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Stixx
Jan 31, 2007, 02:16 AM
Stixx's guide to hunting Dark Heart

First thing's first: You're going to be hunting in the HIVE. The HIVE is accessed through the fourth floor of the Guardian's Colony. It doesn't matter what difficulty you choose to hunt on, as the Darbelan's will drop the Black Heart on all difficulties (You get the added bonus of a chance at a Te/Tech PP Save unit on S rank difficulty). I personally got my Dark Heart on C rank, meaning level 10 enemies.

Now, onto how to hunt Darbelans. I guess the first thing you would want to know is what a Darbelan looks like. Well, here it is:

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/5167/psu20070129181750001ud5.png

These guys will appear on only three (3) variations of the HIVE. There are a total of twelve (12) map variations including enemy spawn variations. This seems to confuse alot of people, so let me break it down. Basically, there are three (3) different 'routes' of the HIVE. From now on, these 'routes' will be mentioned as A, B, and C. Each route has four (4) enemy spawn variations, meaning that If you get route A there are four (4) different patterns in which enemies can appear. This is illustrated in the following chart. Credit goes to Skuda.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/scottkuda/PSU%20shots/RareSpawnChart-SatelliteofDarkness.jpg

As you see here, there are routes A, B, and C along with each individual spawn pattern as shown by A-1, A-2, A-3, A-X, B-1, etc.

The maps you are looking for are A-X, B-X, and C-X. Each of these map variations result in four (4) Darbelans spawning.

Now then, onto the details. I'm going to start by explaining what to look for for each rare 'route' (i.e. A-X, B-X, and C-X).

PART ONE - A-X

-Block 1

Basically, in Block 1 you are looking for Delsabans to spawn. You will get either a group of four Pannons or a group of three Delsabans. YOU WANT THE DELSABANS.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_093315_004.jpg

Don't get excited yet though, because as you can see (referencing the chart) route A has three different spawn variations that start with Delsabans. If you look at the chart, you will also notice that below the Delsaban there are notes reading (large: Jusnagun) or (large: Dilnazen) or (large: SEED Vance). This means that if you get that particular spawn variation, that particular species of "large" monster will show up throughout that entire block. As you can see, A-X requires you to not only get Delsabans but Dilnazen as well. The large monsters for route A don't show up until you clear the first room and go into the small room to the south (to the right as you enter the room).

Here is a picture of the map, and where to find the Dilnazen.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_093436_006.jpg

After you confirm that you get Delsabans as your first spawn and that you get Dilnazen in the little room, you are ready to move on to block 2. Clear the way as fast as you can. Trust me, you'll memorize where every monster spawns. As a Figunner I just bring along a pair of twin handguns and everything goes down in a volley of shots (large monsters take a few volleys).

-Block 2

This is much simpler than Block 1. When you walk into Block 2 this is what you want to see:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_093802_007.jpg

Notice there are three (3) pannon, not five. If you get five pannon you got a bad map and you need to restart. Feel free to play through the rest of the mission, but don't expect to see any Darbelans. If you see three (3) pannon you are homefree and expect to see four of those giant Darbelan in Block 3...hopefully they drop a Black Heart for you http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

-Block 3

If you do get a rare map (A-X, B-X, or C-X) Block 3 will be the same no matter what. I'm only going to explain Block 3 in the A-X section, so don't expect to see it again later. When you walk into Block 3, you will see four (4) Delsabans.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_094656_009.jpg

After killing these, four (4) Sendillian will spawn.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_094705_010.jpg

After they die, take the right fork up past the photon cube and enter the room. You will meet your first two Darbelan!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_094728_011.jpg

Kill 'em, hopefully pick up a shiney Black Heart, and continue to clear out the block. As you go, you will run into two more Darbelan.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_094904_012.jpg

PART TWO - B-X

-Block 1

When you start off in route B this is what you want to see:

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_092548_000.jpg

Notice there are two (2) Delsaban and Pannon. If you get this spawn, continue onto Block 2. If not, restart and try again.

-Block 2

When you run into Block 2, the first spawn will be three (3) Delsaban.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_092810_001.jpg

After you kill them, a few more will spawn along with a few Sendillian. After the Sendillian die, the first large monster in the block will spawn. If it's the rare B-X map, a winged Jusnagun will spawn. If a tall green Dinazen spawns, you got a bad map. Here's some pictures to help you:

GOOD!!!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_094537_008.jpg

BAD!!!

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_122133_017.jpg

After you get a Jusnagun to spawn (and kill it), continue on to Block 3 and your four Darbelans.

PART THREE - C-X

-Block 1

This seems to be the most...common rare map. When you walk in, you want to see three (3) pannon as shown below.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_095206_013.jpg

If you get three (3) pannon, continue on to block two. If not, restart and try again.

-Block 2

In Block 2, you want to see three (3) pannon as shown below.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d24/Stixx_navi/PSU/psu20070131_163412_000.jpg

If you see the three (3) pannon, congratulations. Continue on to Block 3 and kill those Darbelans.

Um...I think that's everything.

Good luck in your hunt http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif






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Kimil
Jan 31, 2007, 02:34 AM
Cool, It makes much more sense now http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

I'm not Questing Specifically for this Rare, but I need to find a place to level to 50 and level my PAs (MP is not an issue right now, so i don't mind Start/stopping like this)

I think I'll do this tomorrow! thank you for your hard work! ^_^

Para
Jan 31, 2007, 07:10 AM
dam you've seen all three X routes... Im still having trouble seeing the C-X route.

Deus-Irae
Jan 31, 2007, 08:47 AM
nice visual guide. good work http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Dhylec
Jan 31, 2007, 10:07 AM
Nice! This should be helpful to those hunting for this new item.

Magician
Jan 31, 2007, 10:24 AM
Well done, thank you.

SolomonGrundy
Jan 31, 2007, 05:31 PM
can we get this stickied? This is probably the best guide I've seen, and helps "demystify" the white charts that you veterans know and love http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Umberger
Jan 31, 2007, 06:17 PM
Bravo man, great guide.

JAFO22000
Jan 31, 2007, 06:41 PM
Wonderful guide! This should be used as a template for future guides.

Sephlock
Jan 31, 2007, 08:26 PM
So exactly what does this item actually do? Right now it seems to be like a kind of internet snake-oil, with claims ranging from megid immunity (hah!) to absolutely nothing but a dark aura, like Pigpen from Peanuts.

ShadowHado
Jan 31, 2007, 10:35 PM
Personally I think A-X is the hardest to get because 3x Delsaban in Block 1 could mean A-1, A-3 or A-X.

I think I have done Block 1 of the A-variation almost triple the other two combined.

~~Nate

Garou
Jan 31, 2007, 10:37 PM
I've only met up with the Darbelans once and I didn't get the drop with level one luck. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif I'll try again with a level 3 luck day.

Stixx
Feb 1, 2007, 02:26 AM
On 2007-01-31 17:26, Sephlock wrote:
So exactly what does this item actually do? Right now it seems to be like a kind of internet snake-oil, with claims ranging from megid immunity (hah!) to absolutely nothing but a dark aura, like Pigpen from Peanuts.



Sadly, it doesn't make you immune to megid. It increases your END by 2 though, which helps resist the instant death part I believe.

queenofpso
Feb 1, 2007, 12:41 PM
I played this for 4 hours waiting for the right spawn. i finally got it and all i got was a cruddy Copernia. its like going to disney and not meeting mickey mouse. i cry inside *weeps*

Garou
Feb 1, 2007, 01:08 PM
Woke up, on my fourth run found Darbelans but they all dropped meseta, tried again for 3 hours and I got nothing. Indeed it is like a microcosm or disneyland. xD

Feelmirath
Feb 1, 2007, 02:16 PM
On 2007-02-01 09:41, queenofpso wrote:
I played this for 4 hours waiting for the right spawn. i finally got it and all i got was a cruddy Copernia. its like going to disney and not meeting mickey mouse. i cry inside *weeps*

I just read this post thinking it was me when I might have been in a drunken state. XD (CLARIFY: Would have explained why I wouldn't have remembered posting it, not implying anything XP)
srsly, same thing's happened to me D:

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Dhylec
Feb 1, 2007, 02:22 PM
On 2007-01-31 14:31, SolomonGrundy wrote:
can we get this stickied? This is probably the best guide I've seen, and helps "demystify" the white charts that you veterans know and love http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Have you notice that there is no guides stickied?
That's because they are in this sticky.
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=124388&forum=22&0

With a big list of guides, if we are to sticky those, this page & the next will be full of guides.

Orin654
Feb 1, 2007, 05:14 PM
I did 28 A-x runs and no rare spawn. I think Ill only try these when i have 3 star luck. Glad I have 4 characters.

Tengoku
Feb 1, 2007, 06:03 PM
On 2007-02-01 09:41, queenofpso wrote:
I played this for 4 hours waiting for the right spawn. i finally got it and all i got was a cruddy Copernia. its like going to disney and not meeting mickey mouse. i cry inside *weeps*

I call that a good run. Mickey scares the crap outa me.

/hijack

Good work! I'll try this tonight!

Neith
Feb 1, 2007, 09:02 PM
Nice guide- now if only the Dilnazen would stop spawning in pattern B Block 2, I'd maybe see another Darbelan D:

Maridia
Feb 1, 2007, 09:04 PM
I hunted it for six hours total so far. 3 one night, 3 the next morning. The first night, I saw 12 darbelans. I got 2 copernia out of the deal. The next day I didn't see a single one. I also had 0 luck the first night. If you don't want your "cruddy copernia" please, I'll take it off your hands. I need that stuff for synthing. :/

You could keep this up forever. Wishing everyone the best. XD

And really, people. The charts are easy to figure out without someone holding your hand. I figured them out on my own. <_<

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Skuda
Feb 1, 2007, 09:24 PM
Yeah.. I've probably pumped at least 14 hours into rare map hunting, and I've only found two. I've gotten 2 olpads out of the deal.

*keeps on truckin'*

PSObro
Feb 2, 2007, 01:15 PM
would like to say that i just bumped into a completely different map on C and still got darbelans,it was a mix of C-1 block 1 and C-3 block 2,someone else if possible can confirm this,would be great.

Orin654
Feb 2, 2007, 05:16 PM
What was the spawn on C 1

UnknownFox
Feb 3, 2007, 01:53 AM
sweet guide i think ill start my hunt tomorrow if anyone else wans to join me im a short white and black cast lvl 33 wartecher and i go by the name Anubis also send me a fr to AquiredFlame so i can play more with you guys

EC_Subbie
Feb 4, 2007, 03:58 PM
6 hours worth so far...not a single rare map.

Sitka
Feb 4, 2007, 04:26 PM
Hours and hours and hours of hunting and no rare maps yet - I must be cursed.

Seven - yes seven - Phantom Rifle synth attempts at 49% success rate and all have failed. I am cursed.

A month of running Relics looking for those lovely rappies that dropped me Christmas Trees two months ago and that lovely pink boss that dropped a Svaltus Edge and a Relics Edge two months ago and .... nothing. I am most definitely cursed.

Trying to grind up some b weapons past level 6 today with level 3 luck on my hunter and some +8 grinders - all, as in 10 weapons, all failed. I am really fricking, as in by Davey Jones, cursed.

My friend got a Black Heart on his first hour of running the stupid quest and showed it to me. We went into Linear Line so he could play catch with the megid flippers. On about the sixth toss, they killed him. And again on the ninth toss. And again on the 12th toss.

Meh - I checked the shops (xbox 360) and these people were selling this item for 1 to 3 million - c'mon. It aint worth it. Of course, someone has a Degahana Cannon for sale for 4 million. O really....I stick with my crappy Maser Cannon thank you very much.

Rant over - back to hunting pink rappies tonight.

And grats on the splendidiolicious map/pics - very, very nice post. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Trilo
Feb 4, 2007, 05:33 PM
Ive been at this since 7 hours and no rare maps god dangit.

DrEngrish
Feb 5, 2007, 02:16 AM
I found it yesterday. It took a bit of work, but I found that I had the most luck on B-X. Not sure about the rest of you. This may be my superstition, but i think I got more instances of the rare map, when I wasn't on the crowded server (uni2). I wish all of you the best of luck http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif~!

-Crokar-
Feb 5, 2007, 02:31 AM
found them once in about 60+ hours of nothing but hive.....i may give up

Mistle22
Feb 5, 2007, 06:16 AM
Wow, this guide is sweet. Now I won't waste time doing runs all the way up to block 3 just hoping for the rare spawn http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Great job, one of the best guides i've seen.

Hyda
Feb 7, 2007, 10:46 AM
Nicely done, Ive only seen 1 of the X routes(B-X), but still congrads on such hard work. Sweet Guide as well^^.

Samaine
Feb 16, 2007, 01:38 PM
thanks i finally got my black heart thanks to your guide. good work. =)

Stixx
Feb 17, 2007, 08:36 AM
On 2007-02-16 10:38, Samaine wrote:
thanks i finally got my black heart thanks to your guide. good work. =)



I'm glad http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

SolomonGrundy
Mar 12, 2007, 03:50 PM
UM, guys?

I just did a C rank mission and got the rare spawn that does NOT correspond to the guide. The block one config was completely different.

It is the map where is one very long room, followed by a northern exit and a souther exit. The key for the norther exit drops in the southern room. From that northern room, there is a single exit to the east. The rest of block on consists of three small rooms, on to the south east, and 2 to the north (east and west). The exit to block 2 lies in the west room.

the deljarbans appeared in block 3, in the room adjacent to the PP recharge room.

The worst part is, I didn't write down the enemy spawns, thinking this was jsut a ho-hum regular run!

Luck 2 day, male beast figunner (not that anyof these things make any difference as far as we know).



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HaseoThePKK
Mar 14, 2007, 05:31 PM
Awesome, right after i read this guide.i did a hive run, restarted till 3 pannons and got rare monsters on 1st try!! Thx Stixx, if you're lookin for a few runs just look me up. no blackheart drop though T_T i wont lose hope! i shall keep on trying!!!

SolomonGrundy
Mar 15, 2007, 05:14 AM
great, I can see no one is reading my post

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Cracka_J
Mar 22, 2007, 12:57 PM
nice guide, decided to successfully go hunting yesterday with my alt ranger at 3 luck. hit 2 bx patterns with no drop, and finally an ax that dropped. took about a 3 hour period. not too bad if you really want the item. thx again.

sugarfox
Mar 25, 2007, 08:04 PM
This is ace. I seam to have found myself with nothing to do of late so I'll be doing this all next week http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif TNX

Artemisia
Mar 26, 2007, 07:09 PM
i did 6 hours of runs and i found the Darbelans two times, but they always dropped me meseta, once i also got a monomate and a C sword.

I did all the runs in C difficulty, are you sure that chances of better drops don't increase with a higher level of the mission? perhaps A or S?

Ryno
Mar 26, 2007, 08:57 PM
weird... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif
i just found a black heart! on a C run! i wish i was on my lap top playing! so i can take pix of it.. but i was too excited seeing the Darbelan on the 3rd block on tv... i was like uhhuhuhuh..LOL.. my Heart started pumping..

i can't believe i found one just now.. in uni. 15.. on 03/26/07

and.. i was just trying to get my lv 79.. because i only had 2000 exp to go..LOL

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/x_RYNO_x/ryno14.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/x_RYNO_x/ryno13.jpg

omegapirate2k
Mar 26, 2007, 09:18 PM
=]

Ryno
Mar 28, 2007, 03:37 PM
On 2007-03-26 19:18, omegapirate2k wrote:
=]



http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

SmackMyMonkey
Apr 2, 2007, 11:51 AM
thanks

Buster_Cannon
Apr 6, 2007, 02:43 AM
Gah, damn, this may be a bit late, freaking AWESOME job, kicked the crap out of the other guides I've seen. (No offense, T_T) I'm going to use this strategy, when the X360 servers come up, anyway, thanks a bunch man. PRAISE ALLAH. >.>

Senphion
Apr 6, 2007, 08:20 PM
Been at this for a total of 17 hours (not much to some item hunters out there i guess...) but its long enough for someone like me. Not one rare map, meaning I haven't even seen a darbelan. I would say screw it because the item isnt that great, but I've spent so long looking for this if i stop now... itd be dumb. Gah. Now I know how those rappy hunters feel.

Excellent guide btw, can't imagine how much extra trouble I'd have gone through/will go through, without this helping me.

Edit: Finally, found a rare map, got 2 Copernia like everyone else. Hope day 3 gets me that stupid Black Heart >_>

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Clave
Apr 7, 2007, 10:30 PM
Been at it on and off for almost 2 months using this guide, it works great, I just have terrible luck. 0/56 on Darbelans atm, 14 rare maps.

Neith
Apr 8, 2007, 01:32 PM
I just want to add my findings, unless anyone else has noticed.

If you get a 'B' map variation (the one where you need 2x Pannon and 2x Delsaban in Block 1), there is a way to tell very quickly in Block 2 if you have a B-X map.

Run upto the Block 2 spawn (which will be 3x Delsaban), and kill ONE. Do not kill the whole group. When you kill one of them, watch the room.

- If a Delsaban spawns straight after killing one of the starting 3, you have a X map.
- If no Delsaban spawns, kill the rest, and you'll see one spawn. This is a indicator for a bad map. You don't even need to see the large enemy spawn.

In a normal (bad) map, the Sendillian after the Delsabans will spawn one after the other (i.e you kill one, and another spawns). In a good map, none will spawn until after they are all dead. However, you shouldn't need to see this in a 'bad' map, as you can tell it's bad by the Delsaban spawn, and abandon.

I've tested this over and over again, and everytime the 4th Delsaban spawns AFTER all 3 are dead, it'll be a Dilnazen map (bad).

If you run in, kill one, and another spawns, you will get a Jusnagun, which is good, and will give you a Darbelan map.

It doesn't save much time, but when you're running this for hours, it helps. Hopefully it'll help someone out.

For the record, I'm on 40 Darbelans now, no Black Heart yet.

Hucast-Kireek
Apr 15, 2007, 01:18 PM
One question! what color is the Black Heart drop? Red or blue?

Neith
Apr 15, 2007, 08:14 PM
Since it's not actuallt treated as a rare (being 6*), probably Blue.

Gilliam
Apr 15, 2007, 09:25 PM
oh so its sorta like the Jao thingy the jaggos drop, even though its not rare, its rare due to the rareness of the monster itself

IM_Dizzy
Apr 19, 2007, 10:20 PM
Very good guide, I have been doing this for 4 days and i have fight 12 darbelan they only drop meseta 2 copernia and 1 olpad >< ..does room decoration help drop rare items?

Neith
Apr 20, 2007, 07:56 PM
On 2007-04-19 20:20, IM_Dizzy wrote:
Very good guide, I have been doing this for 4 days and i have fight 12 darbelan they only drop meseta 2 copernia and 1 olpad >< ..does room decoration help drop rare items?



No, room decorations don't affect rare drops. I'm on 48 Darbelans now. >_>

Stixx
May 6, 2007, 05:01 PM
I'm glad you all are finding this useful http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Keep at it till you get 'em!

UncaHank
May 10, 2007, 02:40 PM
bout 10 hours so far not a rare map in sight but ill keep trying . took me a ton of Lily's to get a Psycho Wand in PSO so this is old hat.

thnx for the guide btw its top shelf !

Hucast-Kireek
May 10, 2007, 07:09 PM
Is the drop rate the same in a C rank run as in a S rank run?

Stixx
May 11, 2007, 01:59 AM
I would assume it's the same drop rate.

Aileron
May 11, 2007, 11:07 AM
I'm up to 50+ Darbelans and still no Blackheart. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

Clave
May 11, 2007, 12:21 PM
I'm 0/100 now. /wrists

Hucast-Kireek
May 11, 2007, 03:57 PM
On 2007-05-10 23:59, Stixx wrote:
I would assume it's the same drop rate.



EDIT: people who have gotten the BH have told me that it appears quickly in S rank. Ive noticed the increased drop rate in other items too. do you think?....


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Hucast-Kireek
May 14, 2007, 09:10 PM
Man, Im tired of hunting this thing...I need to know if the drop rate is higher in S rank.

IM_Dizzy
May 22, 2007, 09:42 PM
yeah i still didnt get it havent seen darbelan since last time i posted.-_-' agrravating it is.

WolfBlade
Jun 13, 2007, 04:25 AM
Dude thx so much for da guide, I found mine only in one day, 12 spawn total

Garanz-Baranz
Jun 13, 2007, 06:56 AM
I want to know the dam Rare Map Appearance Ratio. T.T

Hucast-Kireek
Jun 13, 2007, 08:22 PM
On 2007-06-13 02:25, WolfBlade wrote:
Dude thx so much for da guide, I found mine only in one day, 12 spawn total



I hate you.

Synyster
Jun 18, 2007, 03:37 PM
Thanks for the guide, I found mine last night, 6th Darbelan out of 8 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Stefanhizzle
Jun 25, 2007, 10:38 AM
Is it true u can only see the Darbelans once a day??

Aileron
Jun 25, 2007, 03:01 PM
Probably not, since I got 2 rare maps in row once.

shotsfired
Jun 27, 2007, 10:46 AM
0 for 64...... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif . I no longer "hunt" but if we happen to be passing through to falkis, we may take a couple of extra minutes to find a rare map. I have officially given up...

SStrikerR
Jul 2, 2007, 10:00 AM
hunted for 10 mins on C, got to b2 on A, B, and C, (a few times on A) and guess what, in b2, either i got 5 god dam pannon, or a dilnazen on a jungashen.

but hey, im not gonna stop till i find 3, rofl, ill sell them all.

Forumchibi
Jul 7, 2007, 01:33 PM
Can someone please tell me where to find this mission? The people on the 4th floor were no help to me. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

EDIT: Nevermind... I thought that the Space Dock was actually another dock for Parum. Stupid illegible signs. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif



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CellarDoor
Jul 8, 2007, 08:53 PM
Does the item box for Black Heart look the same as other 7*+ items? The last rare map I got 2 Darbelans dropped Olpads and 1 dropped Copernia. I about had a heart attack each time those dropped thinking it was a Black Heart XD.

HFlowen
Jul 8, 2007, 09:13 PM
Black Heart is a 6* Unit. So it's a little blue shield looking box.

Almighty_Envy
Jul 8, 2007, 09:51 PM
I <3 your guide Stixx's.

First run i got Darbelon, after that 6 runs later i got em again. And now ive been dry for at least 100 runs http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

I havent been able to play in a while but i hope when i get back on i can get mah Black Heart http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

CellarDoor
Jul 8, 2007, 09:59 PM
On 2007-07-08 19:13, HFlowen wrote:
Black Heart is a 6* Unit. So it's a little blue shield looking box.



Oh ok, thanks.

Wallin
Jul 14, 2007, 03:14 AM
How rare are these maps? I've abandoned probably 30 missions now, and I have yet to even once see one of the X maps. Are Darbelans guaranteed to show up on the X maps?

P.S. - SEED Vance seem to take FOREVER to kill as a Force, any suggestions?


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Wallin
Jul 14, 2007, 03:44 AM
Err, can someone please verify the chart of the OP? On PSUPedia it says that for A-X Delsaban x3 + Delsaban x2 (large: dilnazen), but on the OP's chart it only says Delsaban x3 (large: dilnazen).

The only A variations I ever saw were for 3 followed by 2, and I kept abandoning every time because I thought it was the wrong one.

KTani
Jul 14, 2007, 08:15 AM
The OP only listed the spawns that matter. On that map, you either get 3 Delsabans first or 5 Pannons first. What spawns after them doesn't matter, except for the large enemy (which should be a Dilnazen). I get that map all the time, there are always 3 + 2 Delsabans and 4 + 3 Sendillians (I think that was the number) regardless of whether the large enemy is a Dilnazen or Jusnagun. You have to get to the first large enemy to know which map you have.

Thanks for the guide Stixx, it's been helpful. No Black Heart here yet, but the guide helped me memorize the maps http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Wallin
Jul 14, 2007, 11:46 AM
Ah, okay, thank you KTani http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

The_Big_Show
Jul 14, 2007, 05:44 PM
Stixx you are the man, only took me 3 days to find my black heart thanks to your guide. I guess im one of the lucky ones lol, thanks alot!


Oh and Wallin you may try any npc's or a PM to help you out since it doesnt matter if they die or not otherwise just keep casting and they'll die eventually, but you already know that I guess >_>

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Wallin
Jul 15, 2007, 02:40 AM
Oh, I didn't think about that this time. I was so frustrated trying to even get the right map to begin with that it slipped my mind. Thanks http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

So far I haven't seen a single rare spawn since Holy Light started, and out of over 100 tries on various maps have never seen the rare routes before, and can't find any exp groups to get to 35. Whatta waste of a week this is going to be. >_<

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KTani
Jul 15, 2007, 08:48 PM
I have a hard time just getting the Darbelans to show up. I seem to get them in about 1 in 100 runs. The most I've gotten is two spawns in one day. What's sad is I don't even want a Black Heart for myself, I just want to sell or trade it and get a Crea Doubles http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Para
Jul 15, 2007, 10:50 PM
On 2007-07-15 18:48, KTani wrote:
I have a hard time just getting the Darbelans to show up. I seem to get them in about 1 in 100 runs. The most I've gotten is two spawns in one day. What's sad is I don't even want a Black Heart for myself, I just want to sell or trade it and get a Crea Doubles http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

Me too I had 2 spawns today and I sorta gave up...

EDIT: Record number of Darbelans up to date: 28

lol something somewhat rare dropped from darbelans today.. a sword but useless sword


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The_Big_Show
Jul 17, 2007, 11:46 AM
Well it IS a rare map its mere luck that people get it so fast. Diligence is the key...DILIGENCE

Para
Jul 17, 2007, 12:10 PM
up to 32 darbelans now. 1 copernia 1 oplad and 2 meseta drops today.

HaydenX
Jul 17, 2007, 12:55 PM
About 240+ runs and still have yet to see a rare map. Boy oh boy is 3* luck useless. Still the only rare enemy I have ever seen was a rappy and that was in february.

Para
Jul 17, 2007, 01:52 PM
On 2007-07-17 10:55, HaydenX wrote:
About 240+ runs and still have yet to see a rare map. Boy oh boy is 3* luck useless. Still the only rare enemy I have ever seen was a rappy and that was in february.

takes me about 1hr+ interval before I see a rare map..

Vyre
Jul 17, 2007, 03:04 PM
Great guide, much help in many ways http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

Is it just my imagination or is this 3* luck hurting the black heart drop chances? Since the black heart is only a 6* B rank item and the other items are higher star rates, wouldn't it have an even harder time dropping? Just my thoughts but could be way off lol.

Either way, 48 Darbelans in 2 days (32 Copernia, 9 Olpads, 7 Meseta)

HaydenX
Jul 17, 2007, 03:21 PM
How in the hell did you only get 7 meseta /jk

Seriously though, why is it so damn difficult to even see a darbelan. I swear I dream about them / another jk.

They should make another hive mission where you have to pty it and break down a wall, you get a darbelan everytime. Like grinna bete S.

Para
Jul 17, 2007, 05:14 PM
Yeah I sorta wonder if the 3* is hurting it lol

but atleast you've seen more daberlans than me hehe


EDIT: up to 36 darbelans now.

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beatrixkiddo
Jul 20, 2007, 04:06 PM
Urgh. Been doing this forever, and I've only found B-X. A and C always ends up wrong http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Celticg
Jul 20, 2007, 06:06 PM
I finally found one on monday thanks to your guide. i was gonna buy one till i gave it a few more trys. thanks alot

Para
Jul 20, 2007, 06:23 PM
On 2007-07-20 16:06, Celticg wrote:
I finally found one on monday thanks to your guide. i was gonna buy one till i gave it a few more trys. thanks alot

How many daberlans did you demolish?

Wallin
Jul 20, 2007, 07:07 PM
You guys certainly have patience, I gave up after 2 hours, LOL.

beatrixkiddo
Jul 20, 2007, 08:38 PM
Well, HIVE on C is actually super easy for a low char. My Force was level 15 when I brought him there, using 5* Rods. With Leo and his GH432, they tear through the enemies, and it's decent exp. The mini-boss type enemies give a ton of exp, and the rest dies so quickly it's good exp.


edit: er, forgot to add my point, which is that it's not boring because I'm leveling up a char there anyway.


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HotokoHoshi
Jul 20, 2007, 08:47 PM
Argh, I never can get any of those maps!!!! This game hates me.....T^T But thank you for explaining it. Hopefully I will have more luck in the future.

Wallin
Jul 20, 2007, 10:48 PM
It's easy on C, yeah, but restarting the map three thousand times and fighting your way through block 1 only to be let down by block 2 over and over is definitely not a fun way to spend any evening. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

HaydenX
Jul 20, 2007, 11:02 PM
Exactly...I'm now up to over 500 runs/attempts
I still haven't seen a darbelan.

This is insane.
-_-*

HaydenX
Jul 21, 2007, 08:32 PM
Up at around 600 runs...I finally found my first darbelans...http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif
2 coppernia
378 Meseta...http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

HaydenX
Jul 23, 2007, 08:12 PM
My brother and I share an account ($5 a month each). He didn't even know about the black heart until 2 weeks ago. I had the chart printed out in a binder. He starts using it and on his 50th attempt...he gets a rare map...and 450 or so meseta...and a F---ing black heart. He's selling it in his shop right now. My main char is lvl 37...His is lvl 17. He is about to have more money than I ever have (he could probably buy everything I have twice over).

Para
Aug 6, 2007, 01:07 AM
*bump*

up to 40 daberlans now

1 meseta 1 wenceline and 2 copernia lol.

D1ABOLIK
Aug 6, 2007, 01:54 AM
On 2007-01-31 14:31, SolomonGrundy wrote:
can we get this stickied?

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Para
Aug 7, 2007, 08:30 AM
up to 44 daberlans..

2 meseta drops and 2 oplads.

Para
Aug 11, 2007, 07:24 PM
bump*

up to 48 daberlans...
2 meseta drops 1 oplad and 1 shitty weapon drop.

ZeL_of_Seals
Aug 12, 2007, 03:59 PM
Thx this will make it easier for me!

ZeL_of_Seals
Aug 12, 2007, 05:47 PM
On 2007-01-31 07:07, Dhylec wrote:
Nice! This should be helpful to those hunting for this new item.

actually Black heart is one of the oldest items. Its been around since the game came out

Para
Aug 13, 2007, 01:50 PM
On 2007-08-12 15:47, ZeL_of_Seals wrote:

On 2007-01-31 07:07, Dhylec wrote:
Nice! This should be helpful to those hunting for this new item.

actually Black heart is one of the oldest items. Its been around since the game came out

Try looking at the post date before saying that.

HaydenX
Aug 13, 2007, 02:38 PM
I'm up to 24 Darbelans with nothing but 4 copernia, 2 olpads, and a bunch of meseta to show for it. GAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*_*'

HaydenX
Aug 13, 2007, 07:17 PM
up to 28 darbelans....still no black heart (though this group of 4 dropped 3 copernias)

BTDEEZ
Aug 18, 2007, 05:26 AM
its all about luck when i searched for it witch was months ago it tuck 4 hours but took my friend 3 days so if you really need it just keep trying i'll help if you wanna run faster and all i want in return is the exp. but are the maps the same or did the rebalance change them if so i need to do some studying.....

darkante
Aug 18, 2007, 06:49 AM
I actually thought it would drop for after a week hunt for when i met the 20 darbelan would drop a thing which looked like a unit, it turned out to be a crappy sword. :S

I guess i must have the crappiest luck in rare searching. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Midknight
Aug 24, 2007, 07:17 PM
Wow, thank you so much for putting the chart and explaining it. I did like 200 runs so far and found 4 Darbelans, which is equivelent to about 1 rare map. XD. So, I guesss Blackheart is really worth it. (30mil)

BTDEEZ
Aug 26, 2007, 12:27 AM
is it really 30mil when i found it it was like 800k that was 7 months ago wow i need to get another one then i can finally buy that blackbull for 36MIL why is it that fricken high

Para
Aug 26, 2007, 05:17 AM
Stoooopid sega.... I had a rare spawn map and killed 1 daberlan and was about to kill the other until the server disconnected me cuz sega cant maintain their servers properly -_-

up to 49 dead debarlans (reality is i shouldve been up to 52 -_-)

dropped meseta

BTDEEZ
Aug 26, 2007, 05:33 AM
wow that has to burn on the inside will you still be looking in a couple of hours

Arika
Aug 26, 2007, 07:10 AM
still people hunting this item ? even now !?

BTDEEZ
Aug 26, 2007, 07:28 AM
i know it almost makes me want to start looking again

Midknight
Aug 26, 2007, 11:26 AM
Is it really only worth 800k? Cause i saw it in a shop for 28mil. And the next day it was gone.....

Midknight
Aug 26, 2007, 11:28 AM
Oh ya, and no-one is getting 3* luck anymore, so people can't even find it. o_o

HaydenX
Aug 26, 2007, 12:25 PM
Now up to 36 darbelans...NO F******* Black Heart. yay.

Para
Aug 26, 2007, 06:51 PM
up to 53(56) daberlans killed now

1 acenaline 1 oplad and 2 sword drops.

HaydenX
Aug 27, 2007, 01:36 AM
On 2007-08-26 16:51, Para wrote:
up to 53(56) daberlans killed now

1 acenaline 1 oplad and 2 sword drops.



wtf is with 53(56)? Did you lose three because of dc or something?

O.k. I guess I can't complain that much then. Out of my 36 darbelans, I got:
7 copernia
1 olpad
2 swords
1 upteline
and a bunch of meseta.

Para
Aug 27, 2007, 10:18 PM
yeah i lost 3 to dc so im just tracking how much daberlans ive gotten as well

Para
Aug 28, 2007, 11:45 PM
*bump*
57(60) daberlans now.

3 meseta and 1 copernia.

Para
Aug 30, 2007, 08:10 PM
*bump*
61(64) daberlans now.

2 copernia, 1 weapon and 1 meseta drop.

Para
Aug 30, 2007, 09:51 PM
Oh and again... 65(68).

1 Copernia, 2 oplad and 1 meseta drop



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HaydenX
Aug 30, 2007, 10:38 PM
Up to 44 Darbelans now...of the 8 new ones...I got 1 olpad, 1 meseta drop...AND NOTHING ELSE!!!

Para
Aug 30, 2007, 11:02 PM
lol 3rd rare map today 69(72)

1 copernia 1 oplad and 2 meseta drops.

Oh btw... have you seen the rare B map variation lately? ALl the ones ive seen recently have been either A or C.

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Para
Aug 30, 2007, 11:40 PM
Oh scrap the last question about the B variation... just found it XD

73(76)

4 meseta drops.

Para
Aug 31, 2007, 12:58 AM
... lol 5th daberlan spawn of the day... what a wild ride

2 meseta 1 copernia and 1 oplad drop.

Para
Aug 31, 2007, 09:42 PM
Note: for this spawn... I found daberlans at SEED Awakened, NOT Dark Satelite.

81(84)

2 copernia 1 oplad and 1 meseta.

Para
Aug 31, 2007, 10:38 PM
this one too found at SEED awakened.
85(88)

2 oplad and 2 meseta drops.

Para
Aug 31, 2007, 11:40 PM
this one was on S2..
89(92)

2 copernia and 2 meseta drops.

Para
Sep 2, 2007, 05:16 AM
93(96)
2meseta 1 megi photon and 1 copernia.

omegatheory
Sep 2, 2007, 06:55 PM
First run i did for these guys... got the Blackheart, but went to my friend... it was funny cause he was trying to teach me the rare spawns, and boom he got a BH after 3 months of waiting.

HaydenX
Sep 2, 2007, 08:19 PM
On 2007-09-02 16:55, omegatheory wrote:
First run i did for these guys... got the Blackheart, but went to my friend... it was funny cause he was trying to teach me the rare spawns, and boom he got a BH after 3 months of waiting.



u gotta be f***ing kidding me!

I've been hunting this thing since I learned about it. My bro. got it on his first spawn too. I hate that damn mission soooo much. I am so sick of it. I need some goddamn money though. I just ran out of money again. The most money I've had at one point was 700k (a few sales incl. 5 A+10 grinders). I need money.

SuperChoco
Sep 2, 2007, 10:04 PM
Wow! 8 months and this thread is still on the front cover of the forums. I consider this should be a sticky.

HaydenX
Sep 3, 2007, 12:43 AM
Welll...we need a place to bitch about how rare an item you can get at level 1 is.

guise709
Sep 5, 2007, 02:29 AM
yeah this very useful now i hope i get black heart on my first endounter with these darbelan.

Hamha109
Sep 5, 2007, 06:29 PM
I thought the Black Heart didnt' spawn anymore?

Hakoten
Sep 8, 2007, 12:19 AM
On 2007-09-05 16:29, Hamha109 wrote:
I thought the Black Heart didnt' spawn anymore?



I sure hope it does. I don't want ot keep running this for no reason. x.x

SStrikerR
Sep 8, 2007, 02:32 PM
it does still spawn, why the hell wouldnt it?
i saw a team get one yesterday.

i havent gotten one and ive seen 12 so far.

HaydenX
Sep 9, 2007, 01:59 AM
Up to 60 darbelans w/ no black heart.

DaWaffleMan
Sep 14, 2007, 02:03 PM
umm did they take this out or is it still there?

lllllllllllll
Sep 15, 2007, 08:58 PM
Hi, does anyone know what the right spawn is to get a black heart if you do, post here please.

SStrikerR
Sep 15, 2007, 08:59 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=134167&forum=22&143

Niloklives
Sep 16, 2007, 08:55 AM
it should also be noted that the black heart is an elusive unit. whil eyou may get luck and get it on your first try it could also take hundreds of times killing the rare spawns to get just one of them. just don't go in expecting to get a BH just because you get the rare map.

RedCoKid
Sep 16, 2007, 05:42 PM
For the A-X variation, can you cancel any map in which 2 additional delsaban spawn after the first 3 to have a 100% chance of getting the darbelan (i.e., you don't need to check the second block)?

Para
Sep 18, 2007, 12:07 AM
been awhile since I hunted...

97(100) darbelans.

2 meseta and 2 copernia.

As for the A-x variation, you must check the large monster (Dilnazen) for block 1 and check for 3 pannon in block 2.

Para
Sep 21, 2007, 11:57 PM
woo 101(104) darbelans killed.

2 meseta, 1 wenceline and 1 aporaline. Man thats pretty bad if I dont even get copernia or oplad.

Stixx
Oct 15, 2007, 06:28 AM
To those who have found it, congratulations.

To those still looking, keep at it. You'll find it eventually http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Sorry if I haven't been around to address any questions you all may have had, I've been busy with family/school/work.

I'll be sure to check back more often if anyone has anymore questions.

Happy Hunting~

TranceZiggy
Oct 17, 2007, 11:48 AM
Yeeeaahhh..

Hunted that damn thing for 3 months straight.

Found nothing http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_eek.gif. I gave up n.n

Broodstar1337
Dec 10, 2007, 12:02 AM
An hour and a half of non-stop C runs and not even as much a rare map. I hope ST burns in hell for this cruel joke.

XxKitexX
Dec 12, 2007, 02:48 PM
*shrug* Hunted these doods for two hours one day...Managed to get two finds of Darbelans, but the best I got was a Soda Gigassa. I'm still happy to see Darbelans at least, and I'm not gonna lose hope! Great guide. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

Haruhila
Dec 13, 2007, 01:51 AM
I wonder if this is actually worth it. Sure it would look nice, but its tempting to just pay inflated prices for it.

RedRaz0r
Dec 13, 2007, 02:26 AM
If i find one of those things, im hella going to sell it and put that money towards a psycho wand! I like the looks of puyoment aura better and their cheaper and have a bigger bonus. Anyways, I got the B-X variant of the map and they werent in block 3...it was really depressing. I looked back over the guide at lease 10 times to make sure I did it right. I was sad =(

Para
Jan 12, 2008, 05:52 PM
Old demons resolved...
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z233/ParaAyane/PSU/finallybh.jpg

Rainu
Jan 14, 2008, 01:52 AM
Grats, Para. It should drop from them on any rank, right?

Para
Jan 21, 2008, 12:31 PM
yeah any rank since i found it on S rank.

Battlestar
Mar 20, 2008, 05:20 PM
i'm going to begin my hunt for the BH... can someone clarify that the image http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v484/scottkuda/PSU%20shots/RareSpawnChart-SatelliteofDarkness.jpg is still correct to this day? so I don't go wasting my time :E

thanks

SStrikerR
Mar 20, 2008, 07:55 PM
what a nice bump =)

Yes it still drops. it's like a saber, it will NEVER stop dropping there once it started.
God why do people think it would be taken away?

Battlestar
Mar 20, 2008, 08:59 PM
I never said does it still drop, I am asking if the spawn chart is still correct.

get a clue.

SStrikerR
Mar 20, 2008, 09:26 PM
On 2008-03-20 18:59, Battlestar wrote:
I never said does it still drop, I am asking if the spawn chart is still correct.

get a clue.

LOL get a clue? Well make your questions clearer then. And also, do you REALLY think ST changes the maps and shit like that? They are so fucking lazy they reskin bosses 24/7 now, let alone do something stupid such as changing rare spawns.
Welcome to Pso-W [edit]!

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Catalystic
Mar 21, 2008, 10:39 AM
Pre AOTI I found 2 black hearts in 3 days of casual hunting.....now I can't even get as much as a rare map after hundreds of runs!



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Astarin
Mar 23, 2008, 01:58 PM
On 2008-03-20 19:26, Ryan113 wrote:
And also, do you REALLY think ST changes the maps and shit like that?


Actually, yes, they can and have changed some spawn charts in the past. It's a valid inquiry.

To answer the original question, these charts should still be correct. I don't believe that any HIVE missions have had charts adjusted, and they weren't included in that mission "rebalance" way back in the day.

Battlestar
Mar 24, 2008, 04:02 AM
On 2008-03-21 08:39, Catalystic wrote:
Pre AOTI I found 2 black hearts in 3 days of casual hunting.....now I can't even get as much as a rare map after hundreds of runs!



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I've so far had a single Darbelan map out of about 100, and my brother is doing it next to me on his character too (he has yet to see any).

Is it possible to chances to get a rare map could have been adjusted, has this been known to happen?

Does having any Photon Fortune increase your chance to get a rare map?