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Escoffier
Jul 27, 2007, 12:44 PM
which would be better? if you can pick any special for an s-rank needle it seems like that would be better. any input?

Jaspaller
Jul 27, 2007, 01:11 PM
S-rank needle is weaker than the Spread Needle. But the fact that you can add a different special is just awesome. Add a Berserk or Spirit special to it and it's just destructive. Makes me wish I actually got through Ep2 c-mode...

Altavista
Jul 27, 2007, 01:29 PM
Go with the one you want. I use spread since it always paralyze when it hits.

FLASH007
Jul 27, 2007, 03:34 PM
Is there a way you can get an s-rank weapon to freeze like the Frozen shooter?Or is the Frozen Shooter just going to always be the best freezing weapon on the game?

Escoffier
Jul 27, 2007, 03:39 PM
i doubt it because if you had a weapon that shot as fast as a rifle but shot like a spread AND froze everbody in the room 99% of the time..it would be unfair



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FLASH007
Jul 27, 2007, 03:52 PM
Yeah I know thats why I was asking because that would be a bad a$$ weapon lol.

Rob19
Jul 27, 2007, 10:35 PM
if u ever do get the choice, i'd go w/ s rank needle. i personally have one on my ramar, and he pwns w/ it. it has zal, which really helps (lv 33 <3) and it has MUCH more consistent damage, whereas spread needle has a ton of variance imo.

and to answer about the freezing needle, u can add blizzard which would be an unreduced special freezing 80% of the time. so, depending on if u would like that better, well, u decide. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

JapansRobo
Jul 30, 2007, 01:52 AM
On 2007-07-27 20:35, Rob19 wrote:
if u ever do get the choice, i'd go w/ s rank needle. i personally have one on my ramar, and he pwns w/ it. it has zal, which really helps (lv 33 <3) and it has MUCH more consistent damage, whereas spread needle has a ton of variance imo.

and to answer about the freezing needle, u can add blizzard which would be an unreduced special freezing 80% of the time. so, depending on if u would like that better, well, u decide. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Could I get 2 S-Rank Needles? Blizzard & Zalure.

EphekZ
Jul 30, 2007, 04:37 AM
On 2007-07-29 23:52, JapansRobo wrote:

On 2007-07-27 20:35, Rob19 wrote:
if u ever do get the choice, i'd go w/ s rank needle. i personally have one on my ramar, and he pwns w/ it. it has zal, which really helps (lv 33 <3) and it has MUCH more consistent damage, whereas spread needle has a ton of variance imo.

and to answer about the freezing needle, u can add blizzard which would be an unreduced special freezing 80% of the time. so, depending on if u would like that better, well, u decide. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif



Could I get 2 S-Rank Needles? Blizzard & Zalure.



Yes, you could, but you'd need to do ep2 c-mode with two different characters. anyways, I always <3'd my demons needle which made quick work of most enemies. with demons using blizzard or some crap just makes it pointless since the enemy dies like right away.

Rob19
Jul 30, 2007, 10:33 AM
On 2007-07-30 02:37, EphekZ wrote:

Yes, you could, but you'd need to do ep2 c-mode with two different characters. anyways, I always <3'd my demons needle which made quick work of most enemies. with demons using blizzard or some crap just makes it pointless since the enemy dies like right away.



but u also would have to have upwards of 215/220 base ata especially online. if u get s parts, that would really help.

and ep2 cmode isn't too hard to come by. just make sure you know how to cmode b4 u go into ep2. (not that im great at it)

Hopesbane
Jul 30, 2007, 03:48 PM
Blizzard is a pretty crappy special, and senseless when you could just use a Snow Queen to freeze multiple enemies anyway. I'd recommend Demon's, Spirit, Berserk, or Zalure for an S-Rank Needle. I find dead enemies to be even less of a threat than paralyzed ones.

Rob19
Jul 30, 2007, 03:58 PM
i agree. i was just answering his question about the multiple freezing of enemies. he probably meant when they're not in a line or w/e.

Escoffier
Jul 30, 2007, 04:19 PM
what do the specials Demon's, Spirit, and Berserk do exactley? isnt demons the 1 hit kill spirit sacfafices tp for a powerfull attack and berserk sacrifices hp?

Jaspaller
Jul 30, 2007, 04:21 PM
Demon's reduces HP by half (correct me if I'm wrong). Berserk sacrifices HP for a hard attack (like Soul Eater), and Spirit uses TP instead of HP.

Escoffier
Jul 30, 2007, 04:23 PM
oh well ik think a spirit needle sounds like the way to go then http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif but none of my friends will do challenge mode with me and ive never done it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif

CellarDoor
Jul 30, 2007, 04:26 PM
Hell is a good special to put on a Needle if you play Episode 2 a lot. I had one on a RAcast with V502 and Ranger Wall and it was just incredible how quickly it cleared Seabed. Even on Sinow Zoa it was decently reliable. Solo PW3 in about 20 minutes with that needle.

Escoffier
Jul 30, 2007, 04:37 PM
whats hell do?

Jaspaller
Jul 30, 2007, 04:39 PM
http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=977

Escoffier
Jul 30, 2007, 07:00 PM
thanks

Rob19
Jul 30, 2007, 09:35 PM
On 2007-07-30 14:26, CellarDoor wrote:
Hell is a good special to put on a Needle if you play Episode 2 a lot. I had one on a RAcast with V502 and Ranger Wall and it was just incredible how quickly it cleared Seabed. Even on Sinow Zoa it was decently reliable. Solo PW3 in about 20 minutes with that needle.



it also depends on if he's gc or bb >_>

but yeah a spirit needle won't be as good as u think imho. it drains ur tp so much and then you have to replenish it cuz it won't work after a certain point. zerk is good when you have a decent fo, or are very good at dodging enemies and the like. demons is a good choice as well, reduces to 1/4 hp and can make short work of enemies http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

any other questions? OH and if u r online, whats ur characters? i could probably get u started on cmode w/ other ppl. IF your on gc that is (refers to first sentence)



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JapansRobo
Jul 31, 2007, 03:28 AM
On 2007-07-30 19:35, Rob19 wrote:

On 2007-07-30 14:26, CellarDoor wrote:
Hell is a good special to put on a Needle if you play Episode 2 a lot. I had one on a RAcast with V502 and Ranger Wall and it was just incredible how quickly it cleared Seabed. Even on Sinow Zoa it was decently reliable. Solo PW3 in about 20 minutes with that needle.



it also depends on if he's gc or bb >_>

but yeah a spirit needle won't be as good as u think imho. it drains ur tp so much and then you have to replenish it cuz it won't work after a certain point. zerk is good when you have a decent fo, or are very good at dodging enemies and the like. demons is a good choice as well, reduces to 1/4 hp and can make short work of enemies http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

any other questions? OH and if u r online, whats ur characters? i could probably get u started on cmode w/ other ppl. IF your on gc that is (refers to first sentence)


Wanna play c-mode tommorow? You already know who my characters are (same name).



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SStrikerR
Jul 31, 2007, 08:18 AM
yo ill play cmode 2, but rob, u have a link in ur pm box, use et

Escoffier
Jul 31, 2007, 09:52 AM
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it also depends on if he's gc or bb >_>

but yeah a spirit needle won't be as good as u think imho. it drains ur tp so much and then you have to replenish it cuz it won't work after a certain point. zerk is good when you have a decent fo, or are very good at dodging enemies and the like. demons is a good choice as well, reduces to 1/4 hp and can make short work of enemies http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

any other questions? OH and if u r online, whats ur characters? i could probably get u started on cmode w/ other ppl. IF your on gc that is (refers to first sentence)



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nope i dont have the broadband adapter..im prolly going to see if i can borrow my friends then i will get online but i have no clue how becuase ive only been online on BB. ( i have GC ) and my character is a RAmar named AnDay lvl 97. if he lets me borrow it ill pm you or something http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif




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Rob19
Jul 31, 2007, 03:54 PM
sounds good guys. i'll pm each of u later today after i get off of work. until then, happy gaming http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wink.gif

JapansRobo
Jul 31, 2007, 06:00 PM
Sorry, I won't be able to get on when Rob finishes work. I'll be able to get on in 2 or 3 days. Don't postpone the game though, I'll find some people to do it with today.