'Jap' is a racial slur.

[Chuck_Norris]

JP. Say JP. Don't say Jap.

[Mike]

In before "Jap is just a shortened way of saying Japan / Japanese." I completely agree with you though Chuck.

[AndyPandy]

Its silly isnt it. Is Brit a racial slur? ..I dont think so. Paki is though apparently.

Its funny how some people consider these shortening of words a racist. I think some people are very sensitive. I certainly wouldnt care if someone refered to me as a Brit. I guess it depends on the country.

I've never actually asked a person in Japan if they consider it offensive, same with asking an american if they consider Yank offensive...damn it I dont know.

[Mike]

Its silly isnt it. Is Brit a racial slur? ..I dont think so. Paki is though apparently.

Its funny how some people consider these shortening of words a racist. I think some people are very sensitive. I certainly wouldnt care if someone refered to me as a Brit. I guess it depends on the country.

I've never actually asked a person in Japan if they consider it offensive, same with asking an american if they consider Yank offensive...damn it I dont know.

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap

[joefro]

I agree. I wish the ignorant PSU general trolls would grow up and quit saying it. I mean come on, JP is even easier to type!

[Outrider]

Its silly isnt it. Is Brit a racial slur? ..I dont think so. Paki is though apparently.

Its funny how some people consider these shortening of words a racist. I think some people are very sensitive. I certainly wouldnt care if someone refered to me as a Brit. I guess it depends on the country.

I've never actually asked a person in Japan if they consider it offensive, same with asking an american if they consider Yank offensive...damn it I dont know.

It's all about the context.

"Brit" was never used as a derogatory term for an entire generation. "Jap" was.

[Volcompat321]

It's like "Jew".
I'm not Jewish or Japanese, but I don't think I'd like to be called a "Jew" or "Jap".

A derogatory term for American, would probably be "American".
Some countries thinks that speaks for itself.
:wacko:

[Wintermute0]

FYI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap

All hail wikipedia, let's base all our beliefs off the almighty webpage!

[Outrider]

All hail wikipedia, let's base all our beliefs off the almighty webpage!

I can't tell if this is a bad attempt at trolling or a bad attempt at humor.

[Powder Keg]

He has a point.

Wikipedia, while normally a great source of information, isn't the all-knowing guide to perfection.

On the subject, I'm honestly shocked that a lot of people don't or never knew about it being a slur. I learned that from someone when I was a wee one after watching it used in the Three Stooges.

[Outrider]

He has a point.

Wikipedia, while normally a great source of information, isn't the all-knowing guide to perfection.

On the subject, I'm honestly shocked that a lot of people don't or never knew about it being a slur. I learned that from someone when I was a wee one after watching it used in the Three Stooges.

He would have a point if the article in question was incorrect about the origin of the word.

Hence the "must be a troll/joke failure" response.

[AC9breaker]

What about jip-jap weeaboo moonspeak?

[Weeaboolits]

It's carried negative connotations since WWII, I'm not quite sure how people manage not to know that.

[Sayara]

Who studies at school i mean sheesh

[Lunairetic]

All hail wikipedia, let's base all our beliefs off the almighty webpage!
How very pompous of you. Wiki is not infallible, no, and neither is it a concrete citation because of its open-source ideology, but on a general, largely accessible, and information gathering basis, it is more spot on than any other source on the internet, and more encompassing than any text in print.

[Nitro Vordex]

JP. Say JP. Jap is a racial slur.
You must understand, Chuck, that the people you reference that don't know what "Jap" means have never actually paid attention to History class, or passed it.

Or listened to grampa's ramblings.

[UnderscoreX]

Pretty sure JPN is the preferred abbreviation for Japan. You racist.

[Shadowpawn]

Or you could just type out Japanese. With spellcheck built into every browser nowadays there isn't a reason to abbreviate everything under the sun unless you're THAT addicted to Twitter.

[Chuck_Norris]

This thread used to be part of this (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174163) thread.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

This thread used to be part of this (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174163) thread.
And nobody erased his a. A once highly modified offense, staff everyday look out for.

This is a very old (Rant) topic on PSOW.

:JPsmile: even needed closure once due to such. :jpsmile:

Okay, wiki means no. Lets point to Nicholas Cage screaming out not "Charlie," but the "Japs" he was fighting in World War 2, Hollywood movie "Windtalkers." Or maybe Urbandictionary might even be more credible to kids today?

[astuarlen]

This is a very old (Rant) topic on PSOW.

:JPsmile: even needed closure once due to such. :jp smile:


What's great about the emoticon renaming issue is that the image itself is still nastily stereotypical and completely unnecessary, its very existence--nevermind execution--being highly problematic. Actually, I kind of forgot it was restored... now I'm of a mind to bring this up with The Management. It may have been a legacy of some default emoticon set added when the board was young, but it should, unquestionably, go.

[spoiler-box]I'll avoid using the R word, just because that automatically puts a lot of people on the (indignant) defensive.[/spoiler-box]

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

I wasn't aware of (CAPS or not) case sensitive typing out the first one. Uppercase then preview, nothing, could've been gone. All lowercase it showed after posting.

For those who think its shorthand, yeah you got your LAX, SFO, PHX.

You do not have your "JAP," Japan Airline Port/Place:

http://www.world-airport-codes.com/world-top-30-airports.html

http://www.world-airport-codes.com/alphabetical/country-name/j.html
(Country Abbreviation as well is JP)

Not Japan, but Costa Rica

http://www.world-airport-codes.com/costa-rica/punta-renes-8793.html

[Kion]

At the restaurant I work at, I get called gaijin all of the time. It`s nicer if they add gaikokujin, or gaijin-san for the complete more polite word, but it`s basically the same thing. Either way it really doesn`t bother me. Being politically correct isn`t everything, it`s the context.

[Datsun 510]

Actually, it's funny, my friend Amanda is half Japanese, and calls herself this all the time... In public, though, full japanese people will look at her all pissed off until they get cussed out in japanese

"a white chick speaking japanese?! That's it, i'm moving back to Okinawa!"

[HeartBreak301]

Racial slurs exist because they offenders know it offends the offendee. Stop being offended and getting mad and we won't see this as much. I'm Irish, I don't get pissed if someone calls me a wifebeating drunk, I just ignore them.

[astuarlen]

So, who wants to play racism bingo? We've got cards aplenty. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lizhenry/sets/72157612897466679/)
I'm far from a perfect ally, but at least I can point out some of the more egregious examples of ick here:

Trying to make the case that slurs against people of color are congruent to stereotypes about groups of white people is a too-common but fallacious exercise. To do so is to completely ignore the context of historical and ongoing oppression by which white people above all (and, yes, even acknowledging that white folks are not a monolith and have/can experience systemic oppression--though, in the U.S. for instance, groups of particular European immigrants [e.g. Germans, Irish, Italians, etc] who were initially targeted by earlier adopters of colonialism in N.Am. have eventually claimed the mantle of white privilege) have benefited through colonialism, cultural imperialism, economic exploitation, the othering of people of color, etc. Stereotyping ("positively" see: "model minority", "neutrally", or negatively), slandering, or positioning any group of people as the other/outsider is unacceptable. But these two situations are fundamentally distinct and operate on different levels, given the larger contemporary and historical context of power--not to mention the fact that the perspectives on privileged groups offered by cultural artifacts, entertainment, and historical accounts are vastly more varied and nuanced than depictions of people of color in what we call Western societies.

Furthermore, the presumed approval of an individual or segment of individuals from a targeted group for X slur/stereotype/insult or their reappropriation of certain terms doesn't give blanket permission for the use or perpetration of these words and ideas and does not relieve the words of their context and implications.

Finally, one cannot blame a victim for the actions of an aggressor (although I've found this is one of America's favorite pastimes) or the oppressed for the actions of the oppressor. The responsibility for offering respect and dealing with one's own negative acts and attitudes is on the offender--the one with power and privilege.

[washuguy]

Racial slurs exist because they offenders know it offends the offendee. Stop being offended and getting mad and we won't see this as much. I'm Irish, I don't get pissed if someone calls me a wifebeating drunk, I just ignore them.

Thats what i'm saying, we give words power... If we let the people know it hurts or offends us, they're gonna keep using the word as a weapon. Solution? Ignore the person, let them be ignorant and call you whatever they want. Is it right? Nawwwww... But what are you gonna do? MAKE them say something else? i'm done trying to MAKE people do stuff. We're all individuals and that needs to be respected. Let freedom of speech truly reign and stop judging eachother and everyone will get along just fine.... However... If you don't want to be called a certain something, then fine, that should be respected as well i guess...

[HeartBreak301]

Thank you, my point is that people overreact too much. The world is an ignorant place. You can't expect everyone to know it offends you, especially with "Jap", thats an uncommonly known racial slur. (around me it is) So just roll with the punches, even if they're completely unintentional.

[Outrider]

While in a perfect world I would agree with you guys, the fact of the matter is that there are many people that are rightfully offended by this terminology and I think it's hard for somebody who has never been offended by a term (or even known why it was offensive) to say whether or not it's okay to user it in a non-offensive way.

[ShinMaruku]

Or you could just type out Japanese. With spellcheck built into every browser nowadays there isn't a reason to abbreviate everything under the sun unless you're THAT addicted to Twitter.
People are that stupid though. :E

[Zero Revenge]

While in a perfect world I would agree with you guys, the fact of the matter is that there are many people that are rightfully offended by this terminology and I think it's hard for somebody who has never been offended by a term (or even known why it was offensive) to say whether or not it's okay to user it in a non-offensive way.

Then there are many people that need to rightfully get over it.

[Nitro Vordex]

Then there are many people that need to rightfully get over it.
So, you're saying if I call a black person the N word, or an Asian person the CH word, or a Mexican/Latino person the S word, and they get mad, I should just tell them to get over it?

Hey, you're an idiot, by the way.

[HAYABUSA-FMW-]

If more people started using and passing on JPN <- look at that, the same # of letters, or my fave (co.)jp, then there wouldn't be a problem at all to have to avoid - even in being oblivious to it.

But then we got someone above who says other people need to change, instead of the ones who really need to change - even if just changing the abbreviation - shouldn't, "other people need to get over themselves."

Good thing this is just a small sampling of people, usually the sheltered gamer teenager exploding barrels, quick to be "smart" or self-righteous about any little thing. They got time to grow up, make better friends, forget stupid things their parents pass on and they don't realize it.

[Zero Revenge]

So, you're saying if I call a black person the N word, or an Asian person the CH word, or a Mexican/Latino person the S word, and they get mad, I should just tell them to get over it?

Hey, you're an idiot, by the way.

It still makes you a racist dipshit, and you're asking to get your ass kicked; but they shouldn't let a word control them like that.

And Hey, thanks for your opinion. :roll: I'll put it right alongside the others.

[Volcompat321]

It still makes you a racist dipshit, and you're asking to get your ass kicked; but they shouldn't let a word control them like that.

And Hey, thanks for your opinion. :roll: I'll put it right alongside the others.

People shouldn't let a lot of things "control" them, but it's part of being human.
If you've never experienced racism, you have no idea how it can get to you.

For my situation, I'm white, and love the dark ladies.
I get criticized all the time for it, but I'm not too bothered by the smart-ass jokes I hear.

Though I will not say it's as bad as what the ladies get.

Anyway, I think you're just being ignorant about this situation.

Have you experienced any racism, ever?
If not, then what you say from now on is pretty much a joke.

[Nitro Vordex]

It still makes you a racist dipshit, and you're asking to get your ass kicked; but they shouldn't let a word control them like that.

And Hey, thanks for your opinion. :roll: I'll put it right alongside the others.
People always think that words are just words. But words have meaning, and the meaning of those particular are meant to hate, enrage, and undermine other people. Words aren't created to just be shrugged off, they all have some kind of meaning to them, and some shouldn't be said because of the friction and and hate in them. We're supposed to be moving forward away from that kind of crap, not backwards.

To be fair, I'm guessing you come from a place where there's a huge mix of people.

[Zero Revenge]

Have you experienced any racism, ever?
If not, then what you say from now on is pretty much a joke.

Of course I have. Who can honestly say they haven't? I used to let it bother the shit out of me when I was young and naive - in High School, but now that i'm practically done with College, I'm not as.... what's the word... I don't let other people's opinions about me bother me. Atleast not anymore.

Came college, when alot of the assholes I went to High School came to the same college, and the same "jokes" continued for a while. I ignored most of it, and I kicked the crap out of a kid who insulted me in front of my new-friends [as my reputation in High School was less than stellar].

So it comes down to that. If you let it bother you, then you're letting the other person win. No matter if it's a racial or homosexual term, all that matters is to know that the insulter is an ignorant little shit. Be the better man and don't let it bother you.

Or do what I did and kick the crap outta him, that stopped it too. But whenever I get into arguments and anyone calls me a fucking cracker, queerbate or faggot, I don't get all huffy or offended, I shrug it off. Whatever this asshole says doesn't bother me, I don't let it.


For my situation, I'm white, and love the dark ladies.
I get criticized all the time for it, but I'm not too bothered by the smart-ass jokes I hear.

Though I will not say it's as bad as what the ladies get.

Anyway, I think you're just being ignorant about this situation.

See, right away your viewpoint is different on this because you're calling these insults "smart-ass jokes" as if that almost okay's the actions of these people. Where do you live? I am quite shocked that you, in Florida, are catching flak for dating an ethnic girl [be it black or whatever, you just say "dark"].

Oh, I'm not ignorant about this, I know what's said about white girls who date black men, coal burner, etc. I'm not oblivious about how the world looks at people; but I think if people as a whole didn't let these words bother them [or use them in there own groups, IE: Blacks calling themselves the N-Word] then it would have been phased out.

And I'm quite shocked... when I was in High School in my predominately-white town, I dated a black girl, Hispanic girl, half-Chinese/Indian girl, and never caught flak for it [atleast not for it being a ethnic relationship] atleast not from other White Kids, it was the girl's side of the people that were against it.. And that's in a white town in New Jersey. But then again, maybe that's the key. New Jersey, one of the most diverse states in the Union...


To be fair, I'm guessing you come from a place where there's a huge mix of people.

Actually I didn't. I was raised in a predominately-white area, but soon after leaving High School, moved to a predominately black & Hispanic area. [So, actually the answer would be a resounding "yes".]

[Volcompat321]

So it comes down to that. If you let it bother you, then you're letting the other person win. No matter if it's a racial or homosexual term, all that matters is to know that the insulter is an ignorant little shit. Be the better man and don't let it bother you.
Or do what I did and kick the crap outta him, that stopped it too. But whenever I get into arguments and anyone calls me a fucking cracker, queerbate or faggot, I don't get all huffy or offended, I shrug it off. Whatever this asshole says doesn't bother me, I don't let it.


I was never a lover. More of a fighter. :p
It's always worked for me. I'm still considered the "crazy" one of all my friends.
Which I'm fine with.
I don't get bothered at all with the homosexual remarks, because I'm not one, or homophobic.
My sisters used to call me "gay" and "faggot" all the time. I never cared if the people at school said that shit. I just told them to shut the eff up. Never beat anyone up for that.


See, right away your viewpoint is different on this because you're calling these insults "smart-ass jokes" as if that almost okay's the actions of these people. Where do you live? I am quite shocked that you, in Florida, are catching flak for dating an ethnic girl [be it black or whatever, you just say "dark"].


The reason I call racist remarks "smart-ass jokes" is because nowadays, the people are too fucking stupid to make any type of educated opinion about someone of a different race.
So it's not that I have a different viewpoint. I understand where you're coming from. I just make sure I take in all aspects of a situation.


Oh, I'm not ignorant about this, I know what's said about white girls who date black men, coal burner, etc. I'm not oblivious about how the world looks at people; but I think if people as a whole didn't let these words bother them [or use them in there own groups, IE: Blacks calling themselves the N-Word] then it would have been phased out.

Well, here again, you're talking about removing a human emotion.
Words will always bother people.
Sometimes words can be more violent than physical confrontation.

I think the "blacks calling themselves the N-word" has nothing to do with phasing the word out.
They aren't using any racist term to each other, and it doesn't mean the same thing as a white or any other race than black saying it.
It's kinda hard to explain that without looking racist myself, so I'll just stop.


And I'm quite shocked... when I was in High School in my predominately-white town, I dated a black girl, Hispanic girl, half-Chinese/Indian girl, and never caught flak for it [atleast not for it being a ethnic relationship] atleast not from other White Kids, it was the girl's side of the people that were against it.. And that's in a white town in New Jersey. But then again, maybe that's the key. New Jersey, one of the most diverse states in the Union...

I don't get shit about dating dark ladies from the white young people, but more from the older people.
I see them in stores and they look at us funny. I've been called a N-lover to my face by an old bitch.
Some things people don't realize about Florida is that there are a shitton of rednecks.
There's old people that were brought up to be racist. It was just their way of living. And I mean white and black families are like this, cept from my experience, the black families are more open to inter-racial relationships, despite disliking white people.
Melbourne, Florida has 71,000+ people, not all of them are racist, but...I'd say a lot are.

[Kylie]

It doesn't offend me, but neither do a lot of other racially charged words that I won't mention here because I take pride in squeaky-clean record. I do understand why it's offensive to some people though. It was a derogatory term during World War II. But Kylie; that was so long ago! Yes, dear, I know, but "nigger" was used as a derogatory term long before "Jap" was, so I can how it can be on the same level... Again though, it isn't to me. Don't mod me! D: