PM types. It should be noted that there was no significant increases in the rates upon ANY of the evolutions.



Wow that's a relieve http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif I was about to reset my 450 to pure striking since i don't make much wands... only striking weapons >_>



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