Me / Quick - Har / Quick comparison?

[Mawile]

Should i just get Me / Quick and be done with the head slot for forever? Just how much faster is the Har / Quick?

I couldn't find a thread about this nor any videos on youboob at all about it, so...

[Rizen]

*digs up this posts* I will find it in a second.

Edit: Found!

Rods: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1IQVLnJvfo
Wands: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb8ASDVSf0s

The videos don't do much justice but shows a small different. Hopefully if I can get a Har/Quick, I can get a comparison video done.

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[mizukage]

How useful are the Quick attachments?? I have never tried one before. Personally, I tend to switch between the HP Restore and the PP Generate slot units instead.

[Rizen]

The Quick units are head slot, so you don't have to worry about mixing them with your Generates.

And I can honestly save that Quick units are godsent for people who like to cast alot. Even with Me/Quick, it cuts down buff times significantly. The trade off for the -30 TP for Me/Quick is worth it and Har/Quick -100 TP isn't as bad as people think. Trade off a few points on your Resta and Spells for better casting and mobility.

[Mawile]

Thanks for the vids and the info. I went and blew some money on a me / quick and now mags are stupidly fast. It's SO GOOD.

[mll]

This is from Tra's 'everything about techs' thread not much difference between them.

Level 1+ Techs


Wand (Casts per minute)
. . . . . . . . . . No Quick . . . . . Me / Quick . . . . Har / Quick
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Basic Techs . .40 . . . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . . . . . 42
Ra Techs . ... .34 . . . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . 42
Gi Techs . .. . 32 . . . . . . . . . 37 . . . . . . . . . . 40
Dam Techs . . 12 . . . . . . . . . 12 . . . . . . . . . . 12
Megiverse . .. 6.5 . . . . .. . . . 6.5 . . . . . . . . . . 6.5
Nos Techs . . .28 . . . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . 28
Buffs/Debuffs .34 . . . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . 42
Giresta . .. . . 18 . . . . . . . . . 24 . . . . . . . . . . 30
Resta . . .. . . 36 . . . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . 42
Reverser . .. . 40 . . . . . . . . . 42 . . . . . . . . . . 42


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Level 11+ Techs


Wand (Casts per minute)
. . . . . . . . . . No Quick . . . . . Me / Quick . . . . Har / Quick
-----------------------------------------------------------
Basic Techs . .38 . . . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . 40
Ra Techs . ... .32 . . . . . . . . . 37 . . . . . . . . . . 40
Gi Techs . .. . 30 . . . . . . . . . 36 . . . . . . . . . . 38
Dam Techs . . 7.75 . . . . . . . . 8 . . . . . . . . . . 8.25
Megiverse . .. 6.5 . . . . . .. . . 6.5 . . . . . . . . . . 6.5
Nos Techs . . .28 . . . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . 28
Buffs/Debuffs .32 . . . . . . . . . 37 . . . . . . . . . . 40
Giresta . .. . . 18 . . . . . . . . . 24 . . . . . . . . . . 30
Resta . . .. . . 34 . . . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . 42
Reverser . .. . 36 . . . . . . . . . 40 . . . . . . . . . . 42


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Level 21+ Techs


Rod (Casts per minute)
. . . . . . . . . . No Quick . . . . . Me / Quick . . . . Har / Quick
-----------------------------------------------------------
Basic Techs . .28 . . . . . . . . . 30 . . . . . . . . . . 32
Ra Techs . ... .24 . . . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . 29
Gi Techs . .. . 22 . . . . . . . . . 26 . . . . . . . . . . 28
Dam Techs . ..5.75(46). . . . . .6(48). . . . . . . . 6.25(50)
Megiverse . .. 5.75(28). . . . . .6(30). . . . . . . . 6.25(31)
Nos Techs . . .28 . . . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . 28
Buffs/Debuffs .24 . . . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . 29
Giresta . .. . . 15 . . . . . . . . . 20 . . . . . . . . . . 24
Resta . . .. . . 26 . . . . . . . . . 29 . . . . . . . . . . 30
Reverser . .. . 28 . . . . . . . . . 30 . . . . . . . . . . 32


Wand (Casts per minute)
. . . . . . . . . . No Quick . . . . . Me / Quick . . . . Har / Quick
-----------------------------------------------------------
Basic Techs . .36 . . . . . . . . . 39 . . . . . . . . . . 40
Ra Techs . ... .30 . . . . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . 36
Gi Techs . .. . 26 . . . . . . . . . 32 . . . . . . . . . . 36
Dam Techs . ..6(48). . . . . . . . 6.25(50). . . . . . 6.75(54)
Megiverse . .. 6(30). . . . . . . . 6.25(31). . . . . . 6.75(33)
Nos Techs . . .28 . . . . . . . . . 28 . . . . . . . . . . 28
Buffs/Debuffs .30 . . . . . . . . . 35 . . . . . . . . . . 36
Giresta . .. . . 18 . . . . . . . . . 24 . . . . . . . . . . 30
Resta . . .. . . 32 . . . . . . . . . 36 . . . . . . . . . . 40
Reverser . .. . 34 . . . . . . . . . 38 . . . . . . . . . . 42

[Randomness]

Looks to me like Har is more useful with a rod than a wand... I assume from the data then that Har would be barely noticable over Me as an AT, especially with Madoogs...

[tailz]

im using a har/quick with an entire pallet of wands/madoogs and i dont think ill ever use any other setup for a looong time... maybe just add in a card or 2... i usually use the 6th wand/madoog for the 4 buffs, which is incredibly fast... then if i know ill be taking a lot of damage, i use all wands for dealing damage, and use all madoogs for resta/reverser, with one madoog using giresta instead of reverser... har/quick n madoog is practically a trimate http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif... so i highly recommend this setup... ive played a lot without quicks, just as much with a me/quick, and ive had this har/quick for just a couple weeks but i can definitely say its worth every penny- saved my life several times

and as rizen said, videos DO NOT do it justice... you have to try it yourself

when ur in the middle of 8 lv100 vanda merhas throwin 21+ diga from every angle n u have less than 1400 HP... ull never use another head slot again (unless they make an orpa/quick later or something hehe *keeps fingers crossed*)

[Randomness]

Are you an AT though, is the question, because they also get a built-in speed boost.

Imagine something like an orpa / quick with madoogs on an AT... Maybe 2 digas a second?

[StkDrowsy]

does anything but a quick unit ( me/quick - har/quick) affect casting speed, or is there a amor that boosts it too?

[Anduril]

I tried out Gizonde as an AT with an without Me/Quick on a wand.
At lv 11 Without there was about 1/2 of a second without the animation being visible before the next one appeared (ie. the Ball of Electricity at over the Char.), with the Me/Quick there was hardly a gap between the 2 castings. I was rather impressed.