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Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 09:05 AM
I've been wanting to know if humans are better than beasts or the other way around cuz i dont know which one to make so PLZ HELP:-(

Gibdozer
Jul 13, 2009, 09:20 AM
Humans are the worst class in PSU, and beasts are one of the best.

Falke
Jul 13, 2009, 09:23 AM
Humans are the worst class in PSU, and beasts are one of the best.

A gross generalisation and massively inaccurate.

If you're after high damage, go Beast. Humans are better for overall balance. PSUpedia gives more specific information regarding races that you may find useful.

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 09:25 AM
Thanks for your help

Ail
Jul 13, 2009, 09:27 AM
@Gibdozer: Human is not a class, it's a race.

@Project X1o: you can find on psupedia the information you need ;)

Human (http://www.psupedia.info/Humans)
Beast (http://www.psupedia.info/Beasts)
Newman (http://www.psupedia.info/Newmans)
CAST (http://www.psupedia.info/CASTs)

DPShiro
Jul 13, 2009, 09:29 AM
It really depends on what class you are going to be. For example, beast make good fighters, cast rangers, newmans forces and humans nice acrofighters (examples).

Try them out and see what you like :)

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 09:30 AM
Ok thanks for the help ppl

redx1xman
Jul 13, 2009, 09:36 AM
2 words my friend. "Beast Mode"

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 09:43 AM
LOL i know but i wanted to see if humans were better so yup

dexter_safe
Jul 13, 2009, 09:44 AM
the game isn't hard at all, human aren't bad fighters.They are good acrotechers and pretty good acrofighters, i guess u could call them a kinda balanced race. not too strong.....

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 10:08 AM
I appreciate the help!!

Waki Miko Syamemaru!
Jul 13, 2009, 10:13 AM
Humans are the Jack Of All Trades so to speak. They are good with Hunter, Ranger, and Force-type classes yet they don't really excel in them. So to say Humans are a crappy race to play as is a pretty un-educated thing to state. Try telling that to the legions of people out there that play as them.

Ethateral
Jul 13, 2009, 10:14 AM
Humans do well with Guntecher too. :3 I play as a beast AF. It's really what you want to play as and as which class. I wouldn't follow "That's best for that". I feel that'll take any fun out of anything. Play as what race/class you want. :/

Calsetes
Jul 13, 2009, 12:34 PM
I like my Human Fortefighter. They don't do the best damage, but they don't do the worst. They also don't miss that much. Honestly, like several other people have said, humans are the balanced race, and as such really excel in the cross-class jobs. If you want maximum damage, then go for beast (for the heaviest hitters), casts (highest accuracy and not too shabby damage), or neuman (if you want lots of tech damage). If you want someone who can do everything well and not totally suck in one aspect or another, then go for human.

Clunker
Jul 13, 2009, 12:51 PM
Also, Humans are Hybrid-Class "Specialists".
Much like how Beasts gain Specialist racial bonuses with Fortefighter, and Casts with Fortegunner, humans gain them on Protranser, and I think the Acro-classes as well.

New_One
Jul 13, 2009, 01:02 PM
I think they are a little under-powered in the acc department, I reckon they should have better base acc than newmans. Other than that I think female human is the most fun class to use for me, and i've re-rolled my main about a thousand times.

Libram
Jul 13, 2009, 01:06 PM
If you manage to stick around until the supplemental update hits our shores then humans will also be the most customizable race.

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 01:33 PM
Whats the supplemental update supposed to do?

Criss
Jul 13, 2009, 01:35 PM
It's the next massive update PSU will get.

http://psupedia.info/AOTI_supplemental_update

The_Brimada
Jul 13, 2009, 01:51 PM
If humans had a "win button" they could easily be one of the best, but they aren't the worst either. I really do like playing my humans more than my beast since humans just look better. XD

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 02:01 PM
Does the update inly come out for the PC/PS2 cuz i have the Xbox 360 and PSP

ashley50
Jul 13, 2009, 02:08 PM
what 360 gets, PC/PS2 also gets.

Tetsaru
Jul 13, 2009, 02:24 PM
You've got 4 character slots, right? Make one of each and see how you like them.

Project X1o
Jul 13, 2009, 02:27 PM
ok thx

Gibdozer
Jul 15, 2009, 06:59 PM
@Gibdozer: Human is not a class, it's a race.

Yes you got me I meant to say race, thanks for trolling.

@Project X1o: you can find on psupedia the information you need ;)

Human (http://www.psupedia.info/Humans)
Beast (http://www.psupedia.info/Beasts)
Newman (http://www.psupedia.info/Newmans)
CAST (http://www.psupedia.info/CASTs)


A gross generalisation and massively inaccurate.

It's not a generalization it's an opinion, my opinion, based on the experience of playing human, beast, newman, and cast. It is my opinion that human is inferior in virtually every class to beast, even Acrofighter. 5% boost still doesn't come close to a beast with a good arm unit!

If you're after high damage, go Beast. Humans are better for overall balance. PSUpedia gives more specific information regarding races that you may find useful.


Humans are the Jack Of All Trades so to speak. They are good with Hunter, Ranger, and Force-type classes yet they don't really excel in them. So to say Humans are a crappy race to play as is a pretty un-educated thing to state. Try telling that to the legions of people out there that play as them.

Yes I suppose a human is capable of playing any class, but then so is every other race. The only reason I can see to legitimize playing human is out of aesthetics(no stupid looking ears) or just a desire to play an under used(for a reason) class.

Legions of humans? Next to male newman human is the most underplayed race in the game. I guarantee at any given time the population of universe 1 has a ration of 10 casts to every human, and at least 5 beast.

If you want to play as a human then that's cool do so, but arguing that human is even close to beast or cast is pure ignorance!

Gibdozer
Jul 15, 2009, 07:08 PM
You've got 4 character slots, right? Make one of each and see how you like them.

Best advice yet, do this and see for yourself, I bet you delete the human before level 30.

syouz
Jul 16, 2009, 06:32 AM
Beast Mode= shitty damage (blue beast) fast k.o (on yourself red beast)

Be a Cast beast sux

Dymalos
Jul 16, 2009, 09:18 AM
While it's true that Nanoblast is almost always overwhelmingly outdamaged by Melee PAs for Melee Types, it really shines as a way to give some much need versatility for Hybrid and Gunner types. Many missions have a few foes such as the Kajilbari or a multispawn of Ubakrada that will simply take longer to overcome if you rely on only guns, in such cases the Nanoblast will serve you well.

I won't argue that an S.U.V. is statistically better, but at the same time won't one shot these types of monsters, whereas even the Vande Val (what you call the shitty damage blue beast form) will allow you to take out a lvl 160 or higher Kajilbari within it's duration while remaining invulnerable to it's attacks.

red1228
Jul 16, 2009, 10:27 AM
Also, Humans are Hybrid-Class "Specialists".
Much like how Beasts gain Specialist racial bonuses with Fortefighter, and Casts with Fortegunner, humans gain them on Protranser, and I think the Acro-classes as well.

Humans get a +3% to all stats when playing Hybrids (FI, WT, GT, PT) and a +5% to all stats when playing as AF and AT.
Just thought I'd further clarify that.

Hrith
Jul 17, 2009, 12:08 AM
2 words my friend. "Beast Mode"Which has been mostly pointless since AoI was released in November 2007, unless you want invincibility...

Humans are factually better than beasts at quite a few jobs, but beasts are better at Fortefighter and Fighmaster, for sure.

Genoa
Jul 21, 2009, 04:49 PM
I've been wanting to know if humans are better than beasts or the other way around cuz i dont know which one to make so PLZ HELP:-(

Define "best", then maybe I'll answer.
Such a broad question with no detail whatsoever.

neilp4453
Jul 21, 2009, 11:08 PM
In a game where balance doesn't matter...specializing is the way to go.

The most successful players specialize..the players with the best gear specialize.

Faster runs is key.

But keep in mind, if you never solo and are constantly in parties...do whatever you want. With a party...runs are cake.

PhdChristmas
Jul 22, 2009, 11:31 AM
forget humans and beasts. go cast

dexter_safe
Jul 22, 2009, 03:05 PM
cast=suv...........

FOnewearl-Lina
Jul 22, 2009, 11:14 PM
PROTIP: Once Wild Blast comes out, Beast wins all.

zombiemoshpit84
Jul 22, 2009, 11:42 PM
i think people overlook the race bonus humans get for acro.human af have way better evade, accuracy and MST. they can make up the "slight" atp diff with %. beast tekkers fail in comparison to human acro tekker. assuming you dont care about nano blast. plus some people dont want there char to look like they have a hamster for a mother and a chimp for a dad, but thats just me. bring the flame furry lovers! lol

dexter_safe
Jul 23, 2009, 11:19 PM
160 human acrofighter evp=1413 i think

Dymalos
Jul 24, 2009, 01:20 AM
PROTIP: Once Wild Blast comes out, Beast wins all.


I've been a bit out of the loop lately. Would you mind giving me a bit of info or perhaps a link to something that would provide the low down?

FOnewearl-Lina
Jul 24, 2009, 01:31 AM
I've been a bit out of the loop lately. Would you mind giving me a bit of info or perhaps a link to something that would provide the low down?
Nanoblast lasts 30 seconds longer, stats and speed are boosted during nano.
Think of it as Viagara for Beast, I have not seen a single player die during red nano since this came out.
Longer, Faster, Harder...

Dymalos
Jul 24, 2009, 01:41 AM
Heh, guess I'll be looking forward to it. But uh... seeing as how I play F Beast... what are side effects for viagra when consumed by the opposite sex?

The_Brimada
Jul 24, 2009, 11:18 AM
Nanoblast lasts 30 seconds longer, stats and speed are boosted during nano.
Think of it as Viagara for Beast, I have not seen a single player die during red nano since this came out.
Longer, Faster, Harder...


This is the first time I've actually heard more details about the "new" nanoblast. You see my beast is having trouble performing, and would really love to have this "supplement" ASAP :)

NDW
Aug 5, 2009, 12:10 PM
Heh, guess I'll be looking forward to it. But uh... seeing as how I play F Beast... what are side effects for viagra when consumed by the opposite sex?

Turns into a she-male. :o

Blue Dragon
Aug 5, 2009, 01:06 PM
well i like newman for force, think magic is quicker and more powerful than anything a human can do, top end it is far superior, plus with orpad/guard, tero/hp restore, and atleast 6 rods with gibarta lvl 11+, resta lvl 11+, plus another 2 magics, you dont need to use any healing items the only items you need are 10 proton charges and 10 scape dolls, plus gibarta can freeze the enemy aswell as do damage, and yes a human can use a rod but can only use low power rods, but i only play offline and i don't know if it is the same online as i have never played on, and ofcourse this is just my opinion, but does anyone who plays online agree with me ??

Shou
Aug 5, 2009, 01:40 PM
The Best Race Rule of PSU: Newman for FT and MF, CAST for everything else.

If you want to perform the best you possibly can with the class you play, follow this rule. It all comes down to WTF didnt SEGAC give newmans and humans special abilities and why are SUVs so broken?

Allison_W
Aug 5, 2009, 11:39 PM
I agree with CASTs being really good even for the classes that beasts supposedly excel in. The accuracy boost is nice.

But nonetheless, aren't humans generally the overall best for certain classes? I'm thinking wartecher, acrofighter, and acrotecher here, assuming you want to make the most of the EVP boost the acro-classes get and the offensive techs that the wartecher and acrotecher get. Possibly guntecher as well, but I don't know how much they rely on offensive techs.