25% elemental vs 50% elemental weapon question

[Katrina]

I don't quite understand the damage formula for elemental %'s and have a few questions.

Say I'm using a 50% weapon doing 1000 dmg per hit (on avg).

How much of a reduction would I get dmg wise for using a 25% weapon vs the 50%?

Thank you for any replies.

[icewyrm]

I'm not certain myself... I think it's your combined ATP with the element modifier against it. So if you are doing 1000 dmg to an ice enemy with a 50% fire weapon, and you switch to a neutral, you'll do 666 dmg, and if you switch to a 25% fire, you'll do around 832?

In other words, if your damage with a neutral of the equiv weapon was 666, a 25% would be 830 or so and a 50% would be around 1000. At least, thats how I THOUGHT it works.


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[Zorafim]

That was recently changed to only modifying your weapon's ATP. In other words, a 50% axe with 1000 atp will now have 1500 if used against an enemy of the opposite element. At least, I think that's what happened. At any rate, it doesn't modify your base ATP anymore, since it was way too effective when doing that (twin daggers hitting like axes, etc).

[drizzle]

Well if a 50% weapon does 1000 damage the damage without an element would be around 666. Add 25% to 666 and you get ~832.

It's not 100% exact but, close enough.

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[Zoamel_Gustav]

Element attribute percentages still modifying your total ATP (Att.), not only your weapon's ATP. Rather the effect of the percentages were reduced to 75% of what is shown.

The elemental attribute percentages of creatures is 5%.
Element percentages change the incoming attack, not the target's defenses.
Every 5 points of ATP adds 1 point of HP damage, but will be modified by element percentages.
Every 5 points of DFP prevents 1 point of HP damage, at the end.


The basic damage formula looks like this: (wrong elements are negative element%)

(((Attacker's element% + Target's element%) + 100%) x 75%) = Total Element%

((Total Element %) x (Attacker's Total Att. / 5)) - (Target's Total Def. / 5) = Damage as HP.


This means a 50% weapon of the right element does about 35.25% more damage then a neutral version against the same target before applying Def.'s damage reduction.

Example:

LV 130 Go Vahra has about 446 total def. (89 point prevention). Let's say someone has 4026 total Att. (805 base damage).

neutral weapon: 716 damage (100.% Base -89)
25% ground: 986 damage (122.5% Base -89)
50% ground: 1000 damage (135.25% Base -89)