Hardware probs with PSU

[VanDarkmind]

Hey guys. I can may use some help here. I finally bought a copy of PSU for PC last week and there occurs a problem with the gaming perfomance. My PC should run it four times at once, looking at the system requirements. But the performance breaks down after a while, even with the lowest resolution and detail levels.

I'm running a:

X64 Athlon x2
Gefoce 7500+ (256 MB)
And 2 Gb DDR2 RAM

And pitily Vista....


The game is being updated automatically, so there might not come up a problem with the game itself.
Any ideas abou that?

[VanDarkmind]

C'mon! Isn't anyone around here who could have at least any idea?

[Dj_SkyEpic]

It's Vista.
You may experience slow down in gaming since the OS that it plays on is mainly XP supported.

The best thing you can do is try a performance tweak:
Click (http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?t=21715&start=0&sid=e948d4c4e7f2c99369b565345c52216f)

Other things is to dumb down the graphics such as Post Effects off and Mipmap.

Hope some of these work for you.

[VioletSkye]

The 7500LE is an incredibly weak videocard.

[VanDarkmind]

whew. I'm glad to see that there's anyone to help. Thanks DJ for the link, but I've got a serious problem with japanese. Sounds good so far but I'm not able to find out where to download, 'cos I can't read it http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime2.gif

An Violet: I don't know, what's your problem. Maybe to you, that Card's weak, but I bought this pc for a good price, so I'm not complainig about it. It SHOULD run PSU easily. I don't know, what you're runnig. Maybe something like Raedon Xyz beta gamma 1000384638463847 or something. Looks like you're thinking my Videocard's from the stoneage... However. Thanks anyway.

[VanDarkmind]

Uh... and sorry for posting in the wrong forum....

[VioletSkye]

I apologize if my response sounded overly critical. I was in a hurry and was trying to answer as succinctly as I could as to why you are experiencing performance issues (aside from it running on Vista lol.) The 7500LE is a lowend graphics card used specifically by OEMs (Original Equipment Manufacturers) like HP, Gateway, etc. It isn't really meant for gaming and is based on the older G72 chip. The good news is, you at least have a PCI-Express slot so upgrading the videocard to something better suited for running games at a decent framerate/resolution is definitely possible http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Dj_SkyEpic]

Oh, it's really simple... Here. I'll make a guide on how to download from the page.



http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/skyepic/Auto%20Gear/autogearweb.jpg

The download should pop up automatically.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e349/skyepic/Auto%20Gear/autogeardownload.jpg

[VanDarkmind]

@ Violet: It's okay. I overreacted a bit. Sorry for that. But my possibilities are limited at the moment, because my PC is brand new, and my warranty would be void if I opened the case. (So there's nothing I can do on it during the next 2 years....) Surely, I will upgade it, but not now and I want to play it now. Anyaway, my PC is working properly, even with vista and everything else is running correctly on it except PSU...
And here comes the second part:
@Dj: Jup, thanks. I found it by myself somehow and thanks to the well detailed instructions I found my way through the program. But pitily, that doesn't do that much to the perfomance. I didn't test out enough to see a difference by now.
Thanks for your help two of you http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[Sinue_v2]

and my warranty would be void if I opened the case. (So there's nothing I can do on it during the next 2 years....

I wouldn't really worry about the warranty, honestly. The chances of a default manufacturing error is rather slim, and they won't fix issues caused by power surges or software problems, which will likely be the bulk of any future issues you have. It would be worth cracking the case at least at the end of 6-8 months to give it a good cleaning. Dust is a major killer of PC's - it traps heat, can cause shorts, adds wear and tear to your fans, and can block contacts if it's in the slot when installing new hardware. Seriously, you would most likely be much better off ignoring the warranty - especially if it binds your hands from upgrading or preforming routine maintinence for such a long period of time. And no... your warranty probably doesn't cover damage caused by dust buildup.

But it is your decision. One of niceties of building your own system is that any warranties you receive are for individual components - not the PC as a whole. If you don't want to crack it and clean it - you can also reduce dust by making sure you vaccume regularly, do regular dusting of your home, keep pets and animals AWAY from your system, and try not to put the PC anywhere near an open window. Also, don't smoke around it if at all possible. The smoke will get sucked up by the intake and over time leave sticky nicotine deposits on your hardware - which help trap dust.

Also, if you do decide to upgrade your graphics card - make SURE your power supply can handle it. It should say on the box what rating of power supply is recommended, and if you have a 500w supply then you generally should be good to go. Problem is, many of the pre-built system have power supplys rated for just what that machine needs. They often aren't built to be upgraded - but rather thrown away so that you can buy a new machine from them in three - four years time.

But yeah, I would say your graphics card is the biggest problem. You system is better than mine (AMD 64 3000+ 1.8Ghz, 512 Ram) and I can run PSU beautifully on the high-end settings provided I turn off Post-Effects. The only thing I can think of is that I have a Diamond ATI Radeon x1550 w/512 Vram, and you have the Nvidia 7500LE w/ 256. Also, I'm running XP SP2 - which probably helps quite a bit as well.

(Edit: Noticed something funny. My display properties listed my card at 512, but I had BOUGHT the 256mb model. I guess there was an error in packaging because I just did a dxdiag, and it's listing 512 Vram as well. Sweet.)

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[Para]

I don't think its the hardware people but rather AMD's dual cores have a time-stamp issue that affects video performance. Your computer needs to be patched wiiiiiiiiiiiiith this http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_wacko.gif

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html

First download.





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[VanDarkmind]

Yeah! Thanks to auto gear, I can play without performace breakdowns after a while (A reason, which caused me to restart psu and and afterwards, it worked normally) even if I had to cut down the resolution again.

Thanks to Para, I got a bit more of performace out of this rattle box http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif Thanks a lot for that link *thumbsup*

And also Shinue for your advice, but I got two problems, that would make it more difficult for me to upgrade the next 2 years:
First, I'm from Germany. Other Country, other laws :'(
Second, there's a seal at the back of my computer. I have to break it off to open it and in that case, my warranty is clearly void... No chance that way, but thanks for your advice anyway.

Also, I'm testing out the 9.0c runtime from direct X, maybe that will change things a bit more.

Thanks to all of you, I wouldn't know what to do without you !

[Para]

What i posted should've permanently fixed your breakdown problem though.

[VanDarkmind]

well, there's still something not properly working, so I had to be a bit tricky to run it at least with a 800 x 640 resolution... Thanks anyway. It won't hurt my CPU http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/anime1.gif

[ZeroVer01]

Eh... My parent's computer has the 7500le, which is a hewlett packard specialty crap card...

You should be able to run smoothly with autogear on, at 1024X768 resolution. Just turn frame skip on to 2.

One thing that can help is overclocking your graphics card via ntune. It should give you a performance increase.

[VanDarkmind]

On 2007-08-16 09:43, ZeroVer01 wrote:

One thing that can help is overclocking your graphics card via ntune. It should give you a performance increase.



Uhm... call me dumbfounded, but what's "ntune"?

[VioletSkye]

ntune (http://www.nvidia.com/object/sysutility.html)

[VanDarkmind]

Thanks for the link!

[Masou]

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[AsagiD]

Hey guys I just brought PSU for my PC (Windows XP SP2) the game slows down quiet a bit even though I'm using low-res graphics but I know for sure that my PC can haddle the normal-res or high-res graphics. Here are my computer details as far as hardware goes.

Intel Pentium D 2.80GHz
1.50GB RAM
ATI Radeon RX600 Pro-Guru 256MB DDR

Hope that someone in the forum can help me http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Thanks

[Dj_SkyEpic]

Your graphics card wasn't really designed for the "serious gamer" since it's a budget card. You'll have to play it at a few bit of low settings to have fair game-play.