Cartoons vs. Anime

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

Which do you like better:

Cartoons:
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j158/edzo67/homer_beer.jpg

Or Anime:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/HyugaNeji_Fan/Anime%20Stuff/Kenflap.gif

[concussionman]

Cartoons

Matt Groening is a comic genius.

[Moo2u]

Cartoons. As great as some animes are, it's much easier to get into a good cartoon then it is to hop on board an anime.

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

U like this flash animation?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a304/HyugaNeji_Fan/Anime%20Stuff/Kenflap.gif

[DikkyRay]

I prefer anime.
As much as i like cartoons, IMO Simpsons could be better. Ctoon Network is great, old cartoons are the best.
But anime is new and exciting. So much prettier.
Plus Anime is nice because 9/10 times it is not on tv, while cartoons are on everyday.
And Dr, Just got both Volumes of Rurouni Kenshin, almost thru with vol 1 XD Glad ya chose those gifs, Kenshin is among the best there is

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

On 2007-04-03 16:25, DikkyRay wrote:
I prefer anime.
As much as i like cartoons, IMO Simpsons could be better. Ctoon Network is great, old cartoons are the best.
But anime is new and exciting. So much prettier.
Plus Anime is nice because 9/10 times it is not on tv, while cartoons are on everyday.
And Dr, Just got both Volumes of Rurouni Kenshin, almost thru with vol 1 XD Glad ya chose those gifs, Kenshin is among the best there is

I LOVE THE SERIES TOO!!! Of course the manga is SOOOOOOOOOOO much better than the Tv series because the people cant pronounce anything right even if their lives depended on it. YOU STILL DIDNT ANSWER MY QUESTION! DO YOU LIKE THESE FLASH ANIMATIONS OR NOT?

[FOAtHeart]

Anime = Cartoons

[bigsang]

anime all the way!!!

[Sinue_v2]

Anime is just cartoons.

If you're asking weither or not I like western animated drama and comedy more than eastern, then yes - on the whole, I like western animation better. Eastern animation tends to do more drama and more adult material - such as Hellsing, Ghost in the Shell, Elfen Lied, Cowboy Bebop, ect which I enjoy. Western animation doesn't do as well here - with a few exceptions, like SPAWN, Heavy Metal, or that one Riddick cartoon. Pirates of Dark Water kicked ass as well, even though it wasn't really adult oriented.

In the Comedy department, I like western animation a lot more. While FMP:FUMOFU, Mahoromatic, FLCL, Ippatu Kikimusame, ect, are all very good - they just can't stand up to the awesomeness of Futurama, Family Guy, Drawn Together, Sealab 2021, ATHF (on ocassion), and expecially South Park.

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

I have something to say to you, cartoons:
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w106/Dr_Montague/Served.jpg

[Retehi]

I'm not a fan of every other "lets try and be funny like South Park!" 'comedy' cartoon these days. I prefer watching stuff from early/mid 90's done by Warner Bros., or Disney.

And anime is just not my thing, bleh.

[Retehi]

What?

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

GRRRRRRRRRRAAAAWWWR! ITS YOU AGAIN!

[concussionman]

Animaniacs were the shit, and nothing beats a cheap laugh, and at the end its all back to where it was. I prefer my toons to not have to take 8 episodes to get to the point either.

[VIRIDIA_HUNTER]

...never mind...

[VioletSkye]

never liked anime so I choose western animation.

[EphekZ]

Cartoons. Most anime has the same story or does the same shit. and like concussion man mentioned, taking 10 episodes to do one thing is just fucking annoying. those animes with like 100+ episodes are just annoying. the only good animes are the short ones with like 26 episodes. good animes that come to mind; Cowboy bebop(26 episodes), samurai champloo(26 episodes), FLCL( 6 episodes). these all ended perfectly and didn't need anything else to explain. on the other hand crap like naruto is like on it's 200th(?) episodes or something? That's just ridiculous.

[chaos89]

anime all the way

[Eihwaz]

On 2007-04-03 16:33, FOAtHeart wrote:
Anime = Cartoons


Quoted for fuckin' truth.

That being said, I like animation in general. Be it from Japan (Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, etc), America (Chuck Jones is a god), and elsewhere, animation is good fun.

[Jive18]

The miniscule amount of Eastern animation I've seen (Akira, Spirited Away) was excellent, but I'm still biased towards Western animation (Aqua Teen, so on and so forth).

[CupOfCoffee]

Western cartoons by far. Anime just ain't my cup o' tea.

[Flwl3ssCowboy]

I broke the 7/7 tie http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

also for the most part i agree with Sinue V2
to me, western toons like the ones he mentioned are funnier than eastern toons whereas those tend to have better action (even if it just HAS to be DBZ styled D:)
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[Shiro_Ryuu]

I'm quite an anime lover, although there are some good western cartoons, like Family Guy, American Dad, Transformers, and Thunder Cats. There are a few good 100+ episode anime like Naruto, Bleach, and Fist of the North Star, but I do love the 26 ep stuff the best, like someone else posted earlier. Hell, there are also 13 ep stuff too, and OVAs that are even shorter.

[Moo2u]

So far anime has the most votes, but I think more people posting said talked about western style animation.
I want anime lovers to back their vote up, damn it!

[Skett]

My choice heavily depends on what I'm in the mood for. I'd never look to Western cartoons for more mature or sophisticated stories and characters, and that's why I like anime. Likewise, no anime can compare to The Simpsons, Family Guy, or Futurama when it comes to comedy.

[Schubalts]

Where's the option for "I like both equally"? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Turambar]

Depends on what I'm in the mood for. Some laughs results in me turning on something like the Simpsons. If I'm in the mood for something with an actual plot and development, I'd go with anime. Of course, there are cartoons and anime that try to go in the other direction than their norm, but those are far and inbetween (and not exactly good more often than not imo)

[Solstis]

I propose that Futurama is actually pretty dark and sophisticated (the episode with the dog or the one with the clover, for example).

Japanese animation is generally just good at making you feel cool for watching it. Like: "That animation sequence was so awesome! Awesome people watch awesome things! I am awesome!" I fall for this all the time. It's cool.

Why do people like FLCL? It was like some weird parody of Western pop culture/Eastern anime, and not a very good one at that. Really neat the first time I saw it, but it's unredeemably stupid most of the time. And not even smart stupid. Dumb stupid.

[SubstanceD]

Sorry guys but I prefer Anime to westrn cartoons. I pretty much grew up on Anime and that obsession hasn't gone away as I got older.

[amtalx]

I've kind of left cartoons in the dust. As far as im concerned, anime is just a cartoon with more adult themes and better visual detail.

[Ash1ey]

Cartoons, by far.

Used to be in to anime, still am to a very little extent, mainly just watching the ones that I alrady knew I liked when I was younger, like Outlaw Star or something http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[DizzyDi]

I'm on the fence.
Even though there are a lot of crap animes out there, when you do find a good anime it pays off.
Western cartoons on the other hand, they just aren't that memorable to me, these days at least.
I liked back in the day when Cartoon Network would play Looney Toons and Stven Spielberg cartoons, now those were some quality western cartoons.

[Dhylec]

I think it's safe to say that all anime is cartoon, but not all cartoon is anime.
I watched both when I have time or in the mood to. They are afterall entertainment & meant to be enjoyed.

[DavidNel]

Anime gives me headaches. Too much jumping around and bright lights. Some are good, if they don't get too crazy...

Cartoons rule. Nothing beats a good old funny cartoon on a boring day. Mindless humor > storyline, at least normally. Futurama, Family Guy, American Dad, etc. FTW.

[RuneLateralus]

I used to be a big anime fan up until my second year of college. I think the fanbase killed it for me. Plus the stuff that the club showed at my college was the same tired out crap. They seemed to have a fascination with that cutesy girly crap that I really couldn't get into. Sure, they would show something interesting once in a while, but a lot the times I (along with three other of my friends), would sit in the back and just make fun of what we saw (although that can make anything more enjoyable...from bad movies to the horror that is HD porn which if you haven't seen...don't...there are just things we shouldn't see).

And most of the newer anime I seen doesn't really attract me. I think Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni was the last series I saw that I really liked.

To be honest, while there is some anime will stand out completely above the rest (Miyazaki and Ghibli's stuff in general, FLCL, etc), I feel most of the stuff, will never compare to the stuff I grew up watching, like the old Looney Tunes cartoons, Tom and Jerry, Tex Avery's ingenius work with both WB and MGM (good old Droopy), Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, Ren and Stimpy, Rocko's Modern Life. Plus, stuff like Invader Zim, South Park, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sea Lab 2021, Harvey Birdman, Family Guy, Space Ghost Coast to Coast, The Brak Show, Robot Chicken, and Futurama are some really great shows that caught my interest more than what I seen in anime lately.

[Banish]

Anime >|< Cartoon

I technically like both.

[Puppet_Papaya]

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Don Bluth. :'[

[Sinue_v2]

I don't like Don Bluth's films, except for Tital A.E. Besides, I keep getting him confused with Don DeLouise.

[Retehi]

On 2007-04-06 18:01, Puppet_Papaya wrote:
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Don Bluth. :'[



I wouldn't say he makes cartoons. . animated films more like it. But yeah, regardless, he's a genius. I loved all his films, even if a few traumatized me as a kid.

Charlie in the river of styx anyone? D:

[Puppet_Papaya]

I don't like Don Bluth's films, except for Tital A.E. Besides, I keep getting him confused with Don DeLouise.
Thank you. I always felt Titan was underappreciated. BTW It's Dom DeLouise. Tiger deserves better than that!

[Moo2u]

On 2007-04-06 18:01, Puppet_Papaya wrote:
I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Don Bluth. :'[



I'll put it out there, I'm not a big fan. I liked An American Tail for the most part, and Land Before Time was great, but most of his stuff is very average. Nothing to write home about.

[Obscenity]

On 2007-04-06 19:26, Puppet_Papaya wrote:

I don't like Don Bluth's films, except for Tital A.E. Besides, I keep getting him confused with Don DeLouise.
Thank you. I always felt Titan was underappreciated. BTW It's Dom DeLouise. Tiger deserves better than that!



It's actually Dom DeLuise. I agree that Titan A.E. rocks, though.

[Kuea]

o.o

so many posts to read... but Anime and cartoons, as the poll puts it, are the same to me!

if it catches my interest, I'll watch it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Puppet_Papaya]

if it catches my interest, I'll watch it
Pretty much the same way I roll. It's all the same to me. Both sides produce a lot of crap, a lot of ho-hum, and a few gems. Same as anything in the entertainment/art business.



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[Zelutos]

anime <3

[Sayara]

On 2007-04-06 21:35, Kuea AND NOW TINGLE wrote:
if it catches my interest, I'll watch it.

[Cz]

Cartoon Homer vs. The anime characters from Kanon and Air. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOIx__JCIM&mode=related&search=

[juno-6]

cartoons suck because im not a child, my brain is more complex than fart jokes and random celebrity cameos like in family guy and south park. yea, its funny sometimes, but it gets old fast.

[Moo2u]

It's a good this we have mature anime (http://youtube.com/watch?v=6cS18yG8DJI).

[DizzyDi]

I just wanted to add to this thread.
I realized yesterday that Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends is quite possibly one of the best shows on TV, and maybe even one of the best cartoons ever.

[Kent]

On 2007-04-03 19:34, Shiroryuu wrote:
I'm quite an anime lover, although there are some good western cartoons, like Family Guy, American Dad, Transformers, and Thunder Cats.

lol, What?

...Anyway, for comedy, western cartoons easily win for the most part - mainly because it's usually culturally relevant to where I am (not that I don't get Japanese culture jokes). For action and depth, though, anime will pretty much always win.

[AC9breaker]

There's no "same shit" option. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Moo2u]

On 2007-04-08 20:49, DizzyDi wrote:
I just wanted to add to this thread.
I realized yesterday that Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends is quite possibly one of the best shows on TV, and maybe even one of the best cartoons ever.



Yeah, that show is awesome. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[MaximusLight]

Well if it were back in the 80's it be cartoons hands down, 90's are half and half, but now you need to watch anime if you want most of the good stuff I'd say (except for Foster's that show is awsome XD)

[Tweengo]

Family Guy owns all anime in the gags department. Peter Griffin's laugh cracks me up http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif

[OnnaWren]

Anime for drama and action (GitS, Blood+, Bebop, Gatchaman), cartoons for comedy (ATHF, Family Guy, South Park, Drawn Together).

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. The only one that bucks the trend is Shin-Chan, which is a comedy...

[Akdov]

Live action is unequivocally the best. Would you rather watch Star Trek TOS or Star Trek TAS? Or for you Star Wars fans would you rather watch the Clone Wars cartoons or the Star Wars movies?

But if I have to choose I'll go with cartoons. There are some good animes out there but they are hard to come by. As for cartoons I liked the old Saturday morning cartoons I use to watch like Garfield and all the videogame shows Zelda, Mario and Sonic.

Still I'm surprised that on a web site like this more people wouldn't choose anime.

[Katrina]

Though I do like cartoons like Family Guy and South Park, I'm a bigger fan of Anime.
(especially Bleach) --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwBgAb7_FFU

[Moo2u]

On 2007-04-14 06:21, Akdov wrote:

Or for you Star Wars fans would you rather watch the Clone Wars cartoons or the Star Wars movies?



If it's episode I, II or III, I'd rather watch Clone Wars. That cartoon kicked ASS!

[Kerschweiser]

Something that is neither trying to be politically correct nor trying to be so blatantly far from it that has plot, depth and *gasp* dare I say it? serious tone?

I cast mine vote fah anime!!

*munches on pocky...*

[Tay]

Of course cartoons are better. Let alone individuals style, however, both styles of animation are in quite a shit hole at the moment. 93% of anime is cliche garbage that wapanese kids love, ' serious drama' my ass. Cartoons themselves aren't doing very well at the moment either though, with all that mediocre crap that's almost based of anime style, or just plains sucks. However comparing both, theres no question. Western cartoons for lyfe.




On 2007-04-03 17:30, EphekZ wrote:
Cartoons. Most anime has the same story or does the same shit. and like concussion man mentioned, taking 10 episodes to do one thing is just fucking annoying. those animes with like 100+ episodes are just annoying. the only good animes are the short ones with like 26 episodes. good animes that come to mind; Cowboy bebop(26 episodes), samurai champloo(26 episodes), FLCL( 6 episodes). these all ended perfectly and didn't need anything else to explain. on the other hand crap like naruto is like on it's 200th(?) episodes or something? That's just ridiculous.

This sums up my thought on anime.

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[Kerschweiser]

See, here's the problem with this thread. There's so much crap on either side of the argument it's a really hard choice. It's like the 2000 election, George Bush vs. Al Gore. Let's choose the one that'll fuck up our country the least, right?

But since these genres DO have strong points (by points I mean short series or movies as previously desscribed) why not separate and compare said points instead of lumping it together with the garbage?

[Raysa]

Umm first thing I thought was...there's a diffrence between the two? Anyways I voted Cartoons.

[CrimsomWolf]

I prefer anime... I personaly think that most animes have better plot and character designes.
Besides my favorite TV series is Neon Genesis Evangelion wich is anime... and of course it beats all cartoons

But it's just my opinion

[Weeaboolits]

I personally prefer anime, as the art style is pleasing (to me), and they tend to have a certain level of depth that wester cartoons tend to lack, sure I'll watch Family Guy or Futurama, but they put on Trigun or Eureka Seven and I'm there!

Also as far as anime go, it's usually the shorter run anime that are the best such as FLCL (6 eps), Air (12 eps + recap), Genshiken (12 eps), generally if they stay in the 26-50 or so range they'll be fine, it's the ones that drag on forever that you worry about =

[DamonKatu]

<,< on one hand I like the humor of the simsons andf familly guy but on the other is wacky. Im stumped >.< I would go with cartoon since they been on longer.

[Annabelle]

I think that both sides have their good sides and their bad sides. American cartoons can be very original and very interesting. However, Japanese anime can be just sublime, with brilliant animation and thought-provoking stories.

They influence each other, so its hard to choose one. Anime can be clichéd garbagem just as much as american cartoons can be. So it's hard to choose one! i love them both, and they both have their purpose. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Weeaboolits]

On 2007-04-18 10:00, Annabelle wrote:
I think that both sides have their good sides and their bad sides. American cartoons can be very original and very interesting. However, Japanese anime can be just sublime, with brilliant animation and thought-provoking stories.

They influence each other, so its hard to choose one. Anime can be clichéd garbagem just as much as american cartoons can be. So it's hard to choose one! i love them both, and they both have their purpose. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[washuguy]

On 2007-04-03 17:41, chaos89 wrote:
anime all the way

I'm with the slave on this one...

[Saner]

cartoons have been getting worse when some really awful shows.

yes there are some unbeatable classics but the same could be said of the the legendary anime shows and movies that western media can't match.

[Weeaboolits]

On 2007-04-21 09:39, Saner wrote:
cartoons have been getting worse when some really awful shows.

yes there are some unbeatable classics but the same could be said of the the legendary anime shows and movies that western media can't match.

http://www.futureblues.com/best1.jpg

[Gaderffii]

Cartoons for the most part, though it really depends on the show

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

On 2007-04-21 12:31, Ronin_Cooper wrote:

On 2007-04-21 09:39, Saner wrote:
cartoons have been getting worse when some really awful shows.

yes there are some unbeatable classics but the same could be said of the the legendary anime shows and movies that western media can't match.

http://www.futureblues.com/best1.jpg


The director stated that was an anime made for adults in the vein of Japanese soap operas and prime time spots that competed against it; and that it took a long time to make!

Also stated that voice acting for Samurai Champloo was intended to not be like most anime with over the top expressions and cliche' stuff like staring blankly after saying a character's name and it was patterned after more normal conversation and speech patterns.

So I'd rather have that kinda stuff in anime, shorter series, not super short like 6 episodes or superlong such as 50-100+ episodes with "fillers."

But enjoyed plenty of Simpsons, Futurama, Family Guy in the past although when you know most of the jokes repeats can get stale fast.

Western media has lasted much longer than most all anime in terms of Hanna Barbera/Tex Avery stuff. Those won't ever go away completely I'd say. And matching it isn't a goal either since during times where they're forcing it, people know right away things are nearly copying the anime style and are turned off by it.

[Thrash777]

Anime all the way! More action, better background story, and you can get some really funny moments!

[Nixia]

Either. If it's good I'll watch it (read: Avatar http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif). They say that there are only seven basic story plots, in anime there's usually just one. I love it when it's good, but they recycle the same crap over and over and over and over again, it's sickening. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

But I'm looking forward to the Devil May Cry anime in June. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[ShadowDragon28]

If it wasn't for "Gatchaman", Go Nagai's art,
" Macross ", and the art & Films of Hiyao Miyazaki I would not still admire or watch anime.

Both western Cartoons and Anime do have their share of horrible garbage. IMO Some of the crappiest cartoons being some of junk cartoons spewed out in the early to mid '80's.

It's sad that (it seems like) practically no one appreciates *good* Anime series like Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex, Wolf's Rain, Paranoia Agent, Last Exile, Trinity Blood, Blood+.

But too many watch the simple formulaic(sp?) cliched junk and have the impression that "most" or
"all" anime is like Naruto/DBZ/One-Piece/Pokemon, etc.



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[Shiro_Ryuu]

I have to agree, although I think Naruto is awesome, I do hate how people think anime = the 100+ episode examples you brung up. I do have to say that there are a few good anime that have 100+ episodes, Fist of the North Star and Bleach come to mind, but the 52 episode and lower ones are the best IMO.

[Schubalts]

On 2007-04-27 03:27, ShadowDragon28 wrote:

It's sad that (it seems like) practically no one appreciates *good* Anime series like Ghost in the Shell:Stand Alone Complex, Wolf's Rain, Paranoia Agent, Last Exile, Trinity Blood, Blood+.

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Might be off-topic, but: Paranoia Agent was from freaky show towards the end.

[ShadowDragon28]

Fist of the NorthStar was an awesome series, it's a little disappointing that almost every martial-arts themed Action-Drama anime after it (DBZ, Yu YU Hakusho, Naruto, etc) has "borrowed" nearly part and parcel from Hokuto No Ken.

I mean, no offence to "Naruto" fans, but IMO "Naruto" is basically a DBZ knock-off with "Ninjas." Only thing missing is some magical object that grants wishes...

BTW A "naruto" (tranliterates as "Swirl-Widget" )a tiny round and thin fish-cake with a swirl imprinted on it.
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t127/ShadowDragon28/a-naruto1.jpg


I'd rather re-watch the entire "Hokuto No Ken" series, in Japanese (with or without subtitles), at least the long-running "Inu-Yasha" and "Bleach" has an pretty interesting storylines too.

But "every anime" is *not* a flashy super-powered fighters battling each other over-the-top
Action-Drama.

"Paranoia Agent" is an magnificant series. It shows how if enough people (especially paranoid people) believe something to exsist and is "willed" to exsist that whatever "It" is can manifest in some way (or more than one way) to sort of "exist" for real...



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