Gravity Break and Hikai Shuha-zan lvl 30 numbers?

[Magness]

Anyone have the att%, acc%, and total number of targets/hits. I can't find anything on the forums and the psupedia chart hasn't been updated lately. I'm at 36/36 PAs and I don't want to replace any of my PAs just to find out the new one won't work for my character/play style.

[HFlowen]

Gravity break is 400 atp and 70 ata.

Hits one target twice on first combo.
Two target once with knock-up on the second.
Two targets once with knock-back on third.

EDIT: At level 30 that is.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: HFlowen on 2007-10-28 16:45 ]</font>

[Xaeris]

Gravity Break - 400% ATP, 70% ATA, Hits one enemy twice - hits and launches two enemies once - beats me.

Hikai Shuha-zan - 180% ATP, 78% ATA. This is actually kind of embarrassing to say, but I haven't used my WT since the cup started, so I've forgotten the hit spread.

[Magness]

400%!! dear God.. thanks man

[HFlowen]

Hikai is two targets with 4 hits first combo.
Two targets with 4 hits then two target with 3 hits on the second?

Never use daggers so I'm just looking at the psu-wiki right now.

[Zorafim]

Mm, it must be wrong, then. It hits 3-3-4 times, two targets each. Knockup on all but the first two hits.
Considering how useful this is with both offense and defense, I don't see why people bother with Renkai.

[Xaeris]

Offensive as I find it that Hishou is being called better than Renkai, I'll focus on saying that you're thinking of Hishou Jinren-zan. Hikai Shuha-zan is the single dagger ultimate.

[Magness]

Would Hikai be worthy of replacing Buten for my WT?

[Xaeris]

I wouldn't kick Buten to the curb for Hikai's sake, but Hikai does pretty much everything Buten does...but better, with 20% more ATP. The first step of both skills are functionally the same, right down to the soft knockdown on the last hit, and the second step of Hikai is superior in having quicker execution time. I'd still keep Buten around in case the ATA is needed (at 30, Buten hits 90% where Hikai stays put at 78%) though.

[Zorafim]

On 2007-10-28 16:54, Xaeris wrote:
Offensive as I find it that Hishou is being called better than Renkai, I'll focus on saying that you're thinking of Hishou Jinren-zan. Hikai Shuha-zan is the single dagger ultimate.



/ja "facepalm" <me>


All these japanese inspired gibberish names, hard to memorize which is which.

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

I greatly prefer Buten to Hikai, just because the second part is actually practical in more than a small number of occasions, and it eats PP less quickly.

[R2R_Crysaki]

you've got to have good aim with Hikai's second combo, if you do, it will certainly help you alot