Sony & Nintendo sued again...

[eXo]

People find any way to get paid


http://www.gamespot.com/news/6184585.html?tag=latestnews;title;3



Nintendo, Sony face new patent suit
Wii and PS3 manufacturers taken to court by Pennsylvania man over wireless controller technology.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Jan 10, 2008 5:00 pm PT

Ever since Immersion Corporation won its lawsuit against Sony over the rumble technology in PlayStation and PlayStation 2 DualShock controllers (and eventually forced nearly $100 million in damages and interest from the electronics giant), patent litigation has been a subject of keen interest in the gaming industry.

One of numerous figures from the patent.

The latest dispute comes from the United States District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania, where Copper Innovations Group late last month filed suit against Nintendo and Sony for a patent it holds on a "Hand Held Computer Input Apparatus and Method."

The patent--which was filed in January of 1996--covers a method for connecting devices to a system and sorting their inputs by means of hardware identification numbers tied to each transmission. According to the suit, Nintendo and Sony are violating the Copper Innovations Group's patent by making and selling their systems and controllers. The Wii Remote, Wii Nunchuk, Sixaxis controller, and Blu-ray Remote Control are all named in the suit as infringing products.

Copper Innovations Group is seeking damages plus interest, legal fees, and an injunction permanently prohibiting Sony, Nintendo, or their agents from infringing upon the patent. An attorney for Copper declined to comment on the case (or the omission of Microsoft as a defendant) for GameSpot, while Sony and Nintendo representatives did not return requests for comment.

[Getintothegame]

If you want to be a millionaire the easy way, come up with a patent for something that you know will be popular within the next 10 - 15 years. Wait it out, and sue.

EDIT: But make sure what you patent has a broad interpretation.

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[eXo]

yes like i should have said that i invited this little guy who reacts, to movments input through a device, then sued the gaming industry.

[Rubius-sama]

This is why big companies pay their employees bonus cheques for creating and patenting any new idea, no matter how useless it may seem.

[Scrub]

Wow, Nintendo and Sony stealing shit from other people's ideas again.

Maybe they should take some tips from Microsoft and actually use some originality.

[eXo]

On 2008-01-11 23:33, Scrub wrote:
Wow, Nintendo and Sony stealing shit from other people's ideas again.

Maybe they should take some tips from Microsoft and actually use some originality.



Lets be realistic here, microsoft is still trying to figure out how to make systems that dont ROD for damn reason http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_lol.gif trying to revolutionize the gaming industries controller. Anything better then the original XBOX control is a win for them.

[Sharkyland]

Uh, dual shock? That was quite some time ago. Why didn't they sue them back then? Don't tell me they are just figuring this right now. And with a patent as broad as that title, wouldn't there be more 'things' listed in that besides Sony & Nintendo?

[Ketchup345]

On 2008-01-12 03:22, Sharkyland wrote:
Uh, dual shock? That was quite some time ago. Why didn't they sue them back then? Don't tell me they are just figuring this right now. And with a patent as broad as that title, wouldn't there be more 'things' listed in that besides Sony & Nintendo?The Dual Shock lawsuit did happen a few years ago and has been settled. The article was just referencing it to inform about previous similar lawsuits. This lawsuit is about the wireless part.

Can't say I'm very surprised. Patent reform is necessary as soon as possible.

[Sharkyland]

On 2008-01-12 08:19, Ketchup345 wrote:

On 2008-01-12 03:22, Sharkyland wrote:
Uh, dual shock? That was quite some time ago. Why didn't they sue them back then? Don't tell me they are just figuring this right now. And with a patent as broad as that title, wouldn't there be more 'things' listed in that besides Sony & Nintendo?The Dual Shock lawsuit did happen a few years ago and has been settled. The article was just referencing it to inform about previous similar lawsuits. This lawsuit is about the wireless part.

Can't say I'm very surprised. Patent reform is necessary as soon as possible.



I kinda do agree with that person who commented on that board. Saying that the company has been waiting for them to build up profit so they can get a lot of money from them. But I kinda do agree that there should be a patent reform. I wish I would stop hearing stories about these because it's making me sick. :/

[Mixfortune]

On 2008-01-11 23:33, Scrub wrote:
Wow, Nintendo and Sony stealing shit from other people's ideas again.

Maybe they should take some tips from Microsoft and actually use some originality.



That doesn't even make sense.

And, unless Copper holds some kind of "worldwide patent" of some kind, these consoles are by Japanese corporations, and may just target use of this technology for those controllers made stateside? I'm not quite clear on how that all works.

[Sord]

What bullshit.

HEY GUYS, GUESS WHAT! I MADE A VAGUE PATENT FOR A REMOTE CONTROL! LOL, THE MONIES R ALL MINE NOW.

seriously, bullshit http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif

[AlexCraig]

On 2008-01-12 15:33, Sord wrote:
What bullshit.

HEY GUYS, GUESS WHAT! I MADE A VAGUE PATENT FOR A REMOTE CONTROL! LOL, THE MONIES R ALL MINE NOW.

seriously, bullshit http://www.pso-world.com/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_nono.gif


I completely agree. And they usually only show up when these systems become successful.

HEY! THEY R GETTING MORE MONIES THAN I THOUGHT THEY WOULD! I HAD AN IDEA LIKE THIS! I WILL SUE THEM! LOL

Assholes...

[DizzyDi]

I think Scrub is being sarcastic guys.

[Mixfortune]

On 2008-01-12 16:25, DizzyDi wrote:
I think Scrub is being sarcastic guys.

I think I might've been the only one really addressing it, and it was only for my first line, just in case he was really being sarcastic I didn't bother putting much argument in it.

The rest of my post was more about the topic and Copper, and I'm not quite sure how or where the patent exactly comes into play regarding these controllers for foreign products.

[Zantra]

I don't know about you, but i'm suing the bastards who created the door knob, that was my idea.

[Blitzkommando]

It is funny though seeing all of these companies suing for patents published over a decade ago and have only now found offenders over a year after the products were released, let alone the tech demos going back nearly two years. I guess news travels slower in Pennsylvania. Looks like these patent chasers have wised up though and have stopped suing HP and IBM after seeing so many others get the butthurt from attempting such endeavors.

Also, based on the rather vague language of the patent wouldn't that also include most wireless keyboards and mice since they have a unique signature to prevent cross-interference? Logitech better watch out! Hell, since Nintendo uses Bluetooth couldn't that mean they could sue Nokia and all of the other cellphone companies as well, or anything Bluetooth period since all Bluetooth devices have unique identification numbers? And let's not stop there! Wireless networking has a unique MAC address on every adapter as well. Vague patents like this should never make it through the patenting process simply because they could essentially cover everything even remotely related.

[McLaughlin]

I'm fairly sure they aren't going to win this. The Patent is far too vague. You could twist it to encompass almost anything.

[Dragwind]

I guess its a new fad to claim the gaming industry steals ideas from other companies.

[Temjin-On]

Yeah... don't think about working for money anymore in America guys, let's just file LAWSUITS!

[Shadowpawn]

On 2008-01-12 16:25, DizzyDi wrote:
I think Scrub is being sarcastic guys.



Fooled me, I breathe sarcasm and I thought he was sincere.

As for the topic at hand, I don't think he's going to make another headway with that lawsuit.