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Longinous
Jun 21, 2008, 09:21 AM
I am trying to get myself and my friends a couple God/Powers and it seems that they just do not want to spawn.

Every other rare enemy seems to pop up within 30 to 60 mins of me piping but these just don't for me...

are Pouilly Slime less common? because if that is case I can settle for a less drop rate on the God/Power from Mil Lilies.

DC_PLAYER
Jun 21, 2008, 10:44 AM
split them, use rabarta or a untekked common weapon and do special/special/normal, the 3rd hit will split them.

do the quest Addicting Food and split them, once all are splited and if you see a rare slime, KILL THE RARE SLIME 1st, ignore the others

each 4 slimes only drop 1 item i beleive, if you kill a normal one then the drop has been activated and they won't drop items anymore (considering the group of 4 slimes that apear/splited)

Longinous
Jun 21, 2008, 11:33 AM
i knew about splitting them, but i didn't know that the loot worked like that, that is pretty bad considering they often kill each other.

Maybe I will just wait until ultimate to hunt them off the lilies because these guys just aren't showing up for me.

Jaspaller
Jun 21, 2008, 10:17 PM
Red Slimes are IMO the worst enemies to get rares from.

Longinous
Jun 22, 2008, 09:48 AM
I think I agree with you Jaspaller. I have put 10 hours into hunting them down and I am still empty handed. Viridia 7/8 chance for god power off Pouilly slime in VH, but I think I will just wait until ultimate, i have had better luck with lilies in the past anyway, even with just a 1/2 drop rate.

R2D6battlebot
Jun 22, 2008, 09:49 AM
Back in my PSO days, red slimes were by far the most uncommon rare monster for me to hunt, but it may have had something to do with being unable to stay awake during the hunts (damn that Caves music :P)

DC_PLAYER
Jun 22, 2008, 11:14 AM
i have piped them, i would say in the beguining it would be1 in every 2 hours of piping 4 slimes, now i say it's 1 in 3 or 4 hours, haven't seen one in quite some time and the item i want is 1/+80 not to mention i pipe for a slime that is 1/1024 apearence rate.

so, you play a quest were you can split 8 at a time, apearnce rate is 1/512, drop rate of item i beleive it is less then 1/80 and even so you can't find the rare enemy?
just enter the quest, if i find them then you will find them easily.

Longinous
Jun 23, 2008, 12:07 AM
the item i want has a 7/8 chance to drop i heard.

and while yes you can do quest over and over again you have to take time just to get to caves 2. if I encountered slimes in caves 1 i would atleast just clean up caves 1 and restart quest as is though, I will have a much easier time hunting red slimes by piping, which again seems to suck as is.

Galaxox
Jun 23, 2008, 12:32 AM
Personally hunting for red slimes is funner than hunting other rare monsters (except rappys, fake in yellow ftw). Atleast you use rabarta or w/e.
However i didnt knew that you have to kill the red one first, can someone confirm this please?

Splash
Jun 23, 2008, 01:48 AM
Always red one first just to be safe. There are possible chances that the red one will not drop anything if any of the blue ones are killed first.

Poufuilly Slimes are better to pipe than to do runs with. Unlike other monsters that can change to rare counterparts, there are very few Poufuilly Slimes around in Caves so it makes it very difficult to actually get the Pouilly Slime out when doing runs.

To be quite honest, the only time Pouilly Slimes are worth piping over for are the rares in Ultimate. In VH, you can easily find the same rare in Ultimate later on. Unless you are really desparate, in which I suggest you do runs in VH instead just to get more EXP and hunt it in Ultimate later when you are a higher enough level.

Galaxox
Jun 23, 2008, 01:12 PM
Always red one first just to be safe. There are possible chances that the red one will not drop anything if any of the blue ones are killed first.

Poufuilly Slimes are better to pipe than to do runs with. Unlike other monsters that can change to rare counterparts, there are very few Poufuilly Slimes around in Caves so it makes it very difficult to actually get the Pouilly Slime out when doing runs.

To be quite honest, the only time Pouilly Slimes are worth piping over for are the rares in Ultimate. In VH, you can easily find the same rare in Ultimate later on. Unless you are really desparate, in which I suggest you do runs in VH instead just to get more EXP and hunt it in Ultimate later when you are a higher enough level.
Well viridias get devil/battles in vh from them, but yeah, i rather pipe them than just do runs.

Splash
Jun 23, 2008, 01:20 PM
Well viridias get devil/battles in vh from them

They don't though...Viridias get Devil/Battle from Nar Lilies.

Galaxox
Jun 23, 2008, 01:21 PM
They don't though...Viridias get Devil/Battle from Nar Lilies.
My bad i meant orans.

Longinous
Jun 23, 2008, 01:50 PM
lol I just want god powers, i need to farm up 5, one for me and 2 for each of my friends, until i can do that my friend is not gonna hook me up with the 3 god hp he farmed.

ya i am gonna just get to ultimate cause i want my red saber already god dang it.

BruteFOrce
Jun 23, 2008, 02:50 PM
i had the same problem on ultimate cave. I was looking for a rare slime to get a morning glory.
I just split and piped. now i have 6 morning glorys.

Lance813
Jun 23, 2008, 08:14 PM
i think hildetorrs are the hardest to find, either that or blues. Damn Bears

Im about to start mah Sange hunt part 4

toly369
Jul 14, 2008, 09:04 PM
Yeah, for Pouilly Slimes you have to kill the red one first and none of the blue ones can die or the drop will have already been used for the blue one that dies. I didn't know this and piped maybe 5 Pouilly Slimes, resulting in me getting nothing each time I kill them, being suspicious, going on psoworld, finding out about not letting any of the others die first, getting mad, and restarting my hunt :D.

This means that while you pipe and split them, none of the blue ones can die at any time. And since on Ultimate it's a pain in the ass to have none of them kill each other, I just decided to pipe in that room that has two original blue slimes off spawn and not split them. Addicting food or some quest like that. It's the quest that has a bunch of lillies in a circular perimeter around the room later on.

Yeah, it took forever piping with 2 slimes and not splitting, but I didn't have to worry about any of the blue ones killing each other and cheating me out of a drop. It took 9 Pouilly Slimes with this method to get my Lavis Cannon, but I think it was worth it.

Mithlug
Nov 23, 2011, 02:35 PM
I don't think the whole "share drop rate"-thing is correct. I just killed 8 slimes divided from 2 first and got 2 items. Wanting to test this theory I went on, finding a single slime. I divided it into 4 then killed them. I got 3 items.

So the difficulty lies in finding out how this effects telepiping. Would killing 3 slimes out of 4, getting 3 items, then telepiping and repeat the process work? Probably not, the drop rate for each clone has probably been used. So you don't want to end up with to many killed slimes but even if you have killed all 7 there is still a chance of getting a red slime that gives loot.

Hope someone will do some further testing here.

TrueChaos
Nov 25, 2011, 02:35 PM
i doubt it too, i've had numerous red slimes that i've killed last and still got the rare item. each one counts as an individual enemy with it's own drop

toly369
Aug 27, 2012, 05:05 AM
I should have modified my post to state that none of the blue slimes can die WHILE you are piping. If a blue slime dies and you re-enter the pipe and continue piping, future slimes split from the group that originally had a blue slime die won't drop anything.

However, if you can manage to pipe a red slime without any of the blue ones dying during the piping, then it seems that all of the slimes are then considered individual enemies with their own drops.