Photon Luck- Sega Team Answer

[Raysa]

Alot of people weren't sure about what does Photon Luck effect. So I asked SegaTeam through E-mail and got this response.

Hello,

Luck affects the chance of finding rare drops, rare creatures, and rare
items. Luck can also positively affect your chances in other aspects of
the game such as grinding and synthesizing. If you have any other
questions, please let us know.

Thank you
John
SEGA Support

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 12:05 AM
To: psu support
Subject: PSU FORM: General Inquiry - What does photon luck actually
effect?


Tuesday, April 10, 2007, 12:04 am [EST]

PSU FORM: REQUEST
name = ????????
email = [email protected]
gameid or gametag = . Raysa
platform = PS2
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description =
I've heard so much rumors. I am just curious what does it effect. I
can't find anything in the Manual. Mind telling me the things it
effects?



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[Retehi]

On 2007-04-11 14:42, Raysa wrote:

Luck can also positively affect your chances in other aspects of
the game such as grinding and synthesizing.



LIES

[Foxix]

lol, hah! I always thought it affected synths, which is why the last time I had 3 luck I managed to get so many grinder B+10's hah! I can't believe people didn't think it affected synths mwahah!

[Tekershee]

Oh come on. You seriously believe what they come up with?

[Mikaga]

I hope this is proof enough that the support staff are clueless morons. (Not like I haven't been trying to show that for months...)

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[zandra117]

It only affects drop frequency (frequency as in if you kill an enemy while having no luck alot of the enemys will drop nothing but if you have 3 star luck they will always drop an item, but it never affects the chances that you find an item), the chances of synthing a good grinder, and the chances of successful grinds.

[THERAPIST]

Does luck affect boss drops?
SEGA's response would imply that it does ...

[ulyoth]

How do you people know this? Have you actually tested your theories...doubt it.

[SolomonGrundy]

the grinding thing should be SO easy to test.

wait for a luck 3 day
buy 200 c rank grinders (20k)
buy 40 c rank grinder boards (6K)

record results.
do the same thing on a 0 luck day.

Also: make sure female cast luck is zero on both days. I've often wondered if it was female Cast luck affecting synth.

[JAFO22000]

On 2007-04-11 14:42, Raysa wrote:

Luck affects the chance of finding rare drops, rare creatures, and rare items.

How do "rare items" differ from "rare drops". I thought the terms "items" and "drops" were pretty interchangable.

[Soukosa]

lol... This is funny...

Okay, the bible which is taken from information from the game devs themselves states that photon fortune influences only the drop anything rates of enemies/boxes/whatever and grinding odds. Nothing else. Now, someone that does tech support for their job (especially at a foreign branch from the main company) isn't likely gonna know these things.

Also, I've seen from personal experience while tracking down item drops from enemies that fortune influences their drop anything rates which would match up with what the bible says. Furthermore, if they really knew what they were saying, they'd be using the correct term of "photon fortune" and not "photon luck" >.>

[NPCMook]

I call fake because I tried asking them a question and I got "No we can not answer a question regarding game play" Nice try though ^.~

[SolomonGrundy]

also, Sonoummi, I thought there was some agreement that luck affected rare map apearance?

[Mewn]

It's probably real. Doesn't make it what 'John' said any more true though.

[Dj_SkyEpic]

I think he wasn't thinking while stating those o.o;

Then again... He's saying "Luck." Real life luck fits his statement more than the Photon Luck/Fortune.

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[Proff]

There's no way luck affects rare map appearance. I've tried getting the rare map for Endrum Remnants 6+ hours straight on a 3 Luck day and not get a single rare map. Then, on my way to De Ragnus on a 0 Luck day, I get a rare map without even trying. It's the same with many maps. Luck definitely had no effect when I was hunting Loveheart Line. I swear I'd only get one rare spawn per day on 2 and 3 Star Luck days if I got one at all.

[Golto]

When they say it effects rare drops and rare items it means rare drop (ores gems etc) have a better chance of dropping their max star number rarity for that mission. Instead of getting a lot of under 6* ores you get more 8* ores. Instead of getting copernia you get goldarnia. Ores and gems have a lot of overlapping monster lvls that several different items can drop. Rare items could mean weapons/boards basically things that have only one possibility for a monster at a certain lvl to drop. Luck increases the chance these could drop.

Yesterday at +3 luck I got two rare spawns within 4 runs. Whatever that means.


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[villenium]

It's completely anecdotal, of course, but I used Skyepic's guide to try and find an Easter Egg for an hour or so with no stars and struck out.

When I had luck a couple of days ago I got a rare map on the Hive level, so I popped over to LL and got rappy spawn on my second attempt with two Easter Eggs.

Mind you...it may have just been real life luck, rather than Photon Fortune, I guess.

[Umberger]

On 2007-04-11 15:59, Mewn wrote:
It's probably real. Doesn't make it what 'John' said any more true though.



Indeed...I remember a Juan saying the Carriguine-Rucar was not able to be obtained legitimately...so much for that. =p

[FUFME]

On 2007-04-11 15:08, Foxix wrote:
lol, hah! I always thought it affected synths, which is why the last time I had 3 luck I managed to get so many grinder B+10's hah! I can't believe people didn't think it affected synths mwahah!



Yep, I believe this too that it effected making B+10, cuz I got a crapload more on a Luck 2/3 day making them then when I had no luck

[SarinSerafi]

This is really odd stuff. The other day when Newman females had 3 luck, I happened to have seven synths of weapons ready to be pulled. All seven were successful. I usually get 4/7, or 3/7.. nope, 7/7. Today, where she has 1 luck, I got 5/7. Hmm.

It never worked like that before, I know that much. And I only seem to find rare maps when I have no luck or 1 luck, never 3. >< I've seen multiple Hard/Power Charges and one Halp Serafi board drop when I had no luck. These days, I try to do all my farming when I have 1-2 luck. 3 luck does nothing. :/

[Siertes]

So this topic basically left us all where we started: Not everyone agreeing on the subject.

*Sigh*

[Johann]

Luck affects the chance of finding rare drops, rare creatures, and rare items. Luck can also positively affect your chances in other aspects of the game such as grinding and synthesizing.

Maybe he deliberately used the term 'luck' instead of 'Photon fortune'?

If we remove the original question from the context, there is basically nothing wrong with the paragraph above (and nothing helpful as well, since we all know that already).

He could be side-stepping the issue by providing a technically correct but unrelated 'answer'.

Maybe a reply asking specifically if he meant 'luck' or 'Photon Fortune' might settle the issue.

[jayster]

I sent sega an email asking for help to sign up for the guardians license for Phantasy star universe on xbox 360 because it wasn't letting me...

And i got an email back from them telling me how to set up my dreamcast.... which i dont have btw.

[Fulgore]

This email of theirs is Total Crap, and here is why!!!

I got 3 sets of Easter Rappies within 2-3 hour times and had only 1 or no luck those days. While, the past 3 days I spent all day hunting with 2 star luck.......got squat!

Synths.......I have gotten my most successful synths (44% Hoza Dark, 20% Deljabaner, room decos, etc) while having 1 to no luck......3 star luck days have only been useful to me in loading me up with crap items while hunting and occasionally helping me grind weapons past 5, while at times even with the best grinders still breaking my weapons.....GRRRRR

There.....definitive results.......oh, and on a Zero luck day I pulled 5 B+10 Grinders as well.

Honestly, I longgggggg for zero luck days, just today I had zero luck and pulled 12 star material items off serveral places and all I was doing was rappy hunting...

[SolomonGrundy]

I would like to respectfully suggest again that it seems possible that FEMALE CAST photon fortune would affect synth (as that is what your PM is).

I also submit that I do not know for sure, and have NOT done extensive testing. However, the next female cast 3 luck day, I will be doing more testing for sure (the c rank grinder test should be a large enough sample size).

[Arika]

On 2007-04-11 15:56, NPCMook wrote:
I call fake because I tried asking them a question and I got "No we can not answer a question regarding game play" Nice try though ^.~



Agree , true

[Raysa]

I'll take a screen shot and ask them yourself. It's also not an ingame tip. Do you guys tend not to believe anything, because its too good to be true. I asked them what does it affect because it isn't in the Manual. ;/

[Raysa]

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/Raiphie/NewBitmapImage3.jpg

The actual mail.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/Raiphie/NewBitmapImage4.jpg

[Fulgore]

I wasn't calling you a lier Raysa....

I was calling SEGA! liers http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

BIG Difference http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Raysa]

No people were telling me, I made a fake. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif Honestly why would I lie and go through such lengths of typing this out for something so trivial?

[NPCMook]

Attention?

[Raysa]

I dont know maybe thats your issue when you decide to bash everything so negatively.

[NPCMook]

touchè

[Fulgore]

On 2007-04-11 20:27, NPCMook wrote:
touchè




HEHEHEHE He said Tooshie

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif HAHAHA

[PALRAPPYS]

On 2007-04-11 20:30, Fulgore wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:27, NPCMook wrote:
touchè




HEHEHEHE He said Tooshie

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif HAHAHA



And your account says you're 24? I'm sorry but... is it really that funny?

But as for rare enemy findings... my luck is already so bad there, on a 2* luck day I search almost all day and I find no rappies whatsoever. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

[NPCMook]

On 2007-04-11 20:39, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:30, Fulgore wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:27, NPCMook wrote:
touchè




HEHEHEHE He said Tooshie

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif HAHAHA



And your account says you're 24? I'm sorry but... is it really that funny?

But as for rare enemy findings... my luck is already so bad there, on a 2* luck day I search almost all day and I find no rappies whatsoever. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

lol its okay, some people just take longer to mature...

[PALRAPPYS]

On 2007-04-11 20:45, NPCMook wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:39, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:30, Fulgore wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:27, NPCMook wrote:
touchè




HEHEHEHE He said Tooshie

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif HAHAHA



And your account says you're 24? I'm sorry but... is it really that funny?

But as for rare enemy findings... my luck is already so bad there, on a 2* luck day I search almost all day and I find no rappies whatsoever. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

lol its okay, some people just take longer to mature...



No no... anyone at the age of at least 18 should be mature... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif and even at the age of 10 I expect those children to be mature... oh well. Guess I can't expect too much. *sigh*



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: PALRAPPYS on 2007-04-11 20:47 ]</font>

[Fulgore]

On 2007-04-11 20:47, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:45, NPCMook wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:39, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:30, Fulgore wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:27, NPCMook wrote:
touchè




HEHEHEHE He said Tooshie

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif HAHAHA



And your account says you're 24? I'm sorry but... is it really that funny?

But as for rare enemy findings... my luck is already so bad there, on a 2* luck day I search almost all day and I find no rappies whatsoever. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

lol its okay, some people just take longer to mature...



No no... anyone at the age of at least 18 should be mature... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif and even at the age of 10 I expect those children to be mature... oh well. Guess I can't expect too much. *sigh*



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: PALRAPPYS on 2007-04-11 20:47 ]</font>


...AND THAT boys and girls is why the world has Wars and Contentions and blah blah blah....

...people would do Good to NOT mature....

[pikachief]

On 2007-04-11 20:47, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:45, NPCMook wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:39, PALRAPPYS wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:30, Fulgore wrote:

On 2007-04-11 20:27, NPCMook wrote:
touchè




HEHEHEHE He said Tooshie

http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif HAHAHA



And your account says you're 24? I'm sorry but... is it really that funny?

But as for rare enemy findings... my luck is already so bad there, on a 2* luck day I search almost all day and I find no rappies whatsoever. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cry.gif

lol its okay, some people just take longer to mature...



No no... anyone at the age of at least 18 should be mature... http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif and even at the age of 10 I expect those children to be mature... oh well. Guess I can't expect too much. *sigh*



<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: PALRAPPYS on 2007-04-11 20:47 ]</font>


um i think he's mature but he was probably bored and was just trying to have fun and mess around. and now u and your pal rappys have ruined his sillyness http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

[Raysa]

Anyways I think that I might start asking questions about everything. Maybe I can get a list of what S-ranks are available in game. I doubt it though. Will post what I can get out of them! http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Mikaga]

Oh you'd probably get a list if you asked enough, but please don't make the mistake of believing it.

[Raysa]

What would the developing team get out of lying to me? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Arika]

I m 100% sure that at least, rare map has nothing to do with rare enemy http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif
I hunt rare everyday and alway do this

[Raysa]

What do you mean? Don't you need a rare map for a rare enemy to appear? I mean I don't personally hunt rares like that, but thats how I thought it worked. So I'm guessing on 3 Luck day. Your chances to get a rare map is better?

[Zarbolord]

If luck does affect me then it does by 0.0000000000000000000001% I'm sorry, but finding one extra kerseline isn't rly luck.

[Mewn]

On 2007-04-12 00:13, Raysa wrote:
What would the developing team get out of lying to me? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif


They're not the dev team, unless you've got some magical hotline direct to Sonic Team.

[VPLoki]

What does sega team know anyway, its not like they play the game. You never see MODs outside event times, and when you do they are lvl 1. A little bird must have told them, or the voices in their heads.

[Dj_SkyEpic]

On 2007-04-12 23:20, VPLoki wrote:
What does sega team know anyway, its not like they play the game. You never see MODs outside event times, and when you do they are lvl 1. A little bird must have told them, or the voices in their heads.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/skyepic/psu20070413_055853_001.jpg

There have been mods out of event times. Like this one for example. 3 players were found with the name "SEGA Security." It was a violation against one of their rules so they gave a warning to the players, at the same time informing everyone about the situation. There may seem to not be mods around but you can at least report players via the official website... It might even seem like there's a Sega Mod watching around http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif.