Final Fantasy: Dissidia

[Toadthroat]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38926.html

This game is gunna be fucking awesome.

[Tyreek]

Agreed. A majority of the FF generation cast all meeting up in one game? I sense an uberness of epic proportions.

[UnderscoreX]

Now we can finally find out who's more strongerer, Sephiroth or Kefka!

That's actually my only problem with the game (which looks more and more incredible everytime it's shown), I can already see the crazy amounts of people using this as the next level of GameFAQs Character Battle thing.

[Saner]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/38926.html


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjE0h0Wx23I

awaaaaaah! why not on PS2. >____<

oh well, anyways it has pretty epic battle potential. the realtime combat blows away
the comabt systems of past FF games and even KH games. It's pretty amazing someone
in SE was able to make these universal FF fighting game without turning into another
Virtua Fighter clone. :p

the Virtual On/Tenkaichi perspective works much better which offers more freedom and
depth to positioning and angle of attacks. But ya this sure is looking amazing. ^^

[Saner]

oh DIDN'T NOTICE their topic.




they need to work on more attention-grabbing topic titles. :lol:

too bad it's on a lame system with a lame screen size. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjE0h0Wx23I

what a waste of a good title tossed into a portable.

but anyways, here is what someone posted elsewhere. :p

Famistu Interview Translation
FF7AC Reunion posted a transcription of Famitsu's latest interview with Testuya Nomura and it included some interesting details about Dissidia.

--- The Cloud of Darkness looks rather voluptous.

Mr. Nomura: Although some people may have been surprised at seeing a different design than what was in the original game - since by design she didn't possess a lower body - we decided to base her on Mr. Amano's illustration this time around.

--- It seems that with the Onion Knight, he appears to take elements from multiple designs.

Mr. Nomura: That's correct. We started with the sprite as the base and then incorporated details from Amano and Ishii Koichi's illustrations.

--- And for the Ninja and Sage designs?

Mr. Nomura: Those were from the sprites. In FF3, Amano designed an enemy version of the Ninja that influenced the design. The Sage was based completely around the sprite, with the DS version used to fill in the details. Since FF3 didn't have as many set illustrations, there were a lot of troubles with the design. The coloring is a reference to the illustrations of Ishii which became the basis of the sprites.

--- Why were the Ninja and Sage jobs chosen?

Mr. Nomura: When we were planning "Dissidia" and first told to the staff that we had decided on the appearance of the Onion Knight, we agreed that he would preform a job change. I had the staff decide on which jobs.

--- For the Onion Knight, it was really cool to have chosen the commands of the EX burst.

Mr. Nomura: I think that we were very conscious about capturing some of the intensity of the original.

--- And with the new trailer, we had Kefka's arrival.

Mr. Nomura: In fact, although they appear in silhouette, all the characters appear and shine (smiles). We kept the members of FF4, FF5, and FF6 in the back though.

--- And there won't be anyone from FF11?

Mr. Nomura: I can't say anything yet.

--- As for Jecht being on the side of Chaos, we have thought "Ah, so Jecht is evil?" (smile)

Mr. Nomura: Unlike the side of Cosmos, the only attribute connecting the side of Chaos is that their different personal goals are only similar by chance. The members are simply members, and not all of their plans are necessarily evil. On the side of Cosmos though, they have a specific reason for seeking the crystals.

--- With the newest trailer, the characters are shown moving on something like a chess board as if they were game pieces. But we only got a glimpse at this system......

Mr. Nomura: That is from a portion of the game outside of the battles. So far, other than when it comes to the story portions, the staff decided that, "There shouldn't necessarily be a field like an RPG," and the system we came up with is like a chessboard.

--- So when you advance your piece forward, that will initiate an encounter?

Mr. Nomura: Various battles and events occur on the board. We'll explain the details to the public soon. I can tell you that the feeling of seeing the characters as "the pawns in the Gods' game" which was mentioned in the trailers, is primarily what the design is supposed to evoke.


I dunno depending on how good this game, I might consider getting a PSP. but chances are I'll wait till they are about 70 bucks. :p

[Ketchup345]

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146479
Extensive comments from the thread creator are required if linking to a news article.

[Toadthroat]

Sorry Saner. I guess I just don't have what it takes to be an exciting video game news poster like you.
But ya, I'm excited for this game. :burger:
Say what you want about it being on the PSP, but that system has been pumping out some good'uns lately.

[Saner]

Sorry Saner. I guess I just don't have what it takes to be an exciting video game news poster like you.
But ya, I'm excited for this game. :burger:
Say what you want about it being on the PSP, but that system has been pumping out some good'uns lately.


ya sorry I wasn't boasting or criticizing or anything. *bow* I don't mean to disrespect. ^^

But ya I admit PSP is getting such great games, that's why I''m upset lol. :lol:

but ya, PSP for CV:DXC, and Dissidia and FFT War of the Lions.

ah well. whats done is done, I'll just see if I can get a PSP later on to play these games
or something. :D

[Mewnie]

Now we can finally find out who's more strongerer, Sephiroth or Kefka!



Golbez will destroy the wannabe juggalo and weaboo wet dream handily >:3

(although Kefka is miles more interesting than Sephy-poo)

[Saner]

um wouldn't Zemus/Zeromus end up being chosen for FF4's villain in this game, instead of
Golbez? well yeah, for FF9 they chose Kuja over Necron. so ya, makes sense.


I really wanna see what they do with Bartz, X-Death, Terra, and Kefka's Dissidia appearance.

[Mewnie]

I thought I saw Golbez in one of the trailers, but on second thought, it might be Garland, which would be even more sweet :3

[Toadthroat]

Yeah Garland is in the game. I think Golbez too but don't quote me on that.

[Adriano]

I will be shocked if cloud doesnt make some appearance! But change is good no? :lol:

[Kard]

Meh, Kefka. >:/

And, a PSP game... >:/

I'm getting tired of these horrible handhelds taking games away from me. I'm a console or PC-onry person. I guess I can't ignore Sony's other cash-cow forever... >_>

[Zorafim]

Sweet, I can't wait to knock people down as Garland.

[Split]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOY56FHJc3s

I don't know if this is 100% correct, but this video's more info section has a confirmed characters thing and apparently Golbez is the FFIV villain

EDIT: dammit i just wanna post the link, PSOW!!

[Zarode]

Ugh.

Everything I hate, rolled into one package.

[Saner]

56k warning

http://www.dissidia-france.com/img/temp/gabranth.jpg

http://www.dissidia-france.com/img/temp/jump_gabranth.jpg

http://www.dissidia-france.com/img/temp/gabranth_screen.jpg

teh epicness!

[Monochrome]

^ Oh snap! That is awesome...

One of only 3 characters I actually found appealing in FFXII!

[Split]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib3bsmIIGOM

it's basically like advent children, except you can play it.......!!!!!!!

[Saner]

SQUALL VS SQUALL

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=v4N06qqR10Y

THE EXTREME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :burger:

also they rate the difficulty of each story mode:

http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/

[UnderscoreX]

Should have been Dr Cid, they have enough suits of armour already and a distinct lack of a Cid.

Also the new trailer has been subbed: http://community.livejournal.com/ffchaoticcosmos/31090.html

[Saner]

TERRA VS. TERRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @______@


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHBmVs9H1H4

:burger:

(keep in mind these are at low levels in Dissidia, and the player is still learning the game.)

[Alnet]

Forgive me for being late to the party but... o3o

It's like some kind of Final Fantasy ZOE fighting game...?

[VanHalen]

You know I never really been much of a FF fan but after watching some of these videos I feel like getting a PSP for this.

[Randomness]

Question:How do you add Terra's esper form without the game getting an M rating?

[Saner]

Question:How do you add Terra's esper form without the game getting an M rating?

simple, the same way Capcom got away with Felicia being naked. :p

BARTZ vs. CLOUD!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUjRVVvzRho&fmt=6

TIDUS vs. SQUALL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTyRB-qCf_Q&feature=channel_page

(they really got to level everyone too lv.99 and then play on hard before we can see the REAL fights. ^^; )

INTRO VIDEO (reversed but better than nothin.)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tfKcfNkoZjI

The badassness that is FRIONEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^_____________^


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=924fj9lWRqk&feature=channel_page

SQUALL VS. CLOUD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CISzKC2dI8&feature=channel_page

[Vanzazikon]

Question:How do you add Terra's esper form without the game getting an M rating?I was wondering the same thing... >_>;

[UnderscoreX]

Amano's Cloud of Darkness redesign is a hell of a lot more revealing, so I wouldn't worry about Terra.


Forgive me for being late to the party but... o3o

It's like some kind of Final Fantasy ZOE fighting game...?

It's like Smash Brother's but with characters who actually make sense fighting each other. Final Fan Service the game.

[Kard]

I'm just glad they've allowed Ultimecia's beauty to grace another game. I've always been crazy about her character design. And did I see Shanttoto in one of those shots? Holy crap!

Again, not a big fan of handhelds at all, but damn this game has me jealous.

[Outrider]

It's like Smash Brother's but with characters who actually make sense fighting each other. Final Fan Service the game.

This game makes just about as much sense as Smash Bros.

If they want to get really obscure with their characters, they should throw in the hero from Mystic Quest.

A generic character from a mediocre game that nobody played!

(Compare that to all the generic characters from mediocre games that people have played, which makes up most of this game's cast. ZING!)

[Saner]

ANNOUNCED FOR U.S. in 2009
http://kotaku.com/5113108/final-fantasy-dissidia-comes-stateside-this-summer

ULTIMECIA vs. EMPEROR! (that player must be still getting used to it. those vertical
shots are best used from maximum distance.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm18182o0hk

WARRIOR OF LIGHT vs. EMPEROR (epic!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbhbktzDDew&feature=channel_page

EXDEATH vs. BARTZ! (their first time)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2L9VHjgm3Y&feature=channel_page

TIDUS vs. SEPHIROTH! (very good player!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAYpa_DO-NM

EMPEROR vs. EXDEATH!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2bIx4fBEUI

BARTZ vs. SEPHIROTH! (Cinematic Mode!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdH6LIrmbC4

CLOUD OF DARKNESS vs. SEPHIROTH! (very good fight and a surprise finish!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_lzQwd_mPY

TERRA STORY SAMPLE (deep)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgxVN4uU94c&feature=channel_page

CECIL vs. EXDEATH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Gilgamesh theme!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-engnGGjhEM

EXDEATH vs. WARRIOR OF LIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (this is how you use EXDEATH!!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkjuthUukcU

[Vanzazikon]

Cool! Looks like you can use Cecil as the Dark Knight (Which I liked better)

Although, they killed his voice in FF4DS. I've always thought he had a deeper voice than Kain. And Kain's Crispin Freeman voice was awesome (I always thought he had a British accent for some reason)

[Saner]

SHANTOTO!!!! OHHHHHHOHOHOHOHOHOHO! XD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ORycaWsxIA&translated=1&yt&yt

oh might as well post it here. NEW FFXIII scan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ^^
new battle system GUI too.

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/media/scans/shonenjump/06.jpg

not sure if this is true but translators say Sera's real name is Wolva Daia Vanilla.

:burger:

[Sinue_v2]

So where's Fighter and White Mage?

Also, not to get OT, but does anyone else think a Phantasy Star type game like this would be pretty cool? Have Alis, Rolf, Chaz, Rhys, Rico, Ethan, (and supporting characters) fighting Zio, Lassic, Siren, Mother Brain, Rulakir, Proto-form Olga Flow, Howzer, Helga... etc? Plus maybe even throw in a create-a-character via Soul Calibur III/IV w/ PS, PSO, PSU customization?

[Saner]

So where's Fighter and White Mage?

Also, not to get OT, but does anyone else think a Phantasy Star type game like this would be pretty cool? Have Alis, Rolf, Chaz, Rhys, Rico, Ethan, (and supporting characters) fighting Zio, Lassic, Siren, Mother Brain, Rulakir, Proto-form Olga Flow, Howzer, Helga... etc? Plus maybe even throw in a create-a-character via Soul Calibur III/IV w/ PS, PSO, PSU customization?

Warrior of Light is fighter. he's basically a fighter and his EX-Mode is the knight-class.

that would be cool but the problem is I dunno how Sega makes decisions, they can't seem to make a really good Sonic game these days, and I fear a Phantasy Star fighting game will end up using Street Fighter or Virtua Fighter mechanics (I prefer Virtua On, ZOE, Tenkaichi and Dissidia's perspective and mechanics.) and on top of that, the art style would probably be based 99% on PSO/PSU character designs, which isn't a bad thing but it really makes the classic heroes look not as cool as they originally do.

Sega would really need a team that respects the characters, art, and games and everything and know what they're doing. so yeah that's really hard to do, they would need an external developer team to do it. though if its 2-D, I wouldn't mind Arc Systems making it, but the downside is that sprites are somewhat harder to do than 3-D models. since animation for each sprite has to be redone almost from scratch for every single frame of animation. that leads to
less playable characters and smaller movesets.

plus although it works for popular 2-D fighting games, that style just feels to restrained compared
to 3-D enviornments and characters.




I just fear that a Phantasy Star Fighter might end up like Castlevania Judgement, which totally chose the WRONG artist (oh my gosh, they RUINED Simon, Maria and Shanoa), the WRONG gameplay mechanics, and totally wrong direction with it. plus the graphics are kinda flakey. :p

anyways, PS doesn't really need a fighter, even Dissidia is limited to just 1 on 1 duels, and
since it's on PSP, there's virtually no true online play. the fighting is cool and flashy, but that's all there is really, besides the grinding.

anyways, another match vid.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B70hpsVUjc0

[Split]

So where's Fighter and White Mage?

Also, not to get OT, but does anyone else think a Phantasy Star type game like this would be pretty cool? Have Alis, Rolf, Chaz, Rhys, Rico, Ethan, (and supporting characters) fighting Zio, Lassic, Siren, Mother Brain, Rulakir, Proto-form Olga Flow, Howzer, Helga... etc? Plus maybe even throw in a create-a-character via Soul Calibur III/IV w/ PS, PSO, PSU customization?It's not a well known enough series, story-wise. However, I do think that for PSU they should just gypsy this entire game's combat system because it's much better real time combat than anything sonic team has ever done...and it would be sick online

[Saner]

GABRANTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! @______________@

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PSHkZm5U8wQ

ya people whine that he uses Basch's quickenings, but they are twins anyway, besides,
there is speculation that the alternate costume is Basch, with the scar on his forehead.
not sure but anyways even if it's Basch posing as Gabranth, that's cool too.



it kinda
makes sense either way since Basch cut his hair like Noah anyways.

but the FF victory music is Villain themed. so I think it's Noah. besides, I'm sure Noah has his
own special attacks as normal moves.

[UnderscoreX]

Phantasy Star isn't anywhere near popular enough anymore for it to work, maybe if it released on the Saturn after all the Genesis games.


This game makes just about as much sense as Smash Bros.

I meant the characters fighting in general, each character actually fought in their respective games unlike for example Peach or Zelda who just got kidnapped a lot. there may be exceptions to this rule that I don't care about

I'm not in any way denying that this game is a stupid idea and entirely designed to milk the fanchise, but as a huge Final Fantasy fan I'm okay with that. And uh used to it.

[UnderscoreX]

Square just announced the NA release "sometime mid '09"
Q1 and Q2 are looking so so awesome next year.

[Outrider]

To me, Dissidia just screams "Melodramatic nancy boys and silly action, but it's all totally serious and will make you cry with its beauty", which to me is a problem with Final Fantasy. They really start to fumble when they take themselves too seriously outside of the context of the game. The reason I think Smash Bros works is simply because it just doesn't take itself seriously (barring Subspace Emissary - that's a whole different creature and I'm still not sure how I feel about it). The entire game is done as just a big fun mash-up.

This game, though... I dunno. It seems like it's all about making these massive epic battles with these ridiculous characters (made even more ridiculous when put in close proximity of each other) and then it tries to make the entire game into a serious ordeal.

(And don't get me wrong - I understand the urge to have ridiculous fan-fictiony stuff like this. When I was younger, my brother and I made a pen and paper Final Fantasy RPG with a party made up of one hero from each of the games. Trust me, I get it.)

It really seems to be celebrating all the problems of Final Fantasy. It's like, not only are they trying to show off with pride that so many people consider the series to be a monolithic ivory tower, but they're also trying to add a two-car garage and nobody seems to think that's weird.

Then again, I loved Kingdom Hearts and its sequel, so maybe I actually do love that stuff so long as it's weighed evenly with Disney characters.

[Shadowpawn]

Lkie OMG, Sephy vs. Kefka FTW1 lololololololololololololololololololololo!!! :-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o:-o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKDJ_wAuMSQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhulAQhpmm4

[Nitro Vordex]

I looked at one of the gameplay videos and thought of Budokai Tenkaichi.

Sad, I thought it was gonna be something new.

[Saner]

hey Tenkaichi games are GREAT! much better than the Virtua Fighter/Tekken/DOA perspective/formula. :p

[Shadowpawn]

hey Tenkaichi games are GREAT! much better than the Virtua Fighter/Tekken/DOA perspective/formula. :p


This, my friends, is sheer blasphemy. Of the highest order.

[Adriano]

This, my friends, is sheer blasphemy. Of the highest order.

Okay, I googled what the budokai thing was (lol) and I've played it before, wasn't really all that fun IMO,
I'm just gonna go out ona limb and say with DBZ games, you play one, you've played them all lol..
Tekken is one of the best fighting games IMO, Doa isn't bad either...but Dbz? :disapprove:

10/10SanerLOL:burger:
And if anything, Dissidia reminds me of Shinobi/Nightshade , and I think people are forgetting that this game is on PSP.

See lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLWT2_qV9LA&NR=1

[Shadowpawn]

EX Brusts


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x86sRvwNEI&feature=related

[ThePainMaker]

Now we can finally find out who's more strongerer, Sephiroth or Kefka!

That's actually my only problem with the game (which looks more and more incredible everytime it's shown), I can already see the crazy amounts of people using this as the next level of GameFAQs Character Battle thing.

I have played the game and i can happily say that sephiroth kick everyones ass

[Itachi1990]

I have the JP game...its f'ing awesome even though i dont understand what they say the battle system is great id say this is the best fighting game the other get boring to fast just kicking and punching in a little arena BUT this is like a big stage where you can run up the obstacles i cant wait till the english version so i can understand the storys.

[Saner]

a true Squall master!!!! lv. 100 vs. 105. no damage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCpI_BWFEc

[jShazBot]

My brother downloaded this game a while ago and what I have seen of it so far has all been awesome. But he says theres no Wifi (Internet) for the game. WHICH REALLY BLOWS. Why even bother getting good at this game (if it even takes skill and isn't just a bunch of pretty special effects) if you can't even show your skills off on the internet, to the world.

FAIL

lol, Of course he could be wrong because he can't read Japanese, and I don't feel like researching this.
If I'm wrong. please don't hurt me. :P

[Itachi1990]

a true Squall master!!!! lv. 100 vs. 105. no damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZCpI_BWFEc

Thats actually not that hard to do beacause not every hit in this game does damage.

[Shadowpawn]

My brother downloaded this game a while ago and what I have seen of it so far has all been awesome. But he says theres no Wifi (Internet) for the game. WHICH REALLY BLOWS. Why even bother getting good at this game (if it even takes skill and isn't just a bunch of pretty special effects) if you can't even show your skills off on the internet, to the world.

FAIL

lol, Of course he could be wrong because he can't read Japanese, and I don't feel like researching this.
If I'm wrong. please don't hurt me. :P

In Japan they have a feature called Ad Hoc for their PS3 that allows PSP to be played online. Here in the U.S., you have to uses Xlink (or whatever it's called) and some networking tools to do so.

[Saner]

yea but that's still cheap quality and miniscule community
compared to if they released this game on XBL Arcade and PSN with online playability.