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Dymalos
Mar 9, 2009, 05:03 PM
Hey guys, I'm currently a 69 Female Beast Acromaster but I'm getting a little too far ahead of my friends so I decided to start an alt. I'm considering a Female Newman Protranser, going for a real hybrid that will definitely make use of level 20 Attack Techs.

I'm wondering if this race/type combo is competitive in terms of damage with Bullets, Techs and Skills? Obviously I'm not expecting to do better than a respective specialist in any of these fields, I'd be happy with 70-80% equivalent DPS in each, what do you think?

Chuck_Norris
Mar 9, 2009, 05:18 PM
Newmans have the lowest ATP of all the races. So, they will do the lowest damage with guns and melee. If you want to be balanced, I suggest Human.

landman
Mar 9, 2009, 05:22 PM
Protransers in PSP can use rods ;) but only lvl 20 techs...

Dymalos
Mar 9, 2009, 05:30 PM
But are Human Protranser techs worth it? My friend plays a Cast PT and his Techs are incredibly weak, I want to be a PT that can use Techs well but rely on heavy weapons when necessary.

I guess I'll just go for it and switch to Masterforce if it doesn't seem to be working out.

Chuck_Norris
Mar 9, 2009, 05:33 PM
Humans have the 2nd hihgest TP. Second only to Newmans. A Human would be fine for techs. Your friend's tech damage sucks because CAST has the lowest TP of the 4. It goes Newman>Human>Beast>CAST.

panzer_unit
Mar 10, 2009, 09:05 AM
My human PT's tech damage isn't bad; he's hitting (with Har/Quick) for 800's on proper-element Radiga with a bit of room to grow still. The final balance is for sure going to have guns outdamaging techniques where comparable: lasers, grenades, shotguns vs multiple targets ... they fire a little slower but never miss. Melee is sort of a wildcard depending on how often you get interrupted, if you've got to do regular attacks for PP refresh, etc, in general I think being able to stand back and hammer away on a fire button probably deals more damage faster than melee if you're trading blows.

Techs are a pretty good asset for a PT... full damage on robots, and some techs have physical crowd control (diga, gifoie, rabarta, razonde, noszonde, nosmegid, dam-everything) that can make handling certain enemy types much easier.

I really want to farm better gear for it though, all the commonly available A- and S-ranks are Yohmei and there's a huge TP jump from them to true Kubara stuff like Gaozoran Rod and Psycho Wand. In comparison to that, the Soda Riban I'm rocking for swords is within 100 ATP of any higher-ranked sword until Agito Repca.

OriginalB
Mar 10, 2009, 09:16 AM
A newman PT is worthless. In fact, a newman using any class but FO is pretty much worthless. My 2 cents

panzer_unit
Mar 10, 2009, 10:04 AM
A newman PT is probably pretty good but I think they're going to outdamage their guns and probably their melee with tech... and yeah, if you're using tech all the time anyway why not roll MasterForce?

Akaimizu
Mar 10, 2009, 10:11 AM
Probably because they want to mix it up with guns, for crowd control, and still get some taste of good heavy melee weapons. One thing that's good on Protranser, is that they do get the highest ranking toys, all around. The Level 20 Tech limitation goes a long way to ensure that Status effects remain mostly with the guns.

panzer_unit
Mar 10, 2009, 10:45 AM
Don't forget the EX traps either.

It's got to complicate things a bit doing more damage with techs than guns, but needing guns for status attacks and I guess crowd control if you want to be picky about elements (techniques have no shortage of CC but it's element-specific) ... two rods for elements and primary damage, grenade for ranged CC in a flavor besides lightning or ice, laser for SE, a couple melee weapons. Yeah, I guess I can see that working.

OriginalB
Mar 10, 2009, 11:36 AM
Human PT is better