Phantom Line + Phantom Rifle = ?

[Hotobu]

Straightforward question. By equipping these two items together what is the benefit? Is ot only ATP or more than that? If so what is the % increase? Thank you.

[Sephlock]

To answer your title: Phantom Line + Phantom Rifle = fantastically expensive.

As far as the bonus goes, all I've ever heard about is the boost to ATP. Not sure how much it is, though.

Theres some info about it here:

http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=17151

[rena-ko]

there were some figures flying around concerning this set. something about def + 25%, atp + 25% and i think it was evp + 25%. i'm not 100% sure tho that i recall correctly.

[MrFortegunner]

I know that the phantom gets 25% more ATA and ATP ^_^.

[THERAPIST]

On 2007-01-30 00:21, Sephlock wrote:
Phantom Line + Phantom Rifle = fantastically expensive.

Phantom Line is stupidly expensive ... upwards of 2mil for semi-decent %
Phantom Rifle is CHEAP! I picked 2 up for 250k ea, and a 3rd for 300k. Pays to shop around http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Sephlock]

I guess "Cheap" is a relative term.

[THERAPIST]

Considering that most other 9* ranged weapons are generally priced upwards of 400k, 250k is cheap!

[Siertes]

I wish the Phantom Line was stronger...

[Shadow_Wing]

It all depends on the elements =3 I bought/found/ect around 30 Phantom Lines boards XD made a few good eles lol

[Dymalos]

On 2007-01-31 16:27, MrFortegunner wrote:
I know that the phantom gets 25% more ATA and ATP ^_^.



False. It recieves a 25% boost to its base Att and Acc. ATA and ATP are your stats, and they never come into the equation when dealing with a set bonus. Also the set bonus doesn't apply to the additional Att and Acc the Phantom recieves from grinds.

As for the Phantomline it recieves a 25% boost to its listed Def.

[Sephlock]

Is the Phantom rifle worth it without the armor? Where on earth am I supposed to get all that Nano... resin, is it?

[THERAPIST]

On 2007-01-31 21:15, Sephlock wrote:
Is the Phantom rifle worth it without the armor?

IMO yes, simply for the superior base stats over the other rifles (specifically ATP/ATA ... Yohmei still pwns PP).


Where on earth am I supposed to get all that Nano... resin, is it?

From the Synth Shop for 7500 meseta .... or player shops if you're lucky and find one selling stacks for a decent price http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[thefixer]

i got them the day they came out and i haven't looked back. if you can use rifles, then you should be using this combo.

[Sephlock]

Do you mean you synthed them, or what?

[rena-ko]

On 2007-01-31 23:56, Sephlock wrote:
Do you mean you synthed them, or what?



you can buy them (http://www.pso-world.com/items/psu-store-prices/12/categoryxtypexprice-ma_grms%3A_clyez/)

[Kronon]

It's a very nice combo for Fortegunners, synthed a few Phantom Lines for myself till I got a decent % on it.

I'd advise you to find a friend with an Armour PM to try to synth it for you. The mats only cost about 250k or so.

[EC_Subbie]

Yea it's nice.. I'm hitting around 600 per shot now vs opposite element on medium/smaller enemies (with buffs). Criticals are in the 800s...highest I believe was 880.



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[MrFortegunner]

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On 2007-01-31 16:27, MrFortegunner wrote:
I know that the phantom gets 25% more ATA and ATP ^_^.



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False. It recieves a 25% boost to its base Att and Acc. ATA and ATP are your stats, and they never come into the equation when dealing with a set bonus. Also the set bonus doesn't apply to the additional Att and Acc the Phantom recieves from grinds.

As for the Phantomline it recieves a 25% boost to its listed Def.


Sorry, that's what I ment

[Carbinne]

Phantoms are solid damage dealers but they run out of PP too fast for my liking. I save a couple as block-busters and primarily use the big PP storing Falgohohs for everyday killing. +6s are good, 8s are great and the 10s that I now have are phenomenal.

[Corran1]

all I know is I do more damage with a phantom and phantom line then I did with a riflic +10 or a falcon +10 even though the Att on those rifles is 40+ over the phantom.

phantom = about 540 att
riflic +10 = about 600

[Traize]

Don't suppose anyone'd fancy helping me get a hold of some Phantoms? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Jesus_christ]

wat do u have 2 offer?

[lichih]

On 2007-01-31 21:05, Dymalos wrote:

On 2007-01-31 16:27, MrFortegunner wrote:
I know that the phantom gets 25% more ATA and ATP ^_^.



False. It recieves a 25% boost to its base Att and Acc. ATA and ATP are your stats, and they never come into the equation when dealing with a set bonus. Also the set bonus doesn't apply to the additional Att and Acc the Phantom recieves from grinds.

As for the Phantomline it recieves a 25% boost to its listed Def.



ATA and ATP does comein in some set like Nafri/Nafli set.

[lichih]

On 2007-02-20 23:22, Corran1 wrote:
all I know is I do more damage with a phantom and phantom line then I did with a riflic +10 or a falcon +10 even though the Att on those rifles is 40+ over the phantom.

phantom = about 540 att
riflic +10 = about 600



Phantomline don't have an arm slot, but the armor itself add 15 attack, and set bonus adds 541*0.25=135 to your attack plus 188*0.25=47 to your acc.

That will overpower your other +10 rifles unless you wear power charge.

[MrFortegunner]

I think that this combo will be really good because people who can only use a rank rifles, this combo will be as good as an 11* maybe, and you get great defence ^_^. I've already seen like 20 people with this combonation. I'm trying to get it myself.

[iono]

You can't use a Mega/Rainbow so the defense isn't as good as you'd think. Actually it does have an arm slot but no body slot.

[Corran1]

since I cant use a mega rainbow, ive got phantom lines in every element (except ground) at 20% or more. XD