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Mawile
Nov 21, 2007, 02:07 PM
JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THIS


STRIKING
400k Maestra per day for:
200 3* striking weapons(12 points each)
24 levels per day
4.1 days to level 100
Total: 1,668,000 meseta

TECH:

Slower but cheaper
400k Maestra per day for:
200 3* technic weapons(12 points each)
24 levels per day
4.1 days to level 100
Total: 1,668,000 meseta

Expensive but extremely quick:
1.2m Maestro per day for:
200 debuff disks
42 levels
2.3 days
Total: 2.76m


On 2007-11-23 00:15, Kion wrote:
Striking and tech can still get cheaper.

For tech, jellen disks are 6000 meseta and give +21 tech. Which comes to about 285 meseta per point. It's not as cheap as 3* weapons which are 167 meseta per point, but a pure PM can be accomplished 1.75 times faster. And it's cheaper than 4* weapons which are 537 meseta per point and can be aaccomplished 1.3 times faster.

And striking, you can make fruit juice from buying the boards and ingrediants from G colony 2F. It's 5 stars, so it gives striking + 12 and tech +3. The fruit juice costs 200 meseta to make the complete product. and three 1* melee weapons costing 350 meseta each. Giving the tiny sum of a mere 67.5 meseta per point compared to the previously listed 167 and 537 meseta per point listed in the first post.




RANGED

120k Mesata per day for:
200 Burn Trap EX(20 points each)
40 levels a day
2.5 levels to 100
Total: 300k Mesata

ARMOR

Half prices when 1up comes into effect.


On 2007-11-22 09:38, Bliven wrote:
seems like 200 feedings of the 9 star yukata and 200 feedings of the 8* subarga arms (23 a feed) yields exactly 10000 points http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif.

so for short, 1.8 mil/900k for a 2 day armor pm.

Jesus

1 Million OR 500k per day for
200 9* Cast Yutaka(27 points each)
64 levels per day
1.5 days to level 100
Total cost: Approx: 1.5m/750k mesata


EDIT: Streamlined it a bit and got rid of useless recipies.

Edit: Eeeewwwww i messed up on math :<

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Broodstar1337
Nov 21, 2007, 02:34 PM
You can search for player shops that have cheaper prices than NPC. That should cut costs immensely.

Mawile
Nov 21, 2007, 02:50 PM
On 2007-11-21 11:34, Broodstar1337 wrote:
You can search for player shops that have cheaper prices than NPC. That should cut costs immensely.

I'll be sure to add 'quick' to the title as well.

Kion
Nov 21, 2007, 03:12 PM
For tech PM's the fastest way is jellen disks. Each one costs 6000 meseta and gives 21 points. And for ranged PM's, traps are by far the easiest way.

The expensive ones to level are melee and armor.

Rizen
Nov 21, 2007, 03:19 PM
Armor PMs have become even easier to raise.

7* 9* Cast part for 5000 meseta. Wait til 1UP bonuses and thats only 2500 meseta.

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Mawile
Nov 21, 2007, 03:50 PM
On 2007-11-21 12:19, Rizen wrote:
Armor PMs have become even easier to raise.

7* Cast armor for 5000 meseta. Wait til 1UP bonuses and thats only 2500 meseta.

Jesus

9* part price = 5k/2.5k
9* parts = 27 points
200 feedings = 64 levels
200 feedings = 1m/500k
Days to level 100 = 1.5625
Total cost: 2.3m/1.15m

When do these prices come into effect?

Edit: 100 ARMOR PM IN A DAY and a half

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Rizen
Nov 21, 2007, 03:59 PM
Not sure, sometime next week I hope.

Actually, small correction...that armor is 9*.....

Xtian913
Nov 21, 2007, 04:15 PM
I made my Armor PM the FREE - and slow and painful - way. Sure, I had to log-in, make a Cast, strip it, then kill it countless, countless times over the course of weeks... but it was free. WooT.

Edit: Typo

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Mawile
Nov 21, 2007, 04:18 PM
It's not armor, it's parts, and that makes it go even faster, quite possibly a day then, checking.

Oh and i just rammed out ranged.

Combined Trap Gs and EX traps(You can buy a total of 50 if you get all of them, except for Damage G which is a few stars lower) you get:

80 Trap Gs = 9.6 levels = 28k mesata
20 Trap EX = 4 levels = 12k
80k mesata per day, 13.6 levels per day
7.35 days to level 100
588k mesata

200 Burn Trap EX = 4k points = 40 levels per day
200 Burn Trap EX = 120k per day
300k mesata to level 100

Rizen
Nov 21, 2007, 04:30 PM
X_X Cast parts, yea. I always call it armor for some reason. *falls over*

Mawile
Nov 21, 2007, 04:40 PM
First post now with all info, thanks for the cast parts info.

Now to hammer out some PMs http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_cool.gif

Spacepest
Nov 21, 2007, 10:00 PM
On 2007-11-21 13:15, Xtian913 wrote:
I made my Armor PM the FREE - and slow and painful - way. Sure, I had to log-in, make a Cast, strip it, then kill it countless, countless times over the course of weeks... but it was free. WooT.

Edit: Typo

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LOL, I did the same. Nougami made his armor PM the old fashioned way...by converting his room into a robotic chop shop and killing hundreds of Casts. But hey, he had his armor PM in a week!

Mawile
Nov 22, 2007, 02:26 AM
Of course i'm dumb and didn't look at technique disks! bask in my failure.

I didn't work the math out yet but Zodeel disks(120k per day) will give you 42 levels a day.

mizukage
Nov 22, 2007, 09:18 AM
Fixed it a little.. Currency is meseta, not maesta.


On 2007-11-21 11:07, Mawile wrote:

3* weapons give 12 points
3* weapons cost 2000 meseta
24 levels per day
200 feedings per day
200k per day.
4.1 days
Total: 820k meseta.



Well.. For the network mode, this is the best method to get a pure striking PM in a short period of time with the least amount of expenses.

In extra mode, this is very sweet:

Daga Steg (dagger)
= cheapest 3* melee weapon
= 3000 meseta
= +12pt Strk.

Partner Machinery
-It takes about 8 pieces of Daga Steg to raise 1 level and that costs 24,000 meseta.
-And so, easy math. 100 levels will require 800 daga steg and the amount sums up to about 2,400,000 meseta. Cheap???

You can feed as many as you like. There is no limit to amount of items you can feed the PMs. However, there is a limited capacity of how many items you can carry each time, which is 60.

Due to the fact that you have to be equipped with weapons, armors, and carry items at all times. The most you can carry each time would be 40x Daga Steg. Generally, you just run back and forth to the Weapon Shop on the 1st floor and your room to feed the PM. Eventually, after 2-3 hours, you will have a pure striking PM. That's quite a long time..

Niloklives
Nov 22, 2007, 11:05 AM
it's not zoldeel disks...it's just debuffs in general. they all cost 6k and are all 6*. this is by far the cheapest fast way for a tech PM. I was able to get a tech PM to 20 just buying those disks from other players. sived me quite a bit of money.

in any case using this method will cost you just under 3mil, but if you're vigilant and feed the pm every 12 hours, you have a combat ready PM in 2 days and in 2.5 days you have a pure tech

Niloklives
Nov 22, 2007, 11:14 AM
On 2007-11-22 06:18, mizukage wrote:
Fixed it a little.. Currency is meseta, not maesta.


On 2007-11-21 11:07, Mawile wrote:

3* weapons give 12 points
3* weapons cost 2000 meseta
24 levels per day
200 feedings per day
200k per day.
4.1 days
Total: 820k meseta.



Well.. For the network mode, this is the best method to get a pure striking PM in a short period of time with the least amount of expenses.

In extra mode, this is very sweet:

Daga Steg (dagger)
= cheapest 3* melee weapon
= 3000 meseta
= +12pt Strk.

Partner Machinery
-It takes about 8 pieces of Daga Steg to raise 1 level and that costs 24,000 meseta.
-And so, easy math. 100 levels will require 800 daga steg and the amount sums up to about 2,400,000 meseta. Cheap???

You can feed as many as you like. There is no limit to amount of items you can feed the PMs. However, there is a limited capacity of how many items you can carry each time, which is 60.

Due to the fact that you have to be equipped with weapons, armors, and carry items at all times. The most you can carry each time would be 40x Daga Steg. Generally, you just run back and forth to the Weapon Shop on the 1st floor and your room to feed the PM. Eventually, after 2-3 hours, you will have a pure striking PM. That's quite a long time..





cheaper way to raise your PMs striking is to feed it high end expendables. scape dolls and tear of light are fantastic ways to raise striking, though you have to throw in a few wepoans to keep the tech lvl from rising. still, iirc a single scpae doll raises striking by 24 and tech by 5. so you can raise your PM by 20 lvls a feeding fairly easy and cheap.

also, PMs can only be fed 100 items every 12 hour period. otherwise getting a PM to 100 in a day wouldn't be worth discussing at all.

furthermore you certainly do not need to carry expendables, weapons, armor and clothes. unequip all of that which will leave you with (worst case scenario which is to say you have goggles) 59 slots. realistically we're talking about 1 feeding in two trips.

Mawile
Nov 22, 2007, 12:20 PM
[b]in any case using this method will cost you just under 3mil, but if you're vigilant and feed the pm every 12 hours, you have a combat ready PM in 2 days and in 2.5 days you have a pure tech

You're off by a 0. It's almost the same as the Burn Trap EXs.

Bliven
Nov 22, 2007, 12:38 PM
Cheapest armor PM. 8* for 4k/2k Subarga Arms

200 feedings = 46 levels
200 feedings = 800k/400k

400 feedings = 92 levels
400 feedings = 1.6 mil/800k

435 feedings total required = 1.74 mil / 870k

2 and a half days total



running math to get it in 2 days with a combination of the 2 currently, will edit when I solve.


seems like 200 feedings of the 9 star yukata and 200 feedings of the 8* subarga arms (23 a feed) yields exactly 10000 points http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif.

so for short, 1.8 mil/900k for a 2 day armor pm.



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Mawile
Nov 22, 2007, 01:59 PM
added to the first post, nice find http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

foamcup
Nov 23, 2007, 12:11 AM
Where are you finding this crap for 4k? I see shit for like 40k.

Kion
Nov 23, 2007, 03:15 AM
Striking and tech can still get cheaper.

For tech, jellen disks are 6000 meseta and give +21 tech. Which comes to about 285 meseta per point. It's not as cheap as 3* weapons which are 167 meseta per point, but a pure PM can be accomplished 1.75 times faster. And it's cheaper than 4* weapeons which are 537 meseta per point and can be aaccomplished 1.3 times faster.

And striking, you can make fruit juice from buying the boards and ingrediants from G colony 2F. It's 5 stars, so it gives striking + 12 and tech +3. The fruit juice costs 200 meseta to make the complete product. and three 1* melee weapons costing 350 meseta each. Giving the tiny sum of a mere 67.5 meseta per point compared to the previously listed 167 and 537 meseta per point listed in the first post.

mizukage
Nov 23, 2007, 10:25 AM
Why would you want to use Jellen, when staffs are a lot cheaper. In the long run, you can achieve a pure PM with the least amount of meseta spent, meaning that you can use that huge amount of meseta on either weapons, armors, or items of your choice. Isn't this better?

A staff is a 2* GRM wand and it only costs 800 meseta. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

Mawile
Nov 24, 2007, 05:58 PM
On 2007-11-23 00:15, Kion wrote:
Striking and tech can still get cheaper.

For tech, jellen disks are 6000 meseta and give +21 tech. Which comes to about 285 meseta per point. It's not as cheap as 3* weapons which are 167 meseta per point, but a pure PM can be accomplished 1.75 times faster. And it's cheaper than 4* weapeons which are 537 meseta per point and can be aaccomplished 1.3 times faster.

And striking, you can make fruit juice from buying the boards and ingrediants from G colony 2F. It's 5 stars, so it gives striking + 12 and tech +3. The fruit juice costs 200 meseta to make the complete product. and three 1* melee weapons costing 350 meseta each. Giving the tiny sum of a mere 67.5 meseta per point compared to the previously listed 167 and 537 meseta per point listed in the first post.



This is a great post and i'm putting it in the op.

However, one of my goals for this was that you would absolutly minimize any tedium while gaining the PM at an incredibly fast speed, while spending little money.

When i started the guide it was taking me around an hour and a half to just feed my PMs.

The most tedious feeding, to this guide, would be Ranged followed by Tech and Armor and finally, actually, striking.

Ranged, optimally you'd buy 20 Burn EX traps, sending 10 to the shared storage, then repeating this 5 times.

Tech, Striking, and Armor has you buying a certain amount of items one at a time(optimally you would get 30) and feeding them all, about 3 or 4 trips depending on what you're carrying.

This annoyed me, and what's worse that there were suggestions for doing synths, and going to player shops, etc. The loading times are terrible enough, the last thing i wanted to do was go through more of them.

Thus, this guide. I'm taking your suggestions and putting them in the OP because they're good, legit suggestions and ARE pretty quick compared to what it used to be, and are great for people new to the game, because the other guides i see are pretty outdated. Who still sells a lot of 3 or 4* items in their player shops? 1up and the expansion also helps solve most money woes.