Another PC Setup Topic!

[Kuea]

well I seen the other one right here and I finally started to look into the computer I want to build for myself... unfortunetly I don't know much about computers so I've sorta just been going on by what people have said about stuff http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

so far really what I have got together so far is most of what I think is needed... aside from OS hard drive and such...

Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 - CPU $350
TWIN2X2048-6400 - RAM $150 x2
MSI K9A Platinum Socket AM2 ATI CrossFire Radeon Xpress 3200 ATX AMD - Motherboard $150
connect3D 3061 Radeon X1950 CrossFire Edition 512MB GDDR4 - Video Card $300 x2
ENERMAX Galaxy EGX1000EWL - PSU $350
ENERMAX Uber Chakra ECA5001BS - Case $150

so really... I want to know if this will work, what could be changed to make it better and what else is needed http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

cost isn't really much of a problem since I've got plenty of time to save up and such... but this computer would prolly be used the same way I use my current one... to game on, to chat on, and to run lotsa programs at once while gaming http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

[VioletSkye]

Wait for a few months at least for the price drops from Intel to see what happens price wise. Also consider the 6050 series of Intel cpus (which feature a 1333MHz FSB) which will be releasing July 22nd. I've seen prices forecasted of around $183 for an E6750.

Also your motherboard is an AM2 socket which won't work with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor. You'll need an LGA 775 socket mobo. AM2 is for AMD Athlon cpus only.

Lastly IMHO, I would recommend (2) 8800GTS cards over the (2) Radeon cards. You would only be paying roughly $30 more for both cards and they will easily smoke (2) Radeon X1950's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082

If you wanted to save some cash, get (2) 8600GTS's and you'll still be better off then with the (2) Radeon cards.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2007-06-02 18:55 ]</font>

[Sekani]

You're spending a lot of cash for someone who doesn't claim to know a lot about computers.

[Kuea]

On 2007-06-02 17:50, VioletSkye wrote:
Wait for a few months at least for the price drops from Intel to see what happens price wise. Also consider the 6050 series of Intel cpus (which feature a 1333MHz FSB) which will be releasing July 22nd. I've seen prices forecasted of around $183 for an E6750.

Also your motherboard is an AM2 socket which won't work with an Intel Core 2 Duo processor. You'll need an LGA 775 socket mobo. AM2 is for AMD Athlon cpus only.

Lastly IMHO, I would recommend (2) 8800GTS cards over the (2) Radeon cards. You would only be paying roughly $30 more for both cards and they will easily smoke (2) Radeon X1950's.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130082

If you wanted to save some cash, get (2) 8600GTS's and you'll still be better off then with the (2) Radeon cards.

see, this is why I like to double check all the stuff I get told <3

I should just like... only listen to you from now on violet http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

so as for the 8x00GTS cards, you can still put in two cards without ones that are crossfire? as well as what type of mobo would be better to get, or a differant core rather...

( yes yes I know I r teh n00b with knowing stuff about building em, but you gotta learn somewhere http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif )


On 2007-06-02 18:43, Sekani wrote:
You're spending a lot of cash for someone who doesn't claim to know a lot about computers.

and what I don't know about computers involves the acual component parts and building them

[Jive18]

Don't waste your money on a 2nd video card, as long as you're running an 8800 you'll be fine. From what I've heard from many, SLI adds maybe 10-12 fps to your performance, but that simply doesn't justify the extra $200-300 you'd pay for the 2nd card. If you must go with dual cards though, you have to make sure that your motherboard supports Crossfire/SLI, depending on which one you want.

As Troy said, wait until July for the Intel cuts, you will find some amazing processors for great prices when that rolls around.

As for RAM, go with these - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231065

These G.Skill HZ's compete with ram twice the price (like Corsair/Kingston) and overclock like nobody's business because of the quality of the chips they use (Micron D9's).

Hope I could help, later.

[VioletSkye]

An nforce 650i board would ensure that it would support a 1333MHz FSB at least, however you can find 680i boards for not much more and then you get full SLIx16 and support for SLI-ready memory (up to 1200MHz.) You could also go with a 680i LT board which is pretty much the same except that it doesn't support memory speeds up to 1200MHz. It does have full SLIx16 though. However the price between the two is negligible.

Another thing to keep in mind with the 680i vs the 650i is that you get 6 SATA ports vs 4 SATA ports. And who cares if you only get 1 PATA port, since you can buy SATA optical drives for roughly the same price as the IDE types. Honestly, I can't think of a reason to use PATA anymore unless you are using parts from a previous machine. I know Dell has started using SATA optical drives and I'm sure other larger OEM system builders are making the move as well.

As for motherboards, this ASUS (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131073) should do everything you need/want it to. Bare in mind this will not support 1200MHz memory. If you want a decent 680i board for less and don't care about quad core, then check out this EVGA (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188019). If you want 680i and full 1200MHz RAM support then check out this EVGA. (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813188012)


On 2007-06-03 10:14, Jive18 wrote:
Don't waste your money on a 2nd video card, as long as you're running an 8800 you'll be fine. From what I've heard from many, SLI adds maybe 10-12 fps to your performance, but that simply doesn't justify the extra $200-300 you'd pay for the 2nd card. If you must go with dual cards though, you have to make sure that your motherboard supports Crossfire/SLI, depending on which one you want.

Actually at resolutions higher then 1280x1024 it can make a HUGE difference. On some games it more than doubles the framerate. Heh, even at 1280x1024 it can make a rather large difference on some games.

On a side note, I agree with Jive18, the G. Skill brand is decent and I've used it in several builds without any problems. Just make sure that whatever motherboard you choose will support RAM at 2.0V, otherwise you'd need a different stick (possibly 1.8V) in order to get into BIOS and make the change.

One thing I forgot to mention is that if you go strictly SATA, make sure your PSU has enough connectors or that the device/s come with adapters.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: VioletSkye on 2007-06-03 11:01 ]</font>

[Jive18]

Yeah, I guess you are right about higher resolutions. But even then Kuea is going to have to purchase something larger than a normal 19-20" monitor to utilize those improved framerates with 2 cards.

I still say a single 8800GTS or GTX is a very wise investment and will fit most anyone's needs; with either card you will max out games for the next year at least (640mb GTS).

Also, don't skimp out on the PSU. make sure your power supply will cost at least 1/3 of the price you spent on your video card/s. Good brands include Seasonic, Corsair, OCZ (GameXstream), Thermaltake (Toughpower), PC Power & Cooling, and Silverstone.