piping question

[Lance813]

Now that i have my skyly to a high enough level i am at the Caves in Ult piping for a rare lilly in Waterfall Tears.

In the room with the 9 Lillies, if you run to touch the door when the traps go off will it hurt the lillies?

Or does it piping still work if the lillies are damaged? :-?

[Dhylec]

As long as you don't kill them, they will be there when you pipe back.

[Lance813]

Do they have to be unhurt (for lack of better word) in order to be piped into a Mil Lilly?

[TheOneHero]

Hurting them doesn't affect the chance of getting a rare counterpart. :3

[Lance813]

Thanks Dhylec and TOH!

[Nisoth]

Enemies respawn altogether when you pipe them offline. That's why piping works. Every time a monster spawns, it has a chance to spawn as a rare monster.

[Lance813]

I knew that i was just curious if i had bad luck or that you couldn't hurt them.

It was luck thankfully :)

[H3Av3NS PUNISH3R]

What about previously spawned enemies? They can still be rares too.

For example, in FoS, there were two spawned Hildelts in the room, previously spawned before I even entered. Once I telepiped them, there was a previously spawned Hildetorr there.

[Splash]

Any monster that can turn rare will always have the chance to turn rare, regardless if you could see it spawn or not.

[dtp]

actually i herd that a rare monster appearance is 1/ some 500. this would explain why some items drop from them 1/2. red sabers drop rates are around 1/1000 and 1/2 from a hildetorr 500 times 2 is 1000. and 500 times 22 (syncesta) is 11000 which is around the same drop rate from a baranz with a skyly. so i guess it would make sence.

[Sazega]

There's only one trap that hurts the lilies, and it's right in the middle of the room. I did this pipe like 50 billion times to get my Demolition Comet. But no, even if one lily is hurt, you can pipe and it might become a Mil. I had to fight 11 to get my Dem. Com., and it was worth it? What ever you're looking for off one, hit the door, leave the room and look in. Standing at the open door on the right side facing in is the easiest way for this pipe.

Good luck :p

[dtp]

i actually find it easier to not pipe at all. if theres other stuff you want there, then just run the mission until you find a rare monster. also its kinda funny but when i pipe for a monster the stats usually come out 0 all around but when i dont pipe they come out pretty high. i.e piped for my first sange came out 0 random encounter for my 2nd and it came out 0/20/0/50/ and i think its 40 for hit

[Nisoth]

Hmm... I don't see how running vs. piping could affect the photon efficiency/hit of a weapon dropped by the same monster.

[EJ]

Piping vs running both give equal chances of what % the weapon will have no matter what, it already been proven that the % is random so whatever you get will be random and luck.

[Kevino]

The only thing that bothers me about piping is that it's so tedious. If my GC breaks what ever there only like what 60 dollars? I don't do it that much any way... oh and hit % not actually being by percent is irritating too...