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jShazBot
Apr 30, 2009, 05:51 PM
Anyone worried that this will soon get out of control?

Nitro Vordex
Apr 30, 2009, 05:54 PM
No.

Considering there's only been one death in a native U.S. citizen, I'm not worried. H1A1 will only get us sick. Probably not destroy us. U.S. people have really good health care, can't really say the same of Mexico.

Plus, it has nothing to do with pigs, so stop being idiots people. EATING BACON AND OTHER THINGS WON'T GET YOU SICK. UNLESS, YOU KNOW, YOU EAT IT RAW.

TheOneHero
Apr 30, 2009, 05:57 PM
But, but Nitro! It's called Swine Flu for a reason! :(

I'm not worried at all, as long as people aren't idiots and take care of themselves it shouldn't get ou-- oh wait. People are idiots. D:


Edit: No. I'm generally not worried. Just like nothing will happen in 2012.

Retehi
Apr 30, 2009, 05:59 PM
Yeah, it'll cut our population by millions and millions, just like Bird Flu, and Mad Cow did back then.

Dangerous55
Apr 30, 2009, 06:33 PM
No. Unless they are really, really lying to us and it is far worse than being reported. Now, if you subscribe to the evil government theory they could possibly use this "crisis" to you know...do something...evil...or something.

jShazBot
Apr 30, 2009, 06:37 PM
I love you to?

HolioArtillery
Apr 30, 2009, 06:42 PM
No, you'd think mass communication would help enlighten people and get them to work together. Instead it's just made them act like a bunch of chickens running around with their heads cut off.

joefro
Apr 30, 2009, 07:30 PM
Seven People. That's the amount of people that have died in the world from this. Seven. Now everyone calm the fuck down.

Statistical tards, I heard that on the radio like twelve hours ago, so I don't care if that number isn't correct.

Rubius-sama
Apr 30, 2009, 07:52 PM
Seven People. That's the amount of people that have died in the world from this. Seven. Now everyone calm the fuck down.

Statistical tards, I heard that on the radio like twelve hours ago, so I don't care if that number isn't correct.

It was at 150 just two days ago.

Nitro Vordex
Apr 30, 2009, 07:58 PM
It was at 150 just two days ago.
Cases, not deaths. Or, it was deaths in Mexico, where shit sux anyway.

Randomness
Apr 30, 2009, 08:00 PM
Yeah. A lot of Mexicans are dead of this. The rest of the world? Not much. Hell, the US death was someone visiting from Mexico, as I recall.

Kylie
Apr 30, 2009, 08:03 PM
I don't think it's a major threat, but I appreciate the government's concern. Better safe than sorry.

I mean, it's getting on my nerves too with its excessive coverage; I'm still glad they're addressing it though.

SStrikerR
Apr 30, 2009, 08:03 PM
It was a 23 month old baby.
I don't know if it was in mexico or not.

Leviathan
Apr 30, 2009, 08:08 PM
23 month old baby was in Brownsville, Texas. However the family had taken the baby to a Houston mall so yeah, not good at all.

Fort Worth ISD shut down all 140 schools until May 11th.

I hope I don't get it. That would really suck, because my immunity is not the best of shape right now.

Nitro Vordex
Apr 30, 2009, 08:08 PM
Yeah, they think that newborns have awesome immune systems. Spoilers: THEY DON'T. Saying a baby dying is the gonna be the end of the U.S. is rediculous.

Sometimes I wonder if the people on this board are the only levelheaded people ever.

Wasn't that baby FROM Mexico?

Also, closing the border won't help, thanks to all the illegal Mexicans still coming over.

Neith
Apr 30, 2009, 08:31 PM
First case of it got reported in Northeast England today; not too far from where I live. Turns out the woman who contracted it had just came back from Mexico though.

As for the OP: No, I'm not worried. If it gets worse, there's not a huge amount you can do about it, so what's the point in worrying?

and it certainly won't stop me eating bacon :wacko:

Cracka_J
Apr 30, 2009, 08:44 PM
You guys do know that over 36,000 people die every year from the common flu, right?

Enjoy your swine flu guys, we'll likely all get it eventually. And we'll all take proper medication and be fine.

Unless your in a 3rd world country, then you're fucked.

SStrikerR
Apr 30, 2009, 08:46 PM
Yeah, they think that newborns have awesome immune systems. Spoilers: THEY DON'T. Saying a baby dying is the gonna be the end of the U.S. is rediculous.

Sometimes I wonder if the people on this board are the only levelheaded people ever.

Wasn't that baby FROM Mexico?

Also, closing the border won't help, thanks to all the illegal Mexicans still coming over.

Thank you. Looks like I'm not the only person that people look at funny. Remember kids, knowing things that other people don't is a sin. Eat your vegetables

Vanzazikon
Apr 30, 2009, 08:58 PM
The media has some truths but they like to make a big deal out of everything bad that happens.

Leviathan
Apr 30, 2009, 10:01 PM
Tamiflu, which is one of the most common flu medicines is readily available. Which is nice and not expensive. [Over $100 for a week's supply.]

The next week will be the turning point to see how/what will happen next.

Rasputin
Apr 30, 2009, 11:32 PM
I'm not worried. In fact, I'm buying pork chorizo from a Mexican supermarket tomorrow. Pansies. I ride the bus every morning with immigrant workers who are going to Home Depot. Are any of them fresh from Mexico? Possibly. Just gotta DGAF that shit and move on.

unicorn
Apr 30, 2009, 11:42 PM
From what I've gathered, swine flu = regular flu symptoms. Its really just a super flu, but its not the end-all. The average person probably won't die from this, it seems like its unhealthy, 3rd world people dying from it.

Theres probably nothing better on the news so they're just going to milk this shit out.

CupOfCoffee
May 1, 2009, 01:01 PM
I heard 99.4% of Earth's population is susceptible to swine flu and that it has a 100% mortality rate within four days. Quick, everyone head to Boulder Colorado!

Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spE0n0ighpo

Dragwind
May 1, 2009, 01:07 PM
I found it interesting how the current virus is a hybrid of the bird, swine, and human flu, not necessarily just the old "swine flu."

Dark Phoenix5
May 1, 2009, 04:06 PM
Well i just like the fact that if one person gets it in our school then we all get out for a week

Sinue_v2
May 1, 2009, 05:47 PM
I mean, it's getting on my nerves too with its excessive coverage

"The one function network news provides very well is that, when there is no news we report it with the same emphasis as if it were." ~ David Brinkley

Swine Flu certainly has the potential to be bad, as unlike previous outbreaks in recent memory - it's transmittable from person to person and not everybody has the access to proper medical attention - especially in these times of harsh economic downturn. However, that's just potential. There's no reason to be alarmed just yet, and over-reacting to it at this point could cause more damage than the flu itself.

3---Hit---U
May 2, 2009, 12:28 PM
As Miley Cyrus (can't stand the bitch) said:

"All this talk of swine flu is makin' me want bacon!"

XD.

Wyndham
May 2, 2009, 12:31 PM
Swine Flu

Pigs have wings?? We're $#&@ed!

jShazBot
May 3, 2009, 12:40 AM
As Miley Cyrus (can't stand the bitch) said:

"All this talk of swine flu is makin' me want bacon!"

XD.

No Comment

Firocket1690
May 3, 2009, 12:53 AM
http://shouldibeworriedaboutswineflu.com/

... And life goes on.

For paranoid safety concerns, it's not contagious enough to be deadly. It seems like potential trouble brewing on an individual basis. But statistically speaking, and for the better majority of the population, it's very unlikely.

.. that last paragraph is probably grammatically off somehow, it doesn't feel right.

SStrikerR
May 3, 2009, 08:55 PM
http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/051109/bish.gif

^ How the swine flu came about this time.
Seriously, click it.

[spoiler-box]http://cagle.msnbc.com/working/051109/bish.gif
I figured you wouldn't click it, so here you go[/spoiler-box]

Randomness
May 3, 2009, 10:07 PM
Nice find, good sir.

:wacko::wacko::wacko::disapprove::disapprove:

Nitro Vordex
May 4, 2009, 01:00 AM
The bird is a subtle touch.

Mizari
May 4, 2009, 04:45 PM
The thing about this strain is that a lot of medical experts and pretty much all the media are going "OMGWTF1918SPANISHFLUOHNOES", because there is the possibility that the "swine flu" could initiate something called a "cytokine storm" that is actually what can kill a healthy, young person if they get the flu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm

This mechanism is widely believed to have caused the majority of the deaths in both the 1918 pandemic and the SARS outbreak in 2003 (remember that one?).

However, I'd like to believe that we've had a few advances since 1918 - not just Tamiflu, but in understanding how viruses like this spread and how to prevent massive infection. It seems as though Mexican authorities are taking *some* right steps - isolating known swine flu carriers until the illness passes, while it is still practical to do so (i.e., when the total number of cases is still in the 100s). There are also practical, simple things that everyone can do, such as simply washing their hands or using hand sanitizers, especially if they are around people who are sick. IIRC, the school in Queens that had five infected students did not report any family members of any of the victims also getting the flu. This means that those people were either extremely lucky or were taking precautions not to become infected, and if the latter is true, I think we're headed in the right direction in terms of not having a major pandemic on our hands (but of course the media is already calling it a "pandemic" with only around 1,000 worldwide cases - what the hell would you call HIV, then? :roll: )

Leviathan
May 4, 2009, 05:11 PM
The thing about this strain is that a lot of medical experts and pretty much all the media are going "OMGWTF1918SPANISHFLUOHNOES", because there is the possibility that the "swine flu" could initiate something called a "cytokine storm" that is actually what can kill a healthy, young person if they get the flu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytokine_storm


Interesting, but a wikipedia article does not suffice.




However, I'd like to believe that we've had a few advances since 1918 - not just Tamiflu, but in understanding how viruses like this spread and how to prevent massive infection. It seems as though Mexican authorities are taking *some* right steps - isolating known swine flu carriers until the illness passes, while it is still practical to do so (i.e., when the total number of cases is still in the 100s). There are also practical, simple things that everyone can do, such as simply washing their hands or using hand sanitizers, especially if they are around people who are sick. IIRC, the school in Queens that had five infected students did not report any family members of any of the victims also getting the flu. This means that those people were either extremely lucky or were taking precautions not to become infected, and if the latter is true, I think we're headed in the right direction in terms of not having a major pandemic on our hands (but of course the media is already calling it a "pandemic" with only around 1,000 worldwide cases - what the hell would you call HIV, then? :roll: )

HIV has been a pandemic for several years. [Remember those commercials around the summertime, around World AIDS Day?]
And a pandemic is measured by how easily it spreads, if I remember correctly.

TheOneHero
May 4, 2009, 05:15 PM
Interesting, but a wikipedia article does not suffice.

Like any encyclopedia, you look at the citations. :p

Outrider
May 4, 2009, 05:16 PM
Interesting, but a wikipedia article does not suffice.



I'm pretty sure the wikipedia article is there to use as quick reference to explain what a cytokine storm is to those who don't know about it.

Randomness
May 4, 2009, 06:46 PM
Interesting, but a wikipedia article does not suffice.





HIV has been a pandemic for several years. [Remember those commercials around the summertime, around World AIDS Day?]
And a pandemic is measured by how easily it spreads, if I remember correctly.

I believe its actually how widespread a disease is. The literal meaning of the word is "all people"

Shadowpawn
May 4, 2009, 06:49 PM
From Wiki


According to the World Health Organization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Health_Organization) (WHO), a pandemic can start when three conditions have been met:[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandemic#cite_note-who-0)


Emergence of a disease new to a population.
Agents infect humans, causing serious illness.
Agents spread easily and sustainably among humans.

A disease or condition is not a pandemic merely because it is widespread or kills many people; it must also be infectious. For instance, cancer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancer) is responsible for many deaths but is not considered a pandemic, because the disease is not infectious or contagious.
It meets 3/3 of the conditions so it's a pandemic. Now I need everyone to GET TO DAH CHOPPHA!

Mizari
May 4, 2009, 06:50 PM
Interesting, but a wikipedia article does not suffice. Geez :disapprove: All right, how about http://www.cytokinestorm.com/ then? I'm not trying to prove that they're gonna kill us all in the latest wave of flu, I'm just trying to point out what they *are*. And if the Northwest Ohio Consortium for Public Health isn't authoritative enough for you...well, sorry, I can't help you with that.


I'm pretty sure the wikipedia article is there to use as quick reference to explain what a cytokine storm is to those who don't know about it. Exactly. I've read about the role of cytokine storms in the 1918 flu pandemic in several other sources, so it's not just some nutjob on Wikipedia making stuff up.


HIV has been a pandemic for several years. [Remember those commercials around the summertime, around World AIDS Day?]
And a pandemic is measured by how easily it spreads, if I remember correctly. I KNOW that HIV is a pandemic, I just think that it's funny how the media is *already* labeling swine flu as a pandemic of epic proportions, which it isn't really, right now.

Leviathan
May 4, 2009, 08:18 PM
With wikipedia you never know who might just go in there and edit things. I remember someone posted porn links on a school's education system.

As a general rule in media:

I don't think the media is making a huge deal about it being a pandemic, the media is covering how it has spread easily to many countries, and the fact that humans don't have an immunity for it yet. Which follows the general rules of the media:

"If it bleeds, it leads."

Blitzkommando
May 5, 2009, 10:36 AM
It's the next SARS, West Nile Virus, Bird Flu, whatever 'new' disease that pops up and kills a couple people that had no health care. The problem with this kind of thing is that for many people it's that dumbassed boy crying "wolf" again. When we finally do get the shitstorm of a disease going around there's going to be a lot of people ignoring it simply because it will sound exactly the same as every single other disease that is constantly blown out of proportion in regards to how dangerous it is. But, hey, the alphabet soup networks need some way to keep people watching as people grow tired of watching specials about the latest string idiocy of Hollywood.

Powder Keg
May 5, 2009, 11:47 AM
So.....is it still safe for me to bathe in raw bacon?