AotI: A Warning to All: Photon Gotcha

[Tsang]

Has anyone used this machine before? My friend claims that it stole all of his money.

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[Chuck_Norris]

I've never even heard of it. Where did your friend find this?

[Nisshoku]

It's a prize for 6 silver points at the Casino.

[RedMussel]

Its a casino room deco, the person who puts it in there room can set a price on how much you give it, the only thing i dont no about this deco is that the person who has it in there room will get the mesta that has been taken.

[Tsang]

It was in this random girls room. He said he kept playing with it then most of his money was gone.

[Dragwind]

What the....CHARLES?

[beatrixkiddo]

It tells you how much it costs. If he kept playing with it after the message, sucks to be him http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Hath_Wrobo]

It's called Gacha Gacha for a reason. The fact that meseta is so easy to come by nowadays, its pretty amusing for sonic team to put in a deco. like this.

"A fool and his money are soon parted"


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[Tsang]

Ah k thanks for the info.

[Anduril]

Thank you for telling me about this. I'm not going to try to get one. Unless I get the money that gets taken from people....

[Deissa]

On 2007-11-24 22:02, beatrixkiddo wrote:
It tells you how much it costs. If he kept playing with it after the message, sucks to be him http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


Well, it SHOULD but the message went on so long there wasn't enough space in the text box, and the bit about cost can't be seen http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Tsang]

OO that just plain dirty then.

[Broodstar1337]

Just imagine how many people are gonna cry SCAMMER with this thing...

[Hath_Wrobo]

Does anyone know if you actually receive anything from these machines?

[Getintothegame]

I'm so confused, what happens when you set this in your own room? What about someone else's room?

[beatrixkiddo]

You put items into it, and set a price to play. When a visitor approaches the machine, it shows them the top 3 items in it (not sure if you set those 3 yourself or if it does it by star rarity), and the price. They can then choose whether or not to pay. If they do, they get a random item from the machine.

[StrongFiend]

I just know i lost 1mill at random on that thing, and yes the room owner keeps the money, shows i shouldn't talk about my money to others thees days

[D1ABOLIK]

On 2007-11-24 22:32, Cadamar wrote:

On 2007-11-24 22:02, beatrixkiddo wrote:
It tells you how much it costs. If he kept playing with it after the message, sucks to be him http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif


Well, it SHOULD but the message went on so long there wasn't enough space in the text box, and the bit about cost can't be seen http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif
Scroll down with the D pad. EDIT: Where can i aquire one of these machines? =)



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[Apone]

something like a plush crane type room deco would be cool, you could put photons or other things in it and charge people a small fee to play. If it takes money shouldnt it be fun?

[Remedy]

On 2007-11-24 23:20, Apone wrote:
something like a plush crane type room deco would be cool, you could put photons or other things in it and charge people a small fee to play. If it takes money shouldnt it be fun?That's exactly what the deco in question does. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[A2K]

On 2007-11-24 22:52, beatrixkiddo wrote:
You put items into it, and set a price to play. When a visitor approaches the machine, it shows them the top 3 items in it (not sure if you set those 3 yourself or if it does it by star rarity), and the price. They can then choose whether or not to pay. If they do, they get a random item from the machine.

Are there images of this in action? It sounds like the old "I got a Burst in this present JUST KIDDING IT'S A SCAPE DOLL BOARD THANKS FOR YOUR HUNDRED THOUSAND MESETA" scam, minus the actual scam part since allegedly people should know what they're getting into now.

[GreenArcher]

So here I was at 3am looking around shops for Note Seeds just for the hell of it, decided to go into the one with the cheapest to have a look around (300k lolz), and then I saw this

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g242/swrsnowboardrat/psu20071125_030752_006.jpg

I had never seen this deco before, so naturally I went over to it, saw an option to access it, so I did, and I got this prompt:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g242/swrsnowboardrat/psu20071125_030801_007.jpg

Got some 9*/8* synth mats and I'm thinking oh, cool. So I did it a couple of times, next thing I know I see this:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g242/swrsnowboardrat/psu20071125_030808_008.jpg

And then...

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g242/swrsnowboardrat/psu20071125_031317_009.jpg

>_> bye bye 20mil, thank you for fucking prompting me about THIS COSTS MILLIONS OF MESETA TO USE.

Looks like I'll be selling my Agito Repca or something, I'm just about broke -_-

And before I get the IT'S TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, FIGURE OUT WATSUP: It's 3am.

[Getintothegame]

Man... I guess it's really start time to use my PM sorta like the bank was used in PSO.

EDIT: see also http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=161155&forum=20&20

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[Apone]

Well it would be cool if there were a mini game invoved to drop a crane grabber with a lttle skill http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[vfloresjr24]

Wow that sucks. I'm gonna stay away from that.

[A2K]

Ah, so the prompt is broken. There is a thread about this particular deco already:
http://www.pso-world.com/viewtopic.php?topic=161155&forum=20&20

It's supposed to be displaying how much it actually costs in that prompt (it's adjustable by the seller), but it isn't, and it seems people have been taking advantage of it.


On 2007-11-25 00:19, Getintothegame wrote:
Man... I guess it's really start time to use my PM sorta like the bank was used in PSO.

I actually keep most of mine in the common box for quick access for my other characters. Although if you only have the one it's probably best to keep it on hand and just avoid these things entirely (or at least strangers' machines) at the moment.

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[Para]

maybe the person configured it so that it costs millions to use LOL

[Apone]

It needs to be skill based and they need a patch to fix the description and the way it functions ASAP!

[tailz]

i think this is a cool idea for a small minigame... as long as they make sure that the cost to play is 110% clearly stated and cant be hidden... but even so, just make sure you dont have much money on you and then see how much it subtracted from your total amount... no1 should lose large amounts of money from this... be smart people, its really not that hard http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Ffuzzy-Logik]

Well, it's called the "Photon Gacha" for a reason... :

[Kion]

lack of sleep and shop searches do not go well together. (i fell for a present scam at 4 am) Should have known better that time, unlike this. Thanks for the warning and i hope you can do something to get your monee back.



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[Dragwind]

Ouch, sorry to hear dude.

[Arika]

Yup, that is right, the player can set the price by it own, about how much will it cost you /time .
well, even in Jp, some random player did the same by set it very high cost to cheat other too,
players have to check it before use (how much is the cost)

[SnowfoxZero]

so wait a second, sega purposly and dilibertly put something like this in the game?.. HAHA..

[Wallin]

I heard someone mention this on the Sega forums I think, but it was new and just people tossing around the "screenshots or it didn't happen" bit.

That just plain sucks, Sega better get off it's butt and fix this. I know it's Sega we're talking about, but I would make sure to report it anyway.

[Weak]

Wow. My god.

I hate saying "that sucks", because if it were me in your shoes, it would just make me feel worse.

But damn, that sucks. At least you're doing the right thing and warning others about it.



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[Rainu]

My friends pulled this sort of thing on me earlier today -- I got the money back, luckily. Sorry to hear you got ripped off, though.

Photon Gacha? More like Photon "Gotcha".

[D1ABOLIK]

I retract my past statement.You cant scroll down and see the cost!!!Avoid this game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Shirashimi]

God, that really sucks. T_T I've come to the conclusion it's a bad idea to play late at night because I fall for those kinds of things all the time. Sorry to hear that happened, but at least you've warned other people (like me) who might not know about that.

[physic]

well really, its STs fault, the item is a really cool concept except, the text message is screwed up that tells you the cost. Which in this case, is not a small typo but now a scammer tool extraordanaire

[-Ryuki-]

It's a "fun" way to sell things, but it's pretty messed up when someone abuses such a thing. If it's reportable, do it.

[RemiusTA]

That is FUCKING hillarious, Sonic Team.


Too bad its broken. They really need to fix it.


Kudos to the people who stole everyones money XD

[Schubalts]

I needs me one of those...

[Rashiid]

Who said it is broken? Perhaps this was their orginial intentions.

[GreenArcher]

The prompt cuts off at "ite-", referring to items. Leads one to assume that there was more after it

[Ryo_Hayasa]

bull crap, this kinda item needs to be erased from existance. My god, the newbies who would fall for this, and just think, if no one warned anyone about it, think, just think how many more people would've lost all their money. (I for one, i can't help but touch everything in a person's room that i don't have, i'm just a busy body like that) and i knew the name "Photon Gacha" was abit too obvious.

Who knows what other items there could be out there like this? Freakin "Shoot the rappy" Gallery? Miniature fun house of doom?

Why Sonic team? Why?

[Rashiid]

It obviously means 'Of that Item', being that it says 'If you are carrying the maximum amount of an item, you will not be able to receive that ite(m)'

[GreenArcher]

On 2007-11-25 06:18, Rashiid wrote:
It obviously means 'Of that Item', being that it says 'If you are carrying the maximum amount of an item, you will not be able to receive that ite(m)'



Yes I know that I'm not stupid -_-

Point was the script CUTS OFF. There was more to it.

Here's what it's supposed to look like in JP
http://i3.tinypic.com/8a1f30m.jpg
Notice the 3 extra lines of text we have that has a number?

[PALRAPPYS]

The way I'd try it, is bring a small amount of meseta with you (10,000 or less) and do one. That way, you're only losing 10k or less if that's the price, and you're getting something.

Small meseta amounts is the key!

[Nobo]

On 2007-11-25 06:31, PALRAPPYS wrote:
The way I'd try it, is bring a small amount of meseta with you (10,000 or less) and do one. That way, you're only losing 10k or less if that's the price, and you're getting something.

Small meseta amounts is the key!


hard to do that when you always have 12mil on you

[Reipard]

Some support tickets can go a long way here. Seems Sega needs to know about this.

[Rashiid]

On 2007-11-25 06:28, Green_Archer3 wrote:

On 2007-11-25 06:18, Rashiid wrote:
It obviously means 'Of that Item', being that it says 'If you are carrying the maximum amount of an item, you will not be able to receive that ite(m)'



Yes I know that I'm not stupid -_-

Point was the script CUTS OFF. There was more to it.

Here's what it's supposed to look like in JP
http://i3.tinypic.com/8a1f30m.jpg
Notice the 3 extra lines of text we have that has a number?



Oh wow, didn't notice that.
That is interesting.....

I just want to know why Sonic Team would design something like this....

[Reipard]

They didn't design it intentionally to cut off text and scam people. It is simply something they missed in the testing. A text overflow is a pretty common translation bug.

[Kinako78]

On 2007-11-25 06:17, Ryo_Hayasa wrote:
bull crap, this kinda item needs to be erased from existance. My god, the newbies who would fall for this, and just think, if no one warned anyone about it, think, just think how many more people would've lost all their money. (I for one, i can't help but touch everything in a person's room that i don't have, i'm just a busy body like that) and i knew the name "Photon Gacha" was abit too obvious.

Who knows what other items there could be out there like this? Freakin "Shoot the rappy" Gallery? Miniature fun house of doom?

Why Sonic team? Why?



What about those of us who wouldn't use it to scam people but just for fun? Shouldn't we have a right to use it?

[Wallin]

Gotcha is actually a really useful decoration - it eliminates the stupid shops where people advertise "Buy a random present for 10 million and win <insert rare item here>!" because the Gotcha actually tells you what items are on it (although I don't know if it's a complete list).

Now if only SoA would fix the stupid text problem, we'd be all set.

[Sierhiet]

On 2007-11-25 00:17, Green_Archer3 wrote:
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._. Thats terrible. My brother says thanks for the 20mil, but he feels bad, so he is willing to hand some back. Neither of us knew initially what that thing did. Dont blame Shyne, blame Sega. The price was set initially as an experiment to see what the machine did, and well... this is what it did. I guess the name speaks for it all. "Gotcha"



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[-Tidus_415-]

On 2007-11-25 06:33, Nobo wrote:

On 2007-11-25 06:31, PALRAPPYS wrote:
The way I'd try it, is bring a small amount of meseta with you (10,000 or less) and do one. That way, you're only losing 10k or less if that's the price, and you're getting something.

Small meseta amounts is the key!


hard to do that when you always have 12mil on you



...Now for what reason do you need to carry 12 mil on you?

[Remedy]

On 2007-11-25 10:50, Sierhiet wrote:
but he feels bad, so he is willing to hand some back.Obviously, he doesn't feel that bad, or he'd return the entire 20 million.

[Sierhiet]

On 2007-11-25 11:06, Green_Archer3 wrote:
That's fucked up Sierheit. Fucked up.

Sorry Green, but im only a messenger. I'll see if I cant convince him to give the rest back, but I think he wants something in return for his honesty. Quoting Shyne "Its called a Gotcha Machine people. I would think someone would realize theres something wrong with it, if its called a "Gotcha Machine". 2. Why would you try 20 times if all your getting is Kerseline, Vestaline, and B and A rank weapons...? 3. I did feel bad until I glanced at this thread. Im not a scammer people http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif this was not my fault. An experiment gone terribly wrong.

[Remedy]

On 2007-11-25 11:23, Sierhiet wrote:
Im not a scammer people http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_frown.gif this was not my fault. An experiment gone terribly wrong.If this statement were true, then he would return the entirety of what he took from Archer. I'm 100% certain Archer would be willing to return what the Gacha spit out.

[beatrixkiddo]

Actually, it's a "Gacha" machine, named after a kind of toy dispenser from Japan. It's not meant to scam people out of meseta. I highly doubt neither of you knew how it worked, since all it would have taken was 5 seconds to "use" it and see that the price was not displayed.

[Weak]

On 2007-11-25 10:50, Sierhiet wrote:
._. Thats terrible. My brother says thanks for the 20mil, but he feels bad, so he is willing to hand some back. Neither of us knew initially what that thing did. Dont blame Shyne, blame Sega. The price was set initially as an experiment to see what the machine did, and well... this is what it did. I guess the name speaks for it all. "Gotcha"


Oh, please. Spare us. Shyne is absolutely not sympathetic.

An experiment? Come on. Any normal experiment wouldn't involve a vast sum of meseta like 10 million per item. It was obviously set high to get rich off of an unfortunate individual who happens to carry a lot of money around. This wasn't any better than a scam operation, and if he's not willing to give all of it back, then it says a lot about his character, and shows that this wasn't just any experiment.

The meseta was earned under false pretenses, and he knows it. "Thanks for the 20 mil"? Heh.

Of course, you and Shyne could also be completely unrelated, and you're just saying this to stir up trouble.



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[Indica]

Glad I knew about this and would never know it actually does anything.

My friend has one and luckily it only charges 2k and got a Neu-Ebon off it.

[Kylie]

What? http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif Thanks for the head's up... that's hilarious.

[Randomness]

That... would probably be the best 6 silver you could spend, until it gets fixed.

From a purely profit-minded stance, of course. Ethically, not so much.

[Sierhiet]

On 2007-11-25 11:29, Weak wrote:

On 2007-11-25 10:50, Sierhiet wrote:
._. Thats terrible. My brother says thanks for the 20mil, but he feels bad, so he is willing to hand some back. Neither of us knew initially what that thing did. Dont blame Shyne, blame Sega. The price was set initially as an experiment to see what the machine did, and well... this is what it did. I guess the name speaks for it all. "Gotcha"


Oh, please. Spare us. Shyne is absolutely not sympathetic.

An experiment? Come on. Any normal experiment wouldn't involve a vast sum of meseta like 10 million per item. It was obviously set high to get rich off of an unfortunate individual who happens to carry a lot of money around. This wasn't any better than a scam operation, and if he's not willing to give all of it back, then it says a lot about his character, and shows that this wasn't just any experiment.

The meseta was earned under false pretenses, and he knows it. "Thanks for the 20 mil"? Heh.

Of course, you and Shyne could also be completely unrelated, and you're just saying this to stir up trouble.



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Its comments like this which deters him from returning the entirity. First off, it was one mil per item. Second of all, Shyne is my blood brother. I dont have to prove that. Third off, speaking of irrelevent, who are you?

[Cavarcous]

Why don't people just use the new Bulletin system to post what price they charge for their machine until the text gets fixed? If they don't post it, don't use that person's machine... unless you REALLY want a particular item in it and want to take your chances.

[Midknight]

Never heard of it..... ><

[Nisshoku]

Let's face it, when it comes to something like the Photon Gacha, it's caveat emptor.

Personally, once I get mine, I'll make mine pretty much accessable to pretty much anyone. Although I'm still wondering how much that thing can hold.

[Remedy]

Except the machine is not designed around caveat emptor. The machine in its current status is broken, so you cannot know if it is a 10 meseta Gacha or a 10 million meseta Gacha. It's a bug, and anyone exploiting that is a baseless scumbag who's just as bad as any other form of scammer.

[Wallin]

On 2007-11-25 11:44, Cavarcous wrote:
Why don't people just use the new Bulletin system to post what price they charge for their machine until the text gets fixed? If they don't post it, don't use that person's machine... unless you REALLY want a particular item in it and want to take your chances.



Won't work, honesty is obviously not the strong suit of anyone online who can do whatever they want anonymously.

Happened already on the Sega forums - the shop said 15k and took a million instead. Another guy called BS, went in to test with 15k and the machine said he didn't have enough money.
http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?p=626305&highlight=#626305

[Rashiid]

This indeed is the most intense Baw-fest I've seen all day, I must say.

[Cavarcous]

On 2007-11-25 12:22, Wallin wrote:

On 2007-11-25 11:44, Cavarcous wrote:
Why don't people just use the new Bulletin system to post what price they charge for their machine until the text gets fixed? If they don't post it, don't use that person's machine... unless you REALLY want a particular item in it and want to take your chances.



Won't work, honesty is obviously not the strong suit of anyone online who can do whatever they want anonymously.

Happened already on the Sega forums - the shop said 15k and took a million instead. Another guy called BS, went in to test with 15k and the machine said he didn't have enough money.
http://boards2.sega.com/psu_board/viewtopic.php?p=626305&highlight=#626305


Then I guess ST needs to fix this thing if anyone is going to bother with it. Everyone should just boycott it until then to prevent all this drama.

[Miyuki-chan]

Sounds like a GashaPon machine gone horribly wrong... (And with no anime girls inside either!)

[Carlo210]

I'm definately gonna get me one of those. http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_razz.gif

[Sierhiet]

On 2007-11-25 12:00, Remedy wrote:

On 2007-11-25 11:55, Sierhiet wrote:
And ingenious insults like this are the grown up way to do things, hm? Typical hypocrite. And like stated before, another one deemed irrelevant.It's not an insult, it's a mature analysis of your brother's behaviour. Someone with moral fiber and maturity would apologize to Archer in person and would return the full sum of the money (and Archer, obviously, would return the gacha prizes). Your brother is not doing that. He is pouting because people are questioning his actions.

And I have a fairly decent stake in this, considering that Green Archer is one of my good friends. Anyone that scams my friends has to deal with me, as well. Good friends stick up for each other.

Well, as Green is your good friend, Shyne is my younger brother. Im not going to sit around and watch this situation unfold as if hes about to be placed on e-America's Most Wanted. Say what you want, but in alls end, he could have simply ignored that bulletin placed by Green and kept the full 20mil. He would have done so if he didnt have a single sympathetic bone in his body. On top of that, quote "The situation unfolded as so. Before I went to sleep, I raised the price to 1mil after tinknering with my new room deco. I awoke the next morning to find that someone had spent 20mil on it. After checking his bulletin, I was on my way to returning it when I came across this rediculous thread that I was some crazy scammer. Your telling me, I should apologize in person, when by the time I woke up this morning, this thread was up, and I was being called hacker. You can contact Green, and tell him to check his visitor log. I came in immediatlly this morning after recieving his bulletin, to return the full lump sum. Call it rubbish, if you want, but thats how it took place. But after scanning threw forums this morning, and seeing my so-called character already being defaced, why bother? And to top it off, when Green recieved the mail from my brother (Me) he spoke as if he was going to report me and as if I intentionally set out to scam this single soul out of his 20mil. Very different from the nice bulletin I recieved from him from the night before. Keep in mind, this happened OVER NIGHT while I was sound asleep, and I DID NOT KNOW THE PRICE WAS NOT BEING SHOWN. I just got the the thing, a few days before, and never got to try it out for myself until yesterday. My reasons for keeping the meseta are because I was being accused of something before my peace could even be spoken. (I dont have a keyboard so you'll have to forgive me) And thats it. I just recieved a bulletin from Nova, who came to me politely on bulletin and explained the situation, not bashing me for a flaw which is not mine. It is Sega's. And NO I wasnt exploiting this flaw. I did not know of it until this morning. So Green can give my brother a ring, and we can settle this maturily if he wants. Ill be happy to give the other half back, with a simple apology, as I apologize for the confusion. FYI this could have been avoided if people would'nt instigate a situation which has nothing to do with them" Unquote. So with that, im letting the situation go aswell. Like I said, im only the messenger, and will see were it goes from there. Thank You. Oh and..

Anyone that scams my friends has to deal with me, as well.Yea.. no comment on that.

[Teh_pozzum]

Anyone have a story of someone using this for good?

[Sekani]

If I was Shyne and I had to deal with the reactions I saw in this thread, I'd keep the whole 20 mil. Just saying.

[GreenArcher]

Wow. That's not at all how it went Sierhiet.

03:07:06 <Recv> Sierhiet(20030368)
Wow. 20mil in a Gatcha machine. I presume you need some of that back. It was my brother's...

03:07:06 <Recv> Sierhiet(20030368)
Machine, but he says hes willing to give some back. Just mail me and let me know how much. xD

03:11:24 <Send> Sierhiet(20030368)
I'd like all of it back if possible because that's scamming and I could report him -_-

03:12:06 <Recv> Sierhiet(20030368)
Its not scamming -_- Its not his fault Sega doesnt have the price listed. Blame Sega,

I understand that you guys didn't know the effects it could have, but right away you're saying that not all of my money is going to be returned. All intentions aside, that's scamming, and a reportable offense.

What really bothers me is that you're letting him take advantage of the situation.


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[Carlo210]

If he wants his money back, give it to him, or else you're stealing from him. He didn't give you any money, he jsut tried out a stupid room item that stol way more money than he thought it would. Give him back his money since he didn't intend to give it to you obviously know it was a sorry mistake on his part to use the room item. If you don't give his cash back, it's an offense and is reportable.

[Teh_pozzum]

Well I'm sorry green but to an extent he did not owe all of it back unless you gave the items back and that was not stated by either of you as something you would do...

[GreenArcher]

I will gladly give back his 15ish Vestaline and some Crea Dagger board.

I made this thread to inform people of the broken machine, nowhere did I say that he was a scammer of any sort until I saw a mail saying that I was getting a portion of my money refunded.

Yeah..I see where you coming from now if you thought I made the threat initially to attack your brother.

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[Sierhiet]

On 2007-11-25 13:39, Green_Archer3 wrote:
Wow. That's not at all how it went Sierhiet.

03:07:06 <Recv> Sierhiet(20030368)
Wow. 20mil in a Gatcha machine. I presume you need some of that back. It was my brother's...

03:07:06 <Recv> Sierhiet(20030368)
Machine, but he says hes willing to give some back. Just mail me and let me know how much. xD

03:11:24 <Send> Sierhiet(20030368)
I'd like all of it back if possible because that's scamming and I could report him -_-

03:12:06 <Recv> Sierhiet(20030368)
Its not scamming -_- Its not his fault Sega doesnt have the price listed. Blame Sega,

I understand that you guys didn't know the effects it could have, but right away you're saying that not all of my money is going to be returned. All intentions aside, that's scamming, and a reportable offense.

What really bothers me is that you're letting him take advantage of the situation.


<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: Green_Archer3 on 2007-11-25 13:43 ]</font>
Green, that mail was sent AFTER we viewed this thread. Like I said, check your visitor log. He was so going to return the full sum before hand. And then he read this. I sent the mail, you replied with...

03:11:24 <Send> Sierhiet(20030368)
I'd like all of it back if possible because that's scamming and I could report him -_-

And thats when things got out of hand. And even so, I wasnt disagreeing with you on him giving the full sum anyway. I was however disagreeing on you calling him a scammer. And also, if you havent noticed from this flood of text, I did say I would work on getting the full thing back.

[Flwl3ssCowboy]

Step 1: Note that someone accidentaly put more money into a machine than intended.
Step 2: Return all of said money to Someone who wants their money back.
Step 3: Apologize for the inconvenience/mistake.
Step 4: Everyone gets off your back.


"I came in immediatlly this morning after recieving his bulletin, to return the full lump sum."

"And by full lump sum I mean I'm going to keep half instead because people are yelling at me for charging a rediculous amount of money for a stupid deco. BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!"

I can be freakin' immature but I don't give a shit.

[Noblewine]

Sounds like Sega Finally decided to put cameos/easter eggs in their games again.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

Locked, personal problem within the topic, to douse to flames.