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FUFME
Apr 1, 2007, 07:19 PM
The majority of people I know who play PSU smoke weed.

Who's responsible for ths propaganda bullshit? Gamespy or it's part of some pop-up package that just comes part of the Ad's ?

All im gonna say is Fuck Corporate America and our lying Government.



Top 10 Marijuana Studies Our Government Wished it Had Never Funded


10) MARIJUANA USE HAS NO EFFECT ON MORTALITY: A massive study of California HMO members funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) found marijuana use caused no significant increase in mortality. Tobacco use was associated with increased risk of death. Sidney, S et al. Marijuana Use and Mortality. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 87 No. 4, April 1997. p. 585-590. Sept. 2002.

9) HEAVY MARIJUANA USE AS A YOUNG ADULT WON'T RUIN YOUR LIFE: Veterans Affairs scientists looked at whether heavy marijuana use as a young adult caused long-term problems later, studying identical twins in which one twin had been a heavy marijuana user for a year or longer but had stopped at least one month before the study, while the second twin had used marijuana no more than five times ever. Marijuana use had no significant impact on physical or mental health care utilization, health-related quality of life, or current socio-demographic characteristics. Eisen SE et al. Does Marijuana Use Have Residual Adverse Effects on Self-Reported Health Measures, Socio-Demographics or Quality of Life? A Monozygotic Co-Twin Control Study in Men. Addiction. Vol. 97 No. 9. p.1083-1086. Sept. 1997

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cool.gif THE "GATEWAY EFFECT" MAY BE A MIRAGE: Marijuana is often called a "gateway drug" by supporters of prohibition, who point to statistical "associations" indicating that persons who use marijuana are more likely to eventually try hard drugs than those who never use marijuana — implying that marijuana use somehow causes hard drug use. But a model developed by RAND Corp. researcher Andrew Morral demonstrates that these associations can be explained "without requiring a gateway effect." More likely, this federally funded study suggests, some people simply have an underlying propensity to try drugs, and start with what's most readily available. Morral AR, McCaffrey D and Paddock S. Reassessing the Marijuana Gateway Effect. Addiction. December 2002. p. 1493-1504.

7) PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK (PART I): The White House had the National Research Council examine the data being gathered about drug use and the effects of U.S. drug policies. NRC concluded, "the nation possesses little information about the effectiveness of current drug policy, especially of drug law enforcement." And what data exist show "little apparent relationship between severity of sanctions prescribed for drug use and prevalence or frequency of use." In other words, there is no proof that prohibition — the cornerstone of U.S. drug policy for a century — reduces drug use. National Research Council. Informing America's Policy on Illegal Drugs: What We Don't Know Keeps Hurting Us. National Academy Press, 2001. p. 193.

6) PROHIBITION DOESN'T WORK (PART II: DOES PROHIBITION CAUSE THE "GATEWAY EFFECT"?): U.S. and Dutch researchers, supported in part by NIDA, compared marijuana users in San Francisco, where non-medical use remains illegal, to Amsterdam, where adults may possess and purchase small amounts of marijuana from regulated businesses. Looking at such parameters as frequency and quantity of use and age at onset of use, they found no differences except one: Lifetime use of hard drugs was significantly lower in Amsterdam, with its "tolerant" marijuana policies. For example, lifetime crack cocaine use was 4.5 times higher in San Francisco than Amsterdam. Reinarman, C, Cohen, PDA, and Kaal, HL. The Limited Relevance of Drug Policy: Cannabis in Amsterdam and San Francisco. American Journal of Public Health. Vol. 94, No. 5. May 2004. p. 836-842.

5) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART I): Federal researchers implanted several types of cancer, including leukemia and lung cancers, in mice, then treated them with cannabinoids (unique, active components found in marijuana). THC and other cannabinoids shrank tumors and increased the mice's lifespans. Munson, AE et al. Antineoplastic Activity of Cannabinoids. Journal of the National Cancer Institute. Sept. 1975. p. 597-602.

4) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER, (PART II): In a 1994 study the government tried to suppress, federal researchers gave mice and rats massive doses of THC, looking for cancers or other signs of toxicity. The rodents given THC lived longer and had fewer cancers, "in a dose-dependent manner" (i.e. the more THC they got, the fewer tumors). NTP Technical Report On The Toxicology And Carcinogenesis Studies Of 1-Trans- Delta-9-Tetrahydrocannabinol, CAS No. 1972-08-3, In F344/N Rats And B6C3F(1) Mice, Gavage Studies. See also, "Medical Marijuana: Unpublished Federal Study Found THC-Treated Rats Lived Longer, Had Less Cancer," AIDS Treatment News no. 263, Jan. 17, 1997.

3) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART III): Researchers at the Kaiser-Permanente HMO, funded by NIDA, followed 65,000 patients for nearly a decade, comparing cancer rates among non-smokers, tobacco smokers, and marijuana smokers. Tobacco smokers had massively higher rates of lung cancer and other cancers. Marijuana smokers who didn't also use tobacco had no increase in risk of tobacco-related cancers or of cancer risk overall. In fact their rates of lung and most other cancers were slightly lower than non-smokers, though the difference did not reach statistical significance. Sidney, S. et al. Marijuana Use and Cancer Incidence (California, United States). Cancer Causes and Control. Vol. 8. Sept. 1997, p. 722-728.

2) OOPS, MARIJUANA MAY PREVENT CANCER (PART IV): Donald Tashkin, a UCLA researcher whose work is funded by NIDA, did a case-control study comparing 1,200 patients with lung, head and neck cancers to a matched group with no cancer. Even the heaviest marijuana smokers had no increased risk of cancer, and had somewhat lower cancer risk than non-smokers (tobacco smokers had a 20-fold increased lung cancer risk). Tashkin D. Marijuana Use and Lung Cancer: Results of a Case-Control Study. American Thoracic Society International Conference. May 23, 2006.

1) MARIJUANA DOES HAVE MEDICAL VALUE: In response to passage of California's medical marijuana law, the White House had the Institute of Medicine (IOM) review the data on marijuana's medical benefits and risks. The IOM concluded, "Nausea, appetite loss, pain and anxiety are all afflictions of wasting, and all can be mitigated by marijuana." While noting potential risks of smoking, the report added, "we acknowledge that there is no clear alternative for people suffering from chronic conditions that might be relieved by smoking marijuana, such as pain or AIDS wasting." The government's refusal to acknowledge this finding caused co-author John A. Benson to tell the New York Times that the government "loves to ignore our report … they would rather it never happened." Joy, JE, Watson, SJ, and Benson, JA. Marijuana and Medicine: Assessing the Science Base. National Academy Press. 1999. p. 159. See also, Harris, G. FDA Dismisses Medical Benefit From Marijuana. New York Times. Apr. 21, 2006

Weeaboolits
Apr 1, 2007, 07:56 PM
First off, PSOW doesn't control the ads, second off I don't think the staff here would approve of this.
Marijuna is ILLEGAL.

Kimil
Apr 1, 2007, 08:15 PM
Hmmm, So, Why's Marijiuna illegal in your USA anyways?

My view on pot (not a pot smoker myself):
- What ever floats your boat
- Its not nearly as bad for you as Meth, Cocain, X... Alcohol and Cigs
- I does help against Cancer, a positive thing

But really, WHY is it illegal in the USA? What reasons are there other than That guy who got impeached?... what was his name... Nixon!

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DikkyRay
Apr 1, 2007, 08:19 PM
On 2007-04-01 18:15, Kimil wrote:
Hmmm, So, Why's Marijiuna illegal in your USA anyways?

My view on pot (not a pot smoker myself):
- What ever floats your boat
- Its not nearly as bad for you as Meth, Cocain, X... Alcohol and Cigs
- I does help against Cancer, a positive thing




well firs off
THE PEOPLE HERE WHO DO POT DO STUPID THINGS
IT IS ILLEGAL
99%OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT DO IT TO GET HIGH
in my "USA" Pot is illegal for a good reason. I for one like seeing those ads because ppl that do pot are retarded

Kimil
Apr 1, 2007, 08:28 PM
I'd rather have the pot heads who are not so smart doing pot,
than stupid people doing Meth, Cocain or X

A lot of ppl I know who do it do pot for the same reason we drink underage: people tell us not to ( again, i don't smoke up). If itwere made legal, a lot of potheads would find it less fun because it would no longer be somethign they are told not to do, and do it less. I noticed that my friends who have turned 18 have stopped drinking every weekend for the same reason: its legal for them now and not against the rules anymore and therefore, to their minds, not fun.

and Id also rather have them smoking pot to get high than drinking to get wasted and die from Alcohol poisoning. ( or replace alcohol with Meth, Coke, X etc... )


On 2007-04-01 18:19, DikkyRay wrote:

well firs off
THE PEOPLE HERE WHO DO POT DO STUPID THINGS
IT IS ILLEGAL
99%OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT DO IT TO GET HIGH
in my "USA" Pot is illegal for a good reason. I for one like seeing those ads because ppl that do pot are retarded



70% of stistics are made up on the spot http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif and ... why all the capital letters?



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Obscenity
Apr 1, 2007, 08:34 PM
Marijuana mainly continues to be prohibited because of the alcohol, tobacco, and plastics industries. Philip-Morris and Anheuser-Busch are two of the biggest contributors to anti-drug advertising campaigns. Tell me that's not a conflict of interest. The plastics industry fears the cultivation of hemp because more durable replacements for plastics can be made more cheaply from hemp fibers. Don't believe everything you read, or everything your government tells you.


On 2007-04-01 18:19, DikkyRay wrote:

well firs off
THE PEOPLE HERE WHO DO POT DO STUPID THINGS
IT IS ILLEGAL
99%OF THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT DO IT TO GET HIGH
in my "USA" Pot is illegal for a good reason. I for one like seeing those ads because ppl that do pot are retarded



Only 99%? What other reason is there? And people who get drunk do stupid things too, but that's still legal. Completely sober people do stupid things as well. Why not just outlaw people, and then nobody will every do anything stupid.

Edit: This should probably be in Rants.



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FUFME
Apr 1, 2007, 08:52 PM
I didnt put it in rants cuz this is site related.

Marijuana is illegal soley due to Political reason. Not to health risks or the saftey of children, that's what the government wants you to believe.

People who drink alcohol can be a@@holes, but there are still a majority of people who dont drink and are still a@@holes.

Everything in life is not for everyone. Peanutbutter and other natural things can actually kill some people.

If used responsibly, Marijuana is one of the safest substance known to man.

Ive been to Amsterdam where it's Legal and it's perfect living there. Drivers are not running over people or driving into the gully stream what have you.

Ketchup345
Apr 1, 2007, 08:59 PM
As far as I know the ad has no reason to be removed, since it isn't annoying (in that it isn't auto expanding in size or has sound) and does not violate any of our rules.

Incorrect info is a fairly large part of advertising sadly.

Dre_o
Apr 1, 2007, 09:04 PM
1) Do know who helps sponsor PSOW? Gamespy. Does Gamespy want people smoking pot? No.

See? That simple. Deal with it.

2) You may say: "Oh just let the pot smokers be stoned, it doesn't effect me." But ya know what? Murphy's Law says (in a round about way) that that 1 pot smoker who decides to drive while high (because pot could be legal mind you), will hit you or a family member of yours, killing that person and destroying their body.

Wouldn't be too into the legal use of marijuana then, would you? OH WAIT! OF COURSE NOT!! YOU'D BE DEAD

Not much fun or good for you then hmm?

Jesus people, get over your little teenage, wannabe rapper selves and deal with it.

Quick side note: This REALLY doesn't need to be here. There's little any Mod or even Tommeeboy can do about it.

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Kimil
Apr 1, 2007, 09:29 PM
On 2007-04-01 19:04, Dre_o wrote:


2) You may say: "Oh just let the pot smokers be stoned, it doesn't effect me." But ya know what? Murphy's Law says (in a round about way) that that 1 pot smoker who decides to drive while high (because pot could be legal mind you), will hit you or a family member of yours, killing that person and destroying their body.



PLease, by this logic, Outlaw the following:

- Alcohol
- Cell Phones
- Angry people




Jesus people, get over your little teenage, wannabe rapper selves and deal with it.

Omg, I'mma teenager! Therefore I'mma Rapper? XD



Quick side note: This REALLY doesn't need to be here. There's little any Mod or even Tommeeboy can do about it.

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Maybe not in site related ( anymore anyways ) but why do we always lock/delete threads when people start debating?



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Ketchup345
Apr 1, 2007, 10:21 PM
If you want to debate about why marijuana should be legal/illegal, please make a thread in Off Topic. This thread belongs in 3 different forums at once by the looks of it (Site Related - asking for removal of ad, Rants - ranting against the info in the ads, and Off Topic - debate).

If you wish to continue this, please make a thread specifically for debating this issue in Off Topic. Please make sure the thread stays on topic there.