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Fearthewolf
Feb 7, 2007, 03:58 PM
Well, I noticed awhile ago that this particular PA was missing when the second batch of PAs came in a US update. Is the single claw the only one without a second "normal" PA? Is this particular claw skill missing from the JP version? Any word if this will end up being an ultimate PA?

ayrista
Feb 7, 2007, 04:04 PM
This is Ult pa , i think its 50 pa frags.

Zorafim
Feb 7, 2007, 04:55 PM
It's only 50? Good, I want to get it on my fortefighter, so I know I won't spend too much time farming for it.

Only 200 PA fragments left to get everything I want...

Fearthewolf
Feb 7, 2007, 11:50 PM
Well i'll be darned, I didn't remember seeing that on the chart the last time I looked!

Kimil
Feb 7, 2007, 11:52 PM
So there are only 2 Single Claw PAs?

Zorafim
Feb 8, 2007, 03:37 AM
I have a few things on my list of things to farm PAs for, so I'd like to know before hand if this PA is even any good. Is it better than the storebought PA, or is it just flashy?

ayrista
Feb 8, 2007, 09:32 AM
the second claw pa in this video is the Ultimate PA im pretty sure.
looks kinda fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWMrj_MG1gI

A2K
Feb 8, 2007, 10:48 AM
I believe it's the one GH-420 (cat ears) uses as well.

OdinTyler
Feb 8, 2007, 11:25 AM
Yes, 420 uses it & so does Tonnio. Offline, you get it from him. Online, isnt it available already???

Rashiid
Feb 8, 2007, 02:53 PM
the claw only has 2 (far as i knoe)
the ultimate PA for it is actually 75 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

but, the sinlge dagger only has 2 PAs also, idk about any ultimate single dagger PA

same for axe.....

A2K
Feb 8, 2007, 02:58 PM
On 2007-02-08 11:53, Rashiid wrote:
the claw only has 2 (far as i knoe)
the ultimate PA for it is actually 75 http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

The ultimate skill for single claws, Sentan Kanzan-ga, costs only 50. You probably have it confused with the double claw skill, Rensen Senshou-ga, which does require 75.

Rashiid
Feb 8, 2007, 03:01 PM
really?

*checks recent post on cost of PA frags...*

O *smacks head* DUH ME!

lol

Zorafim
Feb 8, 2007, 03:54 PM
This still begs the question. Is it any good?

Schubalts
Feb 8, 2007, 04:36 PM
Single dagger has 3 PAs...

OdinTyler
Feb 10, 2007, 03:50 PM
What are these PA frags I keep hearing about? Cant you just go to a store & buy a PA or earn it by S ranking a mission?

redcell
Feb 10, 2007, 05:22 PM
The second one is correct, OdinTyler =) They are obtained from recieving S rank in an S rank mission. Collect these frags to obtain the new photon arts! They can be switched between characters [your own, not sure about other people's characters], but not sold in shop =)

Alisha
Feb 11, 2007, 03:24 AM
senten kanzan ga is easily one of the worst pa's in the game. it's nothing more than eye candy. it's possibly worse than the second single dagger pa

OdinTyler
Feb 13, 2007, 10:37 AM
But what are these frag items? Youre telling me you have to get some kind of item just to get your 2nd PA online? LOL Id rather S rank a mission to get them (or hell, buy them). Youd think playing offline first, youd get a break with being able to buy them online. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

Neith
Feb 13, 2007, 10:41 AM
On 2007-02-11 00:24, Alisha wrote:
senten kanzan ga is easily one of the worst pa's in the game. it's nothing more than eye candy. it's possibly worse than the second single dagger pa



Shunbu Shouren-zan? That PA is great after lv11, heh. I'll be getting Senten Kanzen-ga because it looks cool. I could care less if it IS good.

I personally hate Spinning Break, but everyone else seems to love it. It doesn't even look good http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

omegapirate2k
Feb 13, 2007, 10:49 AM
I like the first claw PA, I'm going to stick with it.

ljkkjlcm9
Feb 13, 2007, 10:52 AM
On 2007-02-13 07:37, OdinTyler wrote:
But what are these frag items? Youre telling me you have to get some kind of item just to get your 2nd PA online? LOL Id rather S rank a mission to get them (or hell, buy them). Youd think playing offline first, youd get a break with being able to buy them online. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif


Most weapons have 2 PAs you can buy from the store... all except the single claw. So for most of them it's a third PA that you need to collect PA frags for by S-ranking, S missions.

THE JACKEL

MegaBUD
Feb 13, 2007, 10:58 AM
the "normal" single claw PA is very good against 1 target... the ultimate look nice http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

ayrista
Feb 13, 2007, 11:10 AM
On 2007-02-10 12:50, OdinTyler wrote:
What are these PA frags I keep hearing about? Cant you just go to a store & buy a PA or earn it by S ranking a mission?



PA fragments are items you can get when you get S rank, on S rank missions. There are certain PA/Bullet/Techs you can get only with pa frags. (not out yet) here is a pretty good chart someone made:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b237/SapphireLament/UltimateArts.jpg

Pure-chan
Feb 13, 2007, 04:54 PM
nm, see below http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif


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Almalexia
Feb 13, 2007, 05:04 PM
Buten Shoren-zan is the first single dagger PA with the knockdown move on the first string. She is talking about the single dagger PA that Ethan only has access to in offline mode. Shouren-something-zan. It's like Bonga Zubba; a windup "pitch".

Zorafim
Feb 13, 2007, 05:30 PM
What are the stats on this PA, anyway? I'll assume the first move is two hits that target two enemies (maybe with a knockdown on the second), then the last hit targets three enemies with a knockback. With those stats, the damage modifier would have to be rather large to be comparable to other single handed PAs, but I really do hope it's something useful (it's the only single weapon that fortefighters can use and still have an S rank on that doesn't look silly).

Tiyr
Feb 13, 2007, 05:39 PM
On 2007-02-11 00:24, Alisha wrote:
senten kanzan ga is easily one of the worst pa's in the game. it's nothing more than eye candy. it's possibly worse than the second single dagger pa



Your opinion lost all credibility when you said the second dagger PA is one of the worst in the game.

Yeah, it's completely worthless to be able to almost indefinitely juggle a whole group of enemies.

Almalexia
Feb 13, 2007, 05:58 PM
^sure, and no body else will be able to attack them? What good is that.

Pure-chan
Feb 13, 2007, 07:36 PM
On 2007-02-13 14:58, Almalexia wrote:
^sure, and no body else will be able to attack them? What good is that.



^ The 2nd dagger PA is really nice on big, lumbering moatoob dinosaurs (kog nadd & fire lizard thingy) and the moatoob Grinna. It rocks on worms, too. It's a very good stun PA for all of the enemies that get rooted by popup moves, instead of launched skyward. Check it out when you get a sec. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif


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