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DPShiro
May 15, 2009, 11:41 AM
I know that neither of them are available yet, but many are probably saving coins to get some, i know i am :)

But from the stats we know, which one are you going to use and why?

I am leaning towards Carriguine-Rucar+ because of more PP :D
(and as a fighmaster with no save unit pp burns our fast)

I also seem to recall reading that ACC dont really matter on weps, true or false?

beatrixkiddo
May 15, 2009, 11:44 AM
Acc didn't matter until enemies started getting much more evade (lv150+). Now it matters... a little bit more.

Geonizer/Iceman
May 15, 2009, 11:55 AM
I'm getting as many Crea Dub+ as I can.

Calsetes
May 15, 2009, 12:11 PM
I'm thinking about possibly making a second doubles and turning them into a +. Don't want to lose my 38% light, it's a very nice weapon.

darkante
May 15, 2009, 12:36 PM
I have to say that i like them about equally.

Crea doubles have that simple look that i like.
And Carriguine-rucar has that strange bizarre shape that appeals to me as well.
But i just canīt seem to get them in any decent percent. (30+%)
So for me transforming them to itīs + version wonīt hurt me. XD

I think i gotta get both...sharing different elements so i donīt feel limited. =)

DPShiro
May 15, 2009, 01:52 PM
Acc didn't matter until enemies started getting much more evade (lv150+). Now it matters... a little bit more.

do you think that a beast with lkk would notice a difference on the two weps?
i have heard so many say that once you get past 100+ acc/ata dosent matter, and some say it does...

DPShiro
May 15, 2009, 01:53 PM
I'm getting as many Crea Dub+ as I can.

why are you going for the dubs?
just curios if people choose them for looks, stats or anything else :)

DPShiro
May 15, 2009, 01:58 PM
I have to say that i like them about equally.

Crea doubles have that simple look that i like.
And Carriguine-rucar has that strange bizarre shape that appeals to me as well.
But i just canīt seem to get them in any decent percent. (30+%)
So for me transforming them to itīs + version wonīt hurt me. XD

I think i gotta get both...sharing different elements so i donīt feel limited. =)

yea i too like the looks on both :)

too bad that the dubs will be out a lot earlier than the rucars, im gonna be tempted to trade for some :)

on the other hand, maybe the dubs will go down in price more and more towards the release of rucars and you can buy somewhat cheap :)

Calsetes
May 15, 2009, 02:05 PM
I'm choosing mine based off of looks, mainly. I'm not a huge fan of the Rucar's style, but it'd be nice to have one just in case.

Randomness
May 15, 2009, 02:36 PM
do you think that a beast with lkk would notice a difference on the two weps?
i have heard so many say that once you get past 100+ acc/ata dosent matter, and some say it does...

I dunno, ask my beast PT whether accuracy matters. There's a reason I use a Cati/Hit on her.

Accuracy does matter. I wouldn't use a Lumirus/Kaos Knight on my beast because I couldn't hit stuff at 150+ then. Whereas my newman would hit just fine with one.

Calsetes
May 15, 2009, 02:42 PM
I honestly would take accuracy over power. Then again, I'm a fan of "lots of little consistent damage over time" as opposed to "miss three times in a row, and then hit with your fourth for the sum of those three hits, plus a half of another hit." That's also probably why I hate axes so much.

Chuck_Norris
May 15, 2009, 03:47 PM
The simple fact, that my old CAST Gunmaster (The absolute highest ATA race/class combination possible) could miss all 5 shots on a shotgun blast is a testament to how useful ATA is. :disapprove:

Anyway, I'll take Rucar+, since it's stronger in almost every way, and reminds me of Girasole from BB.

mvffin
May 15, 2009, 04:06 PM
I thought Rucar+ was dark only? If so then the choice is obvious.

DPShiro
May 15, 2009, 04:11 PM
I thought Rucar+ was dark only? If so then the choice is obvious.

i've never heard that, are you sure?
could maybe someone on jp side comfirm this pls?

Chuck_Norris
May 15, 2009, 04:36 PM
Considering the normal Rucar is any element, I highly doubt that they'd make the + version dark only.

DPShiro
May 15, 2009, 04:42 PM
Considering the normal Rucar is any element, I highly doubt that they'd make the + version dark only.

i really dont hope so, but they did with flowens sword :)

goldbrease
May 15, 2009, 07:23 PM
if its a certain element only it would likely be light since the blade arms of the mob itself are white. i know that don't make sense since its a dark mob as well lol.

NDW
May 15, 2009, 07:54 PM
Anyway, I'll take Rucar+, since it's stronger in almost every way, and reminds me of Girasole from BB.

This for me.

Also, here is a visual comparison of the Carriguine-Rucar and Girasole if people want to see:
[spoiler-box]http://www.pso-world.com/psu/items/1557/9997-m.jpg

http://www.pso-world.com/images/items/BB-GIRASOLE-ACTION-1.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Kazemi
May 15, 2009, 09:29 PM
i've never heard that, are you sure?
could maybe someone on jp side comfirm this pls?
there's a whole rainbow of them showing up in shops on jp, so they heard wrong.

unicorn
May 15, 2009, 09:30 PM
ATP doesnt mean much for Double Sabers, so I'll just aim for high % 10*.

GUNcrazy12
May 15, 2009, 10:01 PM
ok, when in the heck are we supposed to get these weps?

Akihito
May 15, 2009, 10:50 PM
hopefully after 10x casino cins so I can save atleast 1 Chevalier edge.

Dymalos
May 16, 2009, 04:31 AM
I have 3x 34 % Carriguine-Rucars in Ice Light and Dark (Thank you Magashi Plan). I'm not sure if I want to risk going + on any of them, could end up with either poorer or duplicate elements. But I'll probably end up trying if I get the Chevalier Edges. I'd make Crea Doubles if they weren't statistically worse in every category but ACC.

kejen
May 16, 2009, 07:13 PM
ACC definitely matters. But you really won't notice the difference between these weapons. If they were 250+ acc difference you would probably notice. 500+ acc and would definitely notice. 50 acc, not that big of a deal in my opinion.