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CJ Johnny
May 23, 2009, 03:48 PM
DeBuff’s
Level 1-10 cost 32. Duration 30 Sec’s. SE LV1-10%
Level 11-20 cost 40. Duration 1 Min. SE LV2-15%
Level 21-30 cost 48. Duration 90 Sec’s. LV3-20%
Level 31-40 cost 56. Duration 2 Min’s. LV4-25%
Level 41-50 cost 64. Duration 2 Min’s 30 Sec’s. LV5-30%

Buff’s
Level 1-10 cost 32. Duration 2 Min’s. SE LV1+11%
Level 11-20 cost 40. Duration 3 Min. SE LV2+15%
Level 21-30 cost 48. Duration 4 Min’s. LV3+19%
Level 31-40 cost 56. Duration 5 Min’s. LV4+23%
Level 41-50 cost 64. Duration 6 Min’s Sec’s. LV5+27%

Types Attack/Support
Force 20/20
GunTecher 30/30
WarTecher 30/30
ForteTecher 40/40
AcroTecher 30/50
MasterForce 50/10

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161059

Please, don't fight over your Buff's.
Play nice and be nice. :-?

Tetsaru
May 23, 2009, 05:28 PM
I also think it should be noted that buff items (Agtaride, Defbaride, Zodiaride, Retaride, and Megistaride) all have the same strength as Lv11-20 buffs. Thus, if any of you Masterforces are buffing (other than Giresta), you're wasting your time. =P

Suzuka Miyamoto
May 23, 2009, 08:29 PM
Whats the point of Masterforce?

Its just a useless tech class.
Even though they cast faster, its only good if they are wearing a head unit that speeds up cast time.

autumn
May 23, 2009, 10:37 PM
If you are a techer and not wearing a quick unit you are doing it wrong.

Also, MF is the only type that receives a boost to casting speed off of a rod.

Magus_84
May 23, 2009, 10:51 PM
Whats the point of Masterforce?

Its just a useless tech class.
Even though they cast faster, its only good if they are wearing a head unit that speeds up cast time.

Higher offensive tech cap, and the massive boosts techs get from 41-50 (in terms of SE, targets and damage)

Miyoko
May 23, 2009, 11:48 PM
If you are a techer and not wearing a quick unit you are doing it wrong.

Also, MF is the only type that receives a boost to casting speed off of a rod.

You should dambarta with a high +tp head unit.

mvffin
May 24, 2009, 02:53 AM
Doesn't dambarta have higher DPS with an FT?

DreXxiN
May 29, 2009, 12:57 PM
Doesn't dambarta have higher DPS with an FT?

Yes, for now. Same goes for all hold techs.

Inazuma
May 29, 2009, 07:02 PM
MF is a worthless pile of shit in the current version of English PSU, sadly. Even the very best MF in the entire world can easily find themselves as nothing more than a useless deadweight in a party, if you compare them to any decent FM or GM.

However, if you start putting in the time and effort to raise MF now, it will pay off big time in about 1-2 years when Sega will rebalance the chars, making MF extremely good to the point of absurdity (along with just about every other character out there >_>).

Recently in the JP ver, MF was so strong that Sonichi actually had to nerf them a bit by limiting deega/foie to 4 hits max.

On the topic of buffs, MF will get their support techs raised to lv 20 shortly after the rebalancing.

biggabertha
May 29, 2009, 07:40 PM
On the topic of buffs, MF will get their support techs raised to lv 20 shortly after the rebalancing.

Heh... wow, that's kinda cool.

There are so many people that feel really weak with Lv. 10 Support - man, Guntechers REALLY had it hard back in the day and now they have so little lov... oh wait...

Ruru
May 29, 2009, 07:50 PM
MF is a worthless pile of shit in the current version of English PSU, sadly. Even the very best MF in the entire world can easily find themselves as nothing more than a useless deadweight in a party, if you compare them to any decent FM or GM.

However, if you start putting in the time and effort to raise MF now, it will pay off big time in about 1-2 years when Sega will rebalance the chars, making MF extremely good to the point of absurdity (along with just about every other character out there >_>).

Recently in the JP ver, MF was so strong that Sonichi actually had to nerf them a bit by limiting deega/foie to 4 hits max.

On the topic of buffs, MF will get their support techs raised to lv 20 shortly after the rebalancing.



this post makes me lol and cry a little at the same time. as a 150 MF 20 i completely agree at the sad state that MF is in compared to other classes (especially FM GM) i hope the rebalancing is really as good as you say as i really do miss playing as my force. and if buffs get shot up to 20 that will help with resta/giresta hitting someone other than me in my little 5 foot radius lol

mvffin
May 30, 2009, 03:24 AM
Wait, so they raised Support by 10, AND you get the Support Tech+? Sounds good to me. They should have had 21+ Buffs from the start.

Inazuma
May 30, 2009, 10:42 AM
Wait, so they raised Support by 10, AND you get the Support Tech+? Sounds good to me. They should have had 21+ Buffs from the start.

No, it's just support tech+ available from the GAS customize abilities, which adds 10 levels to your support techs. There is no reason not to get it, since you have enough points available for everything in that category. Every MF should end up w/ the lv 20 support.