Did you know that PSU is a video game?

[W0LB0T]

Startling news this! But its true. Ive tested it. It looks like a Video game, it plays like a video game. It smells like a Video game and it even tastes like a video game. (last two statements may have not actually been tested.)


I was always under the impression that Video games where a thing used to provide entertainment. But for some of you, it doesn't seem that way. You people act like its SEROIUS FUCKING BUSNESS. Like its your job or something. Its not like there is some person(s) forcing you to play it, or more favorable circumstances being paid to play it. (not bloody likely). Your all complaining about every minuscule detail and completely flipping out when something minor goes wrong (this doesn't happen often. Most of the time its a monumental cock up. In this case your free to bitch and moan at will. I mean properly monumental like every ones good mate error 065)


so the point I'm getting at is that if PSU is boring and has many glaring or minor faults, why don't just go do something else? There is plenty of other things to do.


Automated replies:

Q:But Mr. Australian robot sir, I pay a monthly fee to play this game. I demand perfection.
A: why the hell are you giving them money for something you don't like. Guardians licenses are not a tax. you don't have to pay it. some bad dudes aint gonna rock up to your house and rough you up just becasue you don't spend money on one. Use that money to purchase something better.


Q: OMG dis rant 2 long and r ghey. 2 many big wrds
A: Its called English, did you learn it at school per chance? Oh well tl:dr version: Don't waste money and time on a game you don't like.


Q: but I like PSU but it has too many faults.

A; just accept these faults as facts. Or hack into the source code, reprogram it your self, set up your own private server and play the PSU you want. because we sure as hell Sonic Team (not SEGAC you mentally deficient so and so's) ain't gonna do it.

[Kylie]

First of all, most message boards have their negative commentators, especially large ones that a lot of the active population of whatever game go to, and I've seen it a lot worse than here. But I know that doesn't excuse the negativity here. I do think some situations call for criticism though, and there's a way to go about that criticism intelligently. Unfortunately, the criticism by average people on PSU and other games isn't done right most of the time. It's just a game like you said, and people should remember not to be too affected by stuff that happens.

[Inazuma]

wow thanks for opening my eyes. this whole time i was thinking that improving the game and fixing problems was the way to go but you set me straight. from now on i will hope that PSU never improves. hell, maybe it will get worse! that would really be awesome, right?

and i should stop working hard and trying to become good at things. lol, i thought it was fun to achieve goals after putting in lots of hard work. how silly that sounds now. hey what about those fools who work really hard at sports and end up winning world championships? haha, they are the ultimate losers, rite? i hope i never become that successful b/c its not enjoyable at all.

hey W0LB0T, you seem like the right person to ask about this. can you give some advice to fools like me on how to fail at things? thanks a lot

[Aisha379]

Its because Sonic Team has been making empty promises and tripping over themselves.

Lets take MAG, for example:

1. Yay, MAG is out, fun for everyone!

2. Oh wait, so many people have been 065'd! Well, we'll do the event again!

3. MAG 2 comes out (a month or two after initially stated), now everyone gets a cha-

4. No wait. Some people are STILL 065'd.

5. In order to relieve the tension for this, we'll have Neudaiz GBR! (uh...okay...actually I don't see a problem with this part, though lots of people thought it sucked.)

6. The people are getting bored, so we'll give them a brand new mission! *Bladed Legacy Obtained!*

7. Oops hold on. The boss boxes are broken.

8. Weeks later, the boss boxes are STILL broken.



When this is basically our schedule, pushing us ever further and further back from the release of new content (read: JP servers), you'd have to be mental or a pure Sega ass-kissing fan NOT to get a little upset.


However, I agree with you to an extent, some people whine about too many things, and nothing makes them happy. But those hopelessly negative people aside, there are way too many glaring problems in the game for any sensible person to ignore.

Also, as far as "You don't have to pay for it", while true, is a bit beside the point. Most people here love the Phantasy Star series and can see what great potential it has, so its really hard to see its own parent company make such a mess of things SO BADLY, to where one would actually think it was intentional, to this great idea with so much potential.

I'm a fence sitter on the situation. I renew my subscription for a month or two at a time, tops. Taking breaks of about the same length. I wish PSU would get better, but I doubt that will happen under its current management. So many good ideas have just gone horribly wrong, and instead of listening to the (valid) complaints from their customers, Sonic Team is just turning a blind eye to it.

I hope PSU will either turn awesome or just completely die out and get the plug pulled on it soon. So that I can finally make up my mind for sure if I want to keep paying or not.

And yes, despite the juvenile approach some people take to the situation, people who pay for something DO have a right to complain about the service. If a company held a financial meeting for its share holders and they raised concerns about something, and the CEO turned and said "Don't like it? No ones forcing you to buy our stock", that company will crash to the ground overnight because everyone will sell their stock and find a better investment.

Luckily, for Sega, they have a lot of devoted fans keeping them afloat. The sad part is, they take them for granted.



hey W0LB0T, you seem like the right person to ask about this. can you give some advice to fools like me on how to fail at things? thanks a lot

*bites tounge extremely hard*

[Sharkyland]

I'm just lagging on the servers... unless it's my dumb connection.

[Sidney]

and i should stop working hard and trying to become good at things. lol, i thought it was fun to achieve goals after putting in lots of hard work. how silly that sounds now. hey what about those fools who work really hard at sports and end up winning world championships? haha, they are the ultimate losers, rite? i hope i never become that successful b/c its not enjoyable at all.

hey W0LB0T, you seem like the right person to ask about this. can you give some advice to fools like me on how to fail at things? thanks a lot

I think it's because it's best to work hard and become talented in things that... I don't know, actually matter in real life? Like getting an education or excelling at work, or a talent that contributes to society? Sitting on your ass playing videogames definitely does not count.

Basically, I agree with the OP. Fresh air is a wonderful thing! I get on PSU about once a week, so while some issues bother me, in the grand scheme of things, I really could care less.

[Noblewine]

I still find the game enjoyable so I'm not really bored by the lack of updates. I'm usually just revisiting old missions I ran through and enjoyed when I started playing. I'm well aware that it's a game but after I get off work I wanna relax and play something for awhile before I prepare for tomorrow.

[furrypaws]

No, I don't have to pay for it. And quite likely, I'm not going to much longer. End of story.

*finds loophole*

Offline mode could still use some expanding. Casino lobby? Internal clock (actually, don't remember for sure if PS2 had one)? People screwing with the clock to get holidays doesn't really matter, since it's offline.

Sometimes it just bothers me to watch "the server" of PSO operate near perfection and better than the ones Sega had while we pay $10 a month for an ever failing community with a community which I could almost swear is probably smaller than "the server"'s now.

You know, I would like to see someone reprogram some of PSU's bugs. Wouldn't that be kind of a kick in the face to Sega now? =D Of course, it's harder than it sounds, but I've seen reskin projects before, I've seen content updates before, and there's no reason that with enough work, someone could fix up PSU a little. As for running their own servers, not too sure about that...

I don't want perfection. But honestly, is it too much now a days to expect decency out of Sega?

[Inazuma]

I think it's because it's best to work hard and become talented in things that... I don't know, actually matter in real life? Like getting an education or excelling at work, or a talent that contributes to society? Sitting on your ass playing videogames definitely does not count.

Basically, I agree with the OP. Fresh air is a wonderful thing! I get on PSU about once a week, so while some issues bother me, in the grand scheme of things, I really could care less.


i agree that real life stuff is important but whenever someone does decide to sit on their ass and play video games, whats so bad about doing your best at it and wanting the game's problems to be fixed? is it impossible for someone to work hard and aim for success in all aspects of their life?

btw, the correct saying is "i couldn't care less". its annoying how many ppl say it wrong ><

[stukasa]

I'm always happy for updates but I'm not dependent on updates to enjoy this game like a lot of other people seem to be. Honestly, the biggest reason I want updates is because it keeps other people playing, and as long as other people keep playing they won't shut down the servers, which means I get to keep playing!

I don't know, maybe it's because I only do a couple runs a day but I'm not bored of the stuff we have already. There are still things to hunt, PAs to level and random silliness to be had!

I'm not happy when things go wrong or get delayed but I also realize that there's no point complaining about it. Look at all the complaining in the forums! People have been complaining about everything and we're still getting delays and errors all the time. I'm not saying people don't have a right to complain, they certainly do and with Sega's record lately it's completely understandable. I'm just saying that I personally don't let this stuff bother me that much and I think I'm a happier person because of it. If I took every problem we've had too seriously I would have quit a long time ago!

[Sidney]

i agree that real life stuff is important but whenever someone does decide to sit on their ass and play video games, whats so bad about doing your best at it and wanting the game's problems to be fixed? is it impossible for someone to work hard and aim for success in all aspects of their life?

btw, the correct saying is "i couldn't care less". its annoying how many ppl say it wrong ><

Individuals who refuse to spell out the word "people" and ignore the shift key are just as annoying. To each his own.

The issue is, "being the best" at online games is a life consuming thing. Didn't you say you often play for 15 hours a day (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2125311&postcount=63)? The people who want to be "the best" are often the ones who take the game way too seriously, which is the OP's point. I personally know of a few people that seem to live vicariously through PSU rather than working on achieving things in their own lives. It's even worse with the people I know who play WoW.

[TheOneHero]

W0LB0T, you do great like most of the others trying to explain the same situation. Thing is, very few will actually listen.

In nearly every post for each of these kinds of threads, the response comes off as, "OMG HE IS ATTACKING OUR GAME! IF WE LISTEN TO LOGIC WE CAN'T WHINE AND COMPLAIN IN OUR MYSPACE BLOGS AND GET TO KNOCK UP ALL THE UNDERAGE EMO GIRLS WHO THINK WE'RE TOTALLY HAWT!"

Also, did any of you guys complaining notice the following in the OP's post?


Most of the time its a monumental cock up. In this case your free to bitch and moan at will. I mean properly monumental like every ones good mate error 065)

With that in mind, Aisha, I would consider MAG and the delays as a result of it a monumental cock up. (Not singling you out Aisha, it's just you addressed the MAG situation. :p )


and i should stop working hard and trying to become good at things. lol, i thought it was fun to achieve goals after putting in lots of hard work. how silly that sounds now. hey what about those fools who work really hard at sports and end up winning world championships? haha, they are the ultimate losers, rite? i hope i never become that successful b/c its not enjoyable at all.

Missing the point. >_>;


btw, the correct saying is "i couldn't care less". its annoying how many ppl say it wrong ><

Not exactly, "I really could care less" is albeit more proper than "I couldn't care less." The same way "All right" is the proper term compared to "Alright". Now make like a tree, and get out of here.

[Inazuma]

Not exactly, "I really could care less" is albeit more proper than "I couldn't care less." The same way "All right" is the proper term compared to "Alright". Now make like a tree, and get out of here.

if you are saying "i could care less" to mean "i dont care at all" then you are simply wrong.
http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/care_less.html

[TheOneHero]

Just technicalities, I'm sure I could back up my statement with the internet too, but frankly I don't give a damn.

But while we're on the subject, and according to your link, Soubrette phrased her statement correctly; while your statement basically stated, "Soubrette, you don't care at all." You were correcting something that didn't need to be corrected, because you were in a rush to be so correct! :wacko:

[Inazuma]

Just technicalities, I'm sure I could back up my statement with the internet too, but frankly I don't give a damn.

But while we're on the subject, and according to your link, Soubrette phrased her statement correctly; while your statement basically stated, "Soubrette, you don't care at all." You were correcting something that didn't need to be corrected, because you were in a rush to be so correct! :wacko:

wow, arent you a stubborn one. just admit you are wrong and learn from your mistakes.

here is what we said:

I get on PSU about once a week, so while some issues bother me, in the grand scheme of things, I really could care less.

btw, the correct saying is "i couldn't care less". its annoying how many ppl say it wrong ><

you can keep trying to argue w/ me on this, but frankly i could give less of a damn.

[AlexCraig]

Save the grammar discussion for elsewhere. Get back on topic, people.

[TheOneHero]

:lol:

"I get on PSU about once a week..." - Clearly she cares enough about the game to pay for it. So since she does care, it's possible for her to care less, as going by the link you posted.

Anyway, enough of that, too much off topic.

[Aisha379]

I love how Inazuma completely ignored Soubrette's valid post, and instead jumped right into nit-picking with TOH.

I also liked how he contradicted himself in his last sentence and just mimicked what TOH said, but oh well.


Anyway, back to the topic!


With that in mind, Aisha, I would consider MAG and the delays as a result of it a monumental cock up. (Not singling you out Aisha, it's just you addressed the MAG situation. )

True. I read what he said, but my point was everything really started having a downhill snowball effect around MAG. Delays and problems beget more of the same. Before then, most of the big "monumental cock ups" were isolated situations.

At the same time, I have only ever heard of people complaining about two generally categorized things:

A. The speed in which we are getting new content.

B. Bugs and problems (Bladed Legacy boss boxes and 065 are put here)


Since MAG we have had tons of category B, which has inevitably created more distance in A, so the way I see it, all current valid complaints are just ungodly spawn from one "monumental cock up" *shrug*


This is just my opinion though.

[Inazuma]

Individuals who refuse to spell out the word "people" and ignore the shift key are just as annoying. To each his own.

The issue is, "being the best" at online games is a life consuming thing. Didn't you say you often play for 15 hours a day (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2125311&postcount=63)? The people who want to be "the best" are often the ones who take the game way too seriously, which is the OP's point. I personally know of a few people that seem to live vicariously through PSU rather than working on achieving things in their own lives. It's even worse with the people I know who play WoW.

i use "ppl" and dont use the shift key b/c its more efficient. have you ever written "PSU" "WoW" or "OP" before? same idea.

its true i often play a ton of psu, such as 15 hours on weekends. most of my free time is spent on psu in fact, but its not so much that the rest of my life falls apart. i am unmarried, have no kids, no debt, a car, i have a nice job that pays decently, i exercise almost everyday, and i play a ton of psu b/c its my favorite thing to do. im doing exactly what i want to do in life. i know that there are many gamers out there who let the rest of their life turn to complete shit but im not one of em. as long as my life is in decent shape, its perfectly acceptable for me to play a ton of video games.

[Lyrix]

i use "ppl" and dont use the shift key b/c its more efficient. have you ever written "PSU" "WoW" or "OP" before? same idea.


...You use bad chat language and poor capitalization because it's "more efficient", yet you waste the time to correct someone on the use of "I really could care less"? That doesn't sound retarded, not at all.

And on topic, I've got to agree, I mean, I complain about the fuck ups, but I still get on and play without complaining too much. Fucked up the ass or not, i still enjoy it more than other games XD

[CelestialBlade]

I repeat, why does everyone like arguing with a brick wall? Not saying I don't agree with you guys, but seriously, this isn't going anywhere.

[AlexCraig]

I agree.