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Reksanden
Nov 24, 2010, 09:46 PM
As far as i've checked, the confermed NEW characters are:
Kain (FF4)
Lightning (FF13)
Tifa (FF7)
Vaan (FF12)

It is due to be released sometime next year, for both the U.S. and Japan. I'm not sure about Europe, but I expect it to be about the same time as the U.S. release.

EDIT: Looked at Square's website for this game. Out of the old characters, the Warrior of Light and Garland are guaranteed to appear in this game. If you watch the video, it has a VERY shocking moment in it: the Warrior of Light becoming evil. Definitely not something I ever would have thought... Here is the link:

http://na.square-enix.com/dissidia_012/

Tyreek
Nov 25, 2010, 04:26 PM
Vaan gets a shot huh? About time. I was kinda irked that he never got his shot in Dissidia, despite being XII's main protagonist.

Weeaboolits
Nov 25, 2010, 06:16 PM
Still no Sazh?

Kage Shiroyuki
Nov 25, 2010, 07:59 PM
Awesome Vaan is in I'll have to.

I wish Rydia was in though.

Randomness
Nov 25, 2010, 10:22 PM
Vaan?

:disapprove: They should have taken Ashe, since she's the main character.

Tyreek
Nov 25, 2010, 10:38 PM
Treated as such. But she isn't.

Randomness
Nov 25, 2010, 10:40 PM
Treated as such. But she isn't.

The game is mostly from Vaan's viewpoint, but... it really, REALLY is about Ashe.

Outrider
Nov 25, 2010, 11:44 PM
Not really the place to get into it, but yeah, Vaan isn't the protagonist of FFXII. He's the player's viewpoint (it's kind of why the story completely shifts from him about 20% through.)

More on topic, I've gotta say I'd be interested in seeing some more FFVI characters, like Locke or Shadow. Although I guess Locke would be pretty similar to Zidane, so I guess that won't happen anytime soon. Sabin could be cool as well.

Reksanden
Nov 26, 2010, 12:43 AM
I want to see Orlandu from FFT put in Duodecim. In the original game, he was so ridiculously overpowered, the final boss was killed in less than 2 rounds. Well, I DID max him out, so...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_MYyNhgbvQho/SA36c5Q4v0I/AAAAAAAAAGg/0vtj2SVOwVE/s400/fftorlandu.jpg

Tyreek
Nov 26, 2010, 02:20 AM
Not really the place to get into it, but yeah, Vaan isn't the protagonist of FFXII. He's the player's viewpoint (it's kind of why the story completely shifts from him about 20% through.)

I've only been through a playthrough once with my roommate. But if that's the case... That's kinda... Dumb to be honest. Why be put in the role of someone who isn't even the main focus of the whole game? That's best reserved for spinoffs.

Reksanden
Nov 26, 2010, 04:45 PM
But if you've noticed, everything that happens to them (Dusk Shard, rescuing Basch)is due to Vaan's actions early in the game. If he wasn't there....

Outrider
Nov 26, 2010, 08:26 PM
I've only been through a playthrough once with my roommate. But if that's the case... That's kinda... Dumb to be honest. Why be put in the role of someone who isn't even the main focus of the whole game? That's best reserved for spinoffs.

It's an old literary technique to have the audience's main gateway into a world more of a passive observer to the main plot than the key protagonist.

It's just fairly unusual in video games.

Reksanden
Dec 5, 2010, 01:58 PM
Heard somewhere that you'll be able to use your Dissidia save data for something on Duodecim. Not sure what..... What do you guys think?
EDIT: I've also found out that there will be about twice as much music in Duodecim compared to the first Dissidia, and the songs will be more like the originals. FFVIII's regular boss theme, "Force Your Way", has been confirmed.

Randomness
Dec 5, 2010, 02:54 PM
It's an old literary technique to have the audience's main gateway into a world more of a passive observer to the main plot than the key protagonist.

It's just fairly unusual in video games.

Sherlock Holmes, for instance.

Edit:More music? NICE! I already loved Dissidia for packing so many iconic tracks in.

Reksanden
Dec 6, 2010, 05:21 PM
You know who I think would make an excellent addition to Dissidia?
The Last Remnants "The Conquerer". For those who don't know, he's so evil he makes both The Emperor and Sephiroth look soft-hearted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAu0vPvkWA
See what I mean?

Yuicihi
Dec 6, 2010, 06:51 PM
Hm, reminds me that it's been years since I've played FFIV. All I really remember about Kain is having Kain Jump nine times out of ten in battle.

More reason to put PSP2 down long enough to actually finish the first game, I guess.

Also, needs more Locke and Faris.

Rashiid
Dec 6, 2010, 07:28 PM
Still no Sazh?

He would be all that I'd use if he was in this :D
I want to pew pew pew. Sephiroth's sword aura doesn't cut it!

Outrider
Dec 7, 2010, 05:17 PM
You know who I think would make an excellent addition to Dissidia?
The Last Remnants "The Conquerer". For those who don't know, he's so evil he makes both The Emperor and Sephiroth look soft-hearted.
YouTube - The Last Remnant - Emma's last fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAu0vPvkWA)
See what I mean?

No, I do not see what you mean. What part of that video was he supposed be seen as particularly evil?

Rashiid
Dec 7, 2010, 05:29 PM
I guess being able to block many attacks = evil nowadays.

Zarode
Dec 7, 2010, 05:52 PM
YouTube - The Last Remnant - Emma's last fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhAu0vPvkWA)
See what I mean?

Uh, no. I see some Fabioooooooooooo guy slashing a guard up and stuff. And breaking down the world's worst gate. If anything, he's obviously the hero of the game. I mean, he doesn't look strong, doesn't use any cool attacks, clearly his Evasion is maxed out. Just a lv9999 character taking out one of the many evil and unverified villages.

Rashiid
Dec 8, 2010, 03:07 PM
Laguna GET
[SPOILER-BOX]http://i54.tinypic.com/28lylb5.jpg[/SPOILER-BOX]

Seems to be an overworld system, just like FFI. You also fight wild encounters (including mega bosses like Omega Weapon) using a team of 3 people.

Monochrome
Dec 8, 2010, 06:29 PM
Laguna seals it. I'm buying this.

Not that I wasn't already, as I've spent a record number of hours on the first one (well, a record for me playing a handheld game anyway).

Randomness
Dec 8, 2010, 06:58 PM
Laguna seals it. I'm buying this.

Not that I wasn't already, as I've spent a record number of hours on the first one (well, a record for me playing a handheld game anyway).

Which game is he from?

Neith
Dec 8, 2010, 07:10 PM
Which game is he from?

Final Fantasy VIII, he was kind of a main character for a party you controlled during dream sequences in the game. You learn more about him later in the game, but he's pretty important.

He's also a million times more interesting than Squall ever was during the game :disapprove: I love FF8, but Laguna was more memorable than Squall for me.

Anyway, I might pick this up when it's cheap. I didn't really play much of the first Dissidia, and not sure if I'm interested in this yet.

Randomness
Dec 8, 2010, 07:11 PM
There's two gripes I have with the first Dissida.

1)Infinite airtime. Complete BS, and very annoying as, say, Firion.
2)No infrastructure.

Hopefully they're addressed in this.

Rashiid
Dec 8, 2010, 07:41 PM
I agree with the air thing with certain characters like Firion. He is complete garbage in the sky (they're redoing his entire ability list, btw). I wish there was more emphasis on ground combat since I like most of the moves on the ground.

We're in the air like 90% of the time in Dissidia ._.'

Randomness
Dec 8, 2010, 07:57 PM
I agree with the air thing with certain characters like Firion. He is complete garbage in the sky (they're redoing his entire ability list, btw). I wish there was more emphasis on ground combat since I like most of the moves on the ground.

We're in the air like 90% of the time in Dissidia ._.'

Well, its annoying to curbstomp someone with, say, Gabranth, and then lose because they just cling to the ceiling and you have no good HP attacks for it.

DoubleJG
Dec 8, 2010, 11:13 PM
Kain AND Laguna?!?!?! My two favorite characters... wow, this game is looking to be amazing so far, especially with the over-world system being included.

Now, if only they could include Locke from FFVI ;)

Rashiid
Dec 8, 2010, 11:59 PM
With all these new heros, I'm wondering how Chaos ever stood a chance in the past, lolol. I want more antagonists damnit! (although they usually ride solo...)

Randomness
Dec 9, 2010, 12:20 AM
With all these new heros, I'm wondering how Chaos ever stood a chance in the past, lolol. I want more antagonists damnit! (although they usually ride solo...)

Well, there's still what's his name from IV. Final boss guy.

Zarode
Dec 10, 2010, 12:38 AM
Well, there's still what's his name from IV. Final boss guy.

Zeromus?

Reksanden
Dec 11, 2010, 02:15 AM
Apparently, Laguna from VIII is now a char. in Duodecim. That means running around, shooting, and throwing grenades. Joy.

Shakuri
Dec 11, 2010, 02:18 AM
I always did have a thing for Laguna, don't know why but he's just one of the most charming FF characters for me. Looks like I've got a new main (even if he isn't as broken) so move over Terra.

Rashiid
Dec 16, 2010, 11:31 AM
Time for some action!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qIl5iDCTZU&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au02UMV22IM&feature=player_embedded

Reksanden
Dec 17, 2010, 08:57 PM
Ooooooo! Just had an idea! Why not put Beatrix from FF9 in Duodecim?

Randomness
Dec 17, 2010, 11:01 PM
Tifa? Nice.

Edit: Final Heaven and a Quickening chain. Expected. Looks like Vaan has the same EX controls as Gabranth did, AKA easy as hell. Tifa's looks like one worth using auto-input for though.

Edit2: So, Lightning's running paradigms in battle. I see her using the attacks from her summon as HP moves. Army of One showed up, but it looked to be a BRV attack (Appropriate, as its a move used to build up the break multiplier, as opposed to one that consumes it for massive damage like Highwind). Disappointed not to see her EX Burst, but its got to be Zantetsuken.

Curious where they pulled Vaan's moves from, though he's wielding Tournesol, at least during EX mode.

RenzokukenZ
Dec 17, 2010, 11:09 PM
Ooooooo! Just had an idea! Why not put Beatrix from FF9 in Duodecim?

I agree with this 100%. They can put her in as Chaos, after all she is one of the few undefeatable bosses in Final Fantasy.

Randomness
Dec 17, 2010, 11:24 PM
I agree with this 100%. They can put her in as Chaos, after all she is one of the few undefeatable bosses in Final Fantasy.

True unbeatable, or just story-unbeatable?

RenzokukenZ
Dec 17, 2010, 11:26 PM
You fight her 3 times, and lose every single one.

Rashiid
Dec 18, 2010, 01:05 AM
More information!

Laguna tips, I guess.

Laguna:

Final Fantasy VIII's Laguna is described by battle director Takeo Kujiraoka as a "Tactical Gunner." Players must use of a variety of guns, making use of what Kujiraoka referred to as "tricky attacks." His style is to fight strategically, attempting to get behind his opponent for instance.

Laguna makes use of a variety of weapons for his Brave Attacks. By holding down the attack button, you can make these attacks change properties. For instance, hold down the attack button when using a machine gun and you'll get repeat fire. Hold down the button when using a shot gun, and your bullets will fire out as a bunch, leading to a more powerful attack.

Regarding the machine gun, Kujiraoka likens the control feel to a TPS (third person shooter). The gun fires automatically as you hold the attack button down, and you're free to run around with the analogue pad.

Laguna's sniper rifle looks like it will play into the tricky side of the character. Bullets from the rifle ricochet off walls. You can use this trait to aim down at the ground in order to take out enemies above you.

Both the rifle and rocket launcher allow you to freely aim with the analogue pad. The rocking launcher uses homing bullets.

When using grenades, the distance Laguna tosses the grenade is determined by the number of times you press the attack button before firing.

Laguna's HP attacks use a weapon themed around the Ragnarok ship that appeared in Final Fantasy VIII. His EX Burst move is called "Ultimate Ragnarok Canon and is based off his "Desperado" limit break from FFVIII.

New attacks. I'm sure there are tons more since a lot of characters needed tune-ups *coughFirioncough*

These characters have new attacks. Squall has "Fire Ballet," a new Brave Attack which sends multiple fire blasts chasing after the enemy. Ultimecia has Knight's Sphere, a new Brave Attack that pierces an enemy in front for her with a giant sphere. Onion Knight has a new skill called "Power Up," which increases stats such as critical, physical attack and physical defense.

Joining the new character details, Famitsu introduces a new battle map, Final Fantasy III's Crystal Tower. According to Kujiraoka, the staff wanted to have a different type of background for this setting, so they decided to place the fight on the outside of the tower. The map is flat, but there's a giant tower in the middle. You can climb the tower to a certain extent, allowing you to see the background into the distance.


Le~World Map.

The World Map

Screenshots make this truly look like an RPG. You can see all three characters in your party on the field. You can actually talk to these characters, potentially gaining hints.

One screen shows Lightning, Tifa and Laguna engaged in conversation, presented with RPG-like dialogue boxes. Tifa says "Just like Vaan said, I get the feeling that they're increasing."

The "they" in Tifa's comment is in reference to the "Imitation," the name for the enemies you encounter roaming about the world map. When attacked by the enemy, or when you attack the enemy, you'll be transported to a battle map for combat.

Story mode planning director Shouta Shimoda shared a few additional details on the mode with Famitsu.

Shimoda describes the mode as being greatly advanced over the story mode found in the original Dissidia. Players will be able to experience a story while exploring the world, taking in new scenarios and events.

"The setting is 'a world that once had towns,' so there are no towns," explained Shimoda. However, there will be "special" shops. These are indicated by special markers on the map.

The story mode is party based. Your party will sometimes be set in advance as part of the scenario of the current chapter. Other chapters will allow you to freely set your party. Shimoda suggested picturing something like Final Fantasy VI.

Split
Dec 18, 2010, 02:24 AM
Tifa? Nice.

Edit: Final Heaven and a Quickening chain. Expected. Looks like Vaan has the same EX controls as Gabranth did, AKA easy as hell. Tifa's looks like one worth using auto-input for though.

Edit2: So, Lightning's running paradigms in battle. I see her using the attacks from her summon as HP moves. Army of One showed up, but it looked to be a BRV attack (Appropriate, as its a move used to build up the break multiplier, as opposed to one that consumes it for massive damage like Highwind). Disappointed not to see her EX Burst, but its got to be Zantetsuken.

Curious where they pulled Vaan's moves from, though he's wielding Tournesol, at least during EX mode.He used the Masamune, too, which makes sense because he tends to be the best character for that weapon. I also saw the Gastrophetes, which is the best crossbow in XII(when he does that rapid-fire long distance attack), and the Whale Whisker, the best pole (the long Bo staff-like object with the twirling attacks). There were a few others, too...

I like the fact that instead of making him just another derivative sword/sword-and-shield wielding character like they could so easily have done, they took into account the fact that he doesn't actuaily have a canonical primary weapon and some people may have played through the entire game with a gun in Vaan's hands or something weird like a measure (or they were like me and just kicked him out of the party as soon as possible to rot in the reserves). Great, interesting gameplay decision on their part. Too bad he's one of the most awful, grating characters in Final Fantasy's history :wacko:

RenzokukenZ
Dec 18, 2010, 06:22 AM
Vaan is pretty much the Jar-Jar Binks of Final Fantasy, but I will admit that they made him look fun to play as.

So far they introduced 5 new characters, and they are all for Cosmos. And they mentioned that they will reveal a new character shortly, the only clue we have as to who this character may be is the word 'Shocking'

Any guesses?

Wayu
Dec 18, 2010, 06:48 AM
I call dibs on Lightning ^^;.

I'm betting that one of those 5 will be Kadaj, Barthandelus, Orphan, one of the Undying (probably Attacus/Spartacus), Stella Nox Fleuret, Noctis Lucis Caelum, or one of the Agito characters (most likely the tarot boy, Ace?).

Or for total lulz Vergincetorix or Long Gui...or Titan...

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Dec 18, 2010, 06:54 AM
You only want her gunblade :D

I just want Beatrix, and I can be happy

Wayu
Dec 18, 2010, 07:11 AM
Nah, Lightning's just a beast in general.

Her voice-acting in the US version makes her sound kinda weird, though.

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Dec 18, 2010, 07:43 AM
Seemed to match perfectly to me. And yeah, Army of One is beast.

Wayu
Dec 18, 2010, 08:56 AM
Ultima Weapon (Axis) + Hermes' Sandals + Sprint Shoes + Whistlewind Scarf + Nimbleton Boots = Absolute Rape.

-Wayu

Rashiid
Dec 18, 2010, 09:08 AM
Barthandelus could totally work as a Chaos character though. We saw his magic in one cutscene, and his EX Burst could be his big laser face-rape mode.

Wayu
Dec 18, 2010, 09:12 AM
The PEDOBEA - er., PEDOBARTHANDELUS MODE.

-Wayu

Reksanden
Dec 18, 2010, 10:31 AM
I did read somewhere that Firion's controls were changed. Like, he'll be pretty much a different character.

Split
Dec 18, 2010, 02:27 PM
Barthandelus could totally work as a Chaos character though. We saw his magic in one cutscene, and his EX Burst could be his big laser face-rape mode.I'll bet they use Rosch as the FFXIII villain, though. He'd be more congruous with the rest of the human(oid) chracters than Barthandelus, and he does have a katana, even though you never see him really use it in the game. They could use Cid Raines, too.

Randomness
Dec 18, 2010, 02:51 PM
I'll bet they use Rosch as the FFXIII villain, though. He'd be more congruous with the rest of the human(oid) chracters than Barthandelus, and he does have a katana, even though you never see him really use it in the game. They could use Cid Raines, too.

I can't even remember who Rosch was... Cid would be neat though, and he would fit, since he was a major non-party part of the story (And a boss)

Rashiid
Dec 18, 2010, 03:32 PM
This is Rosch.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy2/de/images/d/dd/Yaag_Rosch_FFXIII.jpg
In case it's considered a spoiler even though it's kind of common knowledge...
[SPOILER-BOX]He was the guy that was obsessed with keeping Cocoon safe, even using extreme measures.
The thing is, I didn't see him evil since he was technically doing his job and everyone saw l'Cie as the enemy, refusing to hear their story on how they're actually the good guys. He also was the pilot of the Proudclad.[/SPOILER-BOX]

RenzokukenZ
Dec 18, 2010, 05:44 PM
I did read somewhere that Firion's controls were changed. Like, he'll be pretty much a different character.

This is true. While everyone else will gain a few additional skills, Firion will be completely redisigned. I hope they still keep him based on his title of "Weapon Specialist"

Rashiid
Dec 18, 2010, 05:56 PM
Just give him something useful in the freakin' air. If a CPU was Very High or anything more, I was screwed using him.

Randomness
Dec 18, 2010, 06:26 PM
Oh yeah, that guy. Yeah, he might actually be a better choice than Cid...

Of course, either of them would be stretching it as far as Chaos goes (Sort of like Jecht and Golbez did)

Randomness
Dec 18, 2010, 06:27 PM
This is true. While everyone else will gain a few additional skills, Firion will be completely redisigned. I hope they still keep him based on his title of "Weapon Specialist"

Well, we do have Vaan now also playing with a bunch of weapons. Bartz doesn't count, since he's copying attacks altogether.

Split
Dec 18, 2010, 08:06 PM
[SPOILER-BOX]He was the guy that was obsessed with keeping Cocoon safe, even using extreme measures.
The thing is, I didn't see him evil since he was technically doing his job and everyone saw l'Cie as the enemy, refusing to hear their story on how they're actually the good guys. He also was the pilot of the Proudclad.[/SPOILER-BOX]Just because he's not evil doesn't mean he isn't an antagonist in the story's terms. Plus, Jecht isn't exactly evil, but he's still in Dissidia, and I'm sure there are other villains in there that aren't totally evil, either, not that I can think of any right now...

I don't know if he's major enough enough to be the main villain of the story, though...all the official media for XIII (trailers and such) made him out to be the main bad guy in the story, but he ends up being very much an ancillary character, and the main villain would be Barthandelus, like everyone's saying. Kind of a predicament...

Rashiid
Dec 18, 2010, 09:37 PM
It says on the wiki site that Rosch was possibly Lightning's instructor, which could actually be a reason to put him in to have a trainer/student relation, sort of like Tidus/Jecht even though technically Jecht isn't evil.

Wayu
Dec 19, 2010, 03:27 AM
But Rosch is a push-over ^^;.

Even the Proudclad went down within 3 minutes lol.

-Wayu

Randomness
Dec 19, 2010, 11:26 AM
Just because he's not evil doesn't mean he isn't an antagonist in the story's terms. Plus, Jecht isn't exactly evil, but he's still in Dissidia, and I'm sure there are other villains in there that aren't totally evil, either, not that I can think of any right now...

I don't know if he's major enough enough to be the main villain of the story, though...all the official media for XIII (trailers and such) made him out to be the main bad guy in the story, but he ends up being very much an ancillary character, and the main villain would be Barthandelus, like everyone's saying. Kind of a predicament...

He'd be appropriate as an opponent for Lightning though. And Barthandelus would be difficult really, since he's giant-sized. I suppose Rosche always fights you from his mech though, so they're even... ish... going to be interesting who they pick. Maybe Fang? (Due to her past, and she appears as an enemy for a brief time... but mostly for her past being as chaotic as it gets) They're already adding Kain though as a spear wielder, and Fang has the same combat abilities as Lightning anyways.

Golbez is another iffy Chaos.

Rashiid
Dec 19, 2010, 12:03 PM
Let's not forget that Barthandelus does have a human form that has powerful magic. They can easily make a bunch of moves for him and then make his EX Burst his uber-mech-rape-ownage-laser face. Only thing is his magic seems to revolve around light orbs, similar to Kuja.

Split
Dec 19, 2010, 01:02 PM
But Rosch is a push-over ^^;.

Even the Proudclad went down within 3 minutes lol.

-WayuI want to know what your strategy is (or whether you're just straight up lying :o), because I only just barely survived the fights against the Proudclad - particularly the last one - after getting shat on multiple times in both playthroughs of the game I've done, and both times I had my crystarium maxed for every character, even the ones I didn't use in the fight.

Rashiid
Dec 19, 2010, 01:11 PM
After you've mastered how to quickly stagger/all out offense/all out heal, bosses became very, very easy. I don't know if I beat them in 3 minutes, but I sure didn't struggle.

Randomness
Dec 19, 2010, 01:14 PM
Staggering is generally COM/RAV/RAV or RAV/RAV/RAV.
All out offense is RAV/RAV/RAV to spike the multiplier high and fast.

You have to be able to take the hits though to use those...

Split
Dec 19, 2010, 01:39 PM
After you've mastered how to quickly stagger/all out offense/all out heal, bosses became very, very easy. I don't know if I beat them in 3 minutes, but I sure didn't struggle.I really only had trouble on those fights, though, and I normally will stagger with Tri-Disaster/Relentless Assault, switch to Cerberus/Aggression for offense, then use Combat Clinic/Salvation (if I'm using Lightning/Hope/Vanille, which I found owns Orphan) for healing and everything works out fine.

Wayu
Dec 20, 2010, 12:27 AM
Lightning with the highest ATB Boost you can get her. Ravager. Fang on Sentinel with Sazh or Hope buffing/debuffing/blasting. Once you get the Proudclad to 90% stagger (flashing red), hit Tri-Disaster. Once 'Stagger!' hits, switch everyone BUT Lightning to Commando and blast away with a Army of One. The Proudclad's chain gauge should be around 600 if not more and attack normally. You should be able to down the thing in one stagger. If not, set Sazh/Hope to Medic, Snow/Fang back to Sentinel, but keep Lightning on Ravager to weather the retaliatory strike. Feel free to switch Lightning to Medic if you're taking too much damage here.

When the Proudclad uses its retaliatory strike, manually set Lightning to fire off one Fire/Thunder/Blizzard at a time. This'll cause her to jump back a ways and get out of that killzone while boosting the chain gauge.

Paradigms:

(I used these guys)
Light/Fang/Sazh

Rav/Rav/Rav
Rav/Sen/Rav
Rav/Com/Com
Rav/Sen/Syn
Sen/Sab/Rav
Rav/Sen/Med

-Wayu

Kage Shiroyuki
Dec 23, 2010, 02:41 PM
I would really like Rydia as a playable character even if as DLC.

Another great addition would be Gilgamesh.

Reksanden
Dec 23, 2010, 02:53 PM
Gilgamesh from which FF? If I remember right, he's in 5, 8, and 12... Correct me if i'm wrong, or if I forgot one.

Randomness
Dec 23, 2010, 03:07 PM
Gilgamesh from which FF? If I remember right, he's in 5, 8, and 12... Correct me if i'm wrong, or if I forgot one.

He's in V, VIII, IX, and XII. Also in the GBA port of VI. (Wikipedia ftw)

Kage Shiroyuki
Dec 23, 2010, 03:51 PM
And if I remember he was also in FF1 on Dawn of Souls for GBA & the PSP port of 1.

Reksanden
Dec 23, 2010, 03:59 PM
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070602080017/finalfantasy/images/archive/f/fd/20091116064345!Gilgamesh_FFXII.jpg

RenzokukenZ
Dec 24, 2010, 05:29 AM
The more popular version of Gilgamesh would be in 5, as he was a reoccuring and memorable boss. However, it might be tricky to get him to work since there's already 3 characters with a 'weapon swap' style: Bartz, Vaan, and depending on how much is changed, Firion.

Wayu
Dec 24, 2010, 07:34 AM
Lightning would also sorta fall under that category with melee/gun (Commando), magic (Ravager/Medic), and magic-sword (Gesalt/EX).

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Dec 24, 2010, 07:48 AM
Well, turns out that during the Jump Festa weekend, someone else was added into the mix. And that someone is...

Yuna.

Excuse me while I walk outside *walks outside* FUUUUUUUUUU-

Wayu
Dec 24, 2010, 08:28 AM
Well, now we have 3 popular female main characters apparently dying along the way.

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Dec 24, 2010, 12:30 PM
Dying isn't the only possible conclusion to their disappearance from the 13th cycle.

Anyway, according to the Jump Festa video, there are 2-4 things I noticed.

Jecht is a good guy (he is seen with the other Warriors of Cosmos when meeting, well, Cosmos) This also makes sense since in the original Dissidia, the Emperor told Jecht that in a previous cycle, he (Jecht) was a Warrior of Cosmos.

The only thing known about Yuna is her feet walking on water, and that you can barely see the frill of her FFX dress.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia_012/

See for yourselves.

P.S.: Terra was supposed to have been controlled in the previous cycle, and Sephiroth killed himself in that same cycle. I wonder how Square will make that work.

Randomness
Dec 24, 2010, 12:50 PM
Dying isn't the only possible conclusion to their disappearance from the 13th cycle.

Anyway, according to the Jump Festa video, there are 2-4 things I noticed.

Jecht is a good guy (he is seen with the other Warriors of Cosmos when meeting, well, Cosmos) This also makes sense since in the original Dissidia, the Emperor told Jecht that in a previous cycle, he (Jecht) was a Warrior of Cosmos.

The only thing known about Yuna is her feet walking on water, and that you can barely see the frill of her FFX dress.

http://www.square-enix.co.jp/dissidia_012/

See for yourselves.

P.S.: Terra was supposed to have been controlled in the previous cycle, and Sephiroth killed himself in that same cycle. I wonder how Square will make that work.

Well, Terra being controlled just means she was plucked from a different point in the FFVI timeline... I expect they'll make it the moment she meets Valigarmanda.

Sephiroth would be interesting.

Edit: While it could be Gabranth still, I do believe I saw Basch in the Jump Festa trailer. The art looks a lot like his FFXII art.

And hell yes to Yuna. GO GO AEON RAMPAGE MODE! (Her EX Burst should be Anima or the Magus Sisters using their overdrives, IMO. I expect her HP attacks to all invoke Aeons)

RenzokukenZ
Dec 24, 2010, 07:23 PM
Edit: While it could be Gabranth still, I do believe I saw Basch in the Jump Festa trailer. The art looks a lot like his FFXII art.

And hell yes to Yuna. GO GO AEON RAMPAGE MODE! (Her EX Burst should be Anima or the Magus Sisters using their overdrives, IMO. I expect her HP attacks to all invoke Aeons)

That wasn't Basch but rather Gabranth's new alternative outfit. The same with Ultimicia's new outfit being Edea Kramer.

I just hope they keep her in her FFX roots and not trek anywhere near that fail of a fanservice X-2. And yeah, her HP attacks could be some of her Aeon's signature attacks.

I was just expecting another female character who is far better than the rest (I've already mentioned her...)

Rashiid
Dec 24, 2010, 08:02 PM
I honestly would've been highly disappointed if Yuna didn't make it. =/

RenzokukenZ
Dec 24, 2010, 08:21 PM
I'm just starting to wonder, with 6 new characters and a few more to come, 'world map' gameplay, all new story, more soundtracks and stages, and even the original Dissidia storyline after you beat Duodecim, how will they manage to fit all that into one disk so far and still put even more stuff?

Reksanden
Dec 24, 2010, 08:37 PM
Well, however they do it, it seems that data install is going to be a MUST on this game, as it probably will be with MHF3.

Wayu
Dec 24, 2010, 08:53 PM
Then again they're stacking another whole game along with PSP2 into PSPo2i.

-Wayu

Reksanden
Dec 24, 2010, 08:55 PM
Then again they're stacking another whole game along with PSP2 into PSPo2i.

-Wayu

Thats true.

RenzokukenZ
Dec 24, 2010, 09:51 PM
Yes, that is true. Interestingly enough, this comes out a few days after Infinity in March, and all the international versions are coming in the same month as well.

Jenni Porshakin
Dec 24, 2010, 10:52 PM
Tifa and her 36JJ cups will be bouncing all over the place? Wow I feel an SNK bounce-fest coming on. Courtesy of the sick minds of SquareEnix.
there are atleast 2 inside jokes, if you can get them then you are welcome to snicker along with me. And *hint* Mai Shiranui.

Ce'Nedra
Dec 25, 2010, 07:34 AM
I really can't wait for this game, it's very cool Laguna made it in.

Now to add Seifer and i'm good to go.

Rashiid
Dec 25, 2010, 10:41 AM
Tifa and her 36JJ cups will be bouncing all over the place? Wow I feel an SNK bounce-fest coming on. Courtesy of the sick minds of SquareEnix.
there are atleast 2 inside jokes, if you can get them then you are welcome to snicker along with me. And *hint* Mai Shiranui.

They couldn't just randomly remove Tifa's bust. Not like it's Dead or Alive jiggle.

Wayu
Dec 25, 2010, 10:50 AM
Yes, those jiggles must follow the laws of physics.

Sadly for males.

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Dec 25, 2010, 11:08 AM
They couldn't just randomly remove Tifa's bust. Not like it's Dead or Alive jiggle.

Actually, her bust does get smaller on her AC costume (or it might just be her clothes making them more compact than loose like her original outfit) and when the game comes out, I'll be using the AC one just for that fact.

Kinda sucks that the EU version will get an exclusive 4th outfit for Tifa. I would laugh my ass off if it ended up being her cowgirl costume.

Rashiid
Dec 25, 2010, 11:18 AM
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/images/ff7ac_tifa.jpg

They're still pretty big to me, just doesn't seem like it since they aren't all out there sucking up Cloud's oxygen. I like her AC costume better as well; same with Cloud.

Split
Dec 25, 2010, 02:57 PM
The aforementioned jump festa trailer, for the curious:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhYGaBXOV2w&feature=player_embedded

EDIT: Also, notice Yuna's feet at 4:37

RenzokukenZ
Dec 25, 2010, 11:25 PM
I just noticed something. Since Jecht is now a Warrior of Cosmos, will that mean Tidus will be with Chaos? And if that's the case, would it in actuality be Shuyin and not Tidus?

On an off-topic note, glad to see they didn't jiggle much in the CGI ^^;

Wayu
Dec 26, 2010, 01:55 AM
Terra's mindcontrolled, isn't she?

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Dec 26, 2010, 02:09 AM
To an extent, yes, but it's unclear if she's fully into Chaos or not. Since she's seen with the other Warriors of Cosmos, it could be she's still good but being controlled from time to time.

Rashiid
Dec 26, 2010, 04:03 AM
She's a spy! D:

RenzokukenZ
Dec 26, 2010, 04:34 AM
From the wiki regarding Terra in the original Dissidia:

In a previous clash between Chaos and Cosmos, Terra was forced against her will to fight on the side of Chaos, an allusion to her enslavement to the Gestahlian Empire.

Rashiid
Jan 12, 2011, 04:52 AM
http://i.imgur.com/eMuMD.jpg


Everyone who identified that foot in the water as Yuna’s is right! It’s official, Yuna the sullen summoner from Final Fantasy X is a playable character in Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy.



Shonen Jump has the news and says Yuna has the ability to control two Aeons at the same time. The magazine has a screenshot that shows Yuna controlling Shiva and Ixion for simultaneous attacks. Yuna can also summon King Bahamut in Dissidia 012[duodecim].



Her EX Burst sounds absurdly powerful. Translated as Sending off to the spirit world, this attack makes Yuna call all of her Aeons for a consecutive set of attacks. Hmm.. I wonder if that includes "secret" Aeons like the Magus Sisters, Anima, and Yojimbo.


[hr]


Playing The original Dissidia through Dissidia 2, and Creating your own quests.

Sounds like Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy will have a robust single player mode. The PSP pre-sequel has new episodes with characters like Lightning and Laguna plus the entire storyline from Dissidia: Final Fantasy.



You’ll be able to play through the previous PSP game’s story using assist moves and other revisions made for Dissidia 012[duodecim]. Past episodes have newly created short scenarios to play too.



Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy also lets players make the fanfic of their dreams. You can make and exchange original quests in Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy. It isn’t clear how players distribute quests, but leaky retailer Game Star says quests can be shared across the country. Battle for Tifa’s heart scenario, here we come!



Square Enix included a data import feature where your save file from Dissidia: Final Fantasy or Dissidia: Final Fantasy Universal Tuning can be carried over. All character levels are retained in Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy plus you get a special accessory as a bonus.

Ce'Nedra
Jan 12, 2011, 05:11 AM
This is sweet news, nice find Rashiid :)

Summoner Yuna sounds cool, i wonder if we get to see her kick ass with Anima, and i can't wait to see if bahamut is able to use Mega Flare.

Rashiid
Jan 12, 2011, 05:18 AM
It's nice to see more magic Cosmos users. Well, I'm assuming she's Cosmos as she's a goodie-goodie in every way/shape/form.

RenzokukenZ
Jan 12, 2011, 05:53 AM
It's cool how at the end of her burst, Yuna has the same pose as in the FFX logo. And the use of Aeons would be interesting, considering the storyline with the summonings in the Dissidia world.

And I'm guessing that Tifa outfit on the bottom is the exclusive one for Europe. If that's so, then I'm not missing much.

As for the 'Create your own quests', while being a bit vague, sounds like a concept I can't wait to try out, especially if it a bit of a fanfic-like build.

And now to patiently wait for March.

Here's the temporary box art for Dissidia 012.

[SPOILER-BOX]http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1417&pictureid=17255[/SPOILER-BOX]

Wayu
Jan 12, 2011, 07:57 AM
Kinda early for a cover, no? We don't know if any other characters will be introduced...

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Jan 12, 2011, 08:33 AM
That's why it's called a TEMPORARY cover lol.

And images aside, it does have some nice info on the left side, regarding new mechanics such as the assist feature, data transfer from Dissidia and even the exclusive Tifa outfit.

There's also that Mogweb at the bottom. Could this be a hint at some sort of online play?

Seth Astra
Jan 12, 2011, 09:30 AM
I think online play was already mentioned... Also, I wonder if there will be any new Chaos characters? Oh, and that "create your own quests" thing sounds cool.

Rashiid
Jan 18, 2011, 10:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIRGNmp0fp8&feature=player_embedded]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIRGNmp0fp8&feature=player_embedded


Dissidia Duodecim Prologus Is A Paid Preview, Adds Aeris As An Assist Character


If you guessed the Duodecim Prologus trademark was for a paid demo, you were right! Square Enix formally announced Dissidia Duodecim Prologus at their press event. It’s coming to PlayStation Network now and it exclusively adds Final Fantasy VII character Aeris as an assist character to the final game.



Dissidia Duodecim Prologus will have an original short scenario (read: short storyline) and arcade mode. You can get Dissidia Duodecim Prologus for 300 yen ($3.75)



Clarification: If you buy Dissidia Duodecim Prologus you can use Aeris in the PSP game, Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy.


Also:

Gilgamesh is in Dissidia Duodecim


The Chaos side has a new ally in Dissidia 012[duodecim]: Final Fantasy. Gilgamesh from Final Fantasy V popped up at the end of a trailer shown at the first production press conference.



"It’s been a long time Bartz," Gilgamesh said before the trailer cut off.

Anndddd:

Prishe is also in Duodecim

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/01/18/square_enix_premier_live_blog/

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110118120543/finalfantasy/images/8/85/Prishe_Dissidia_012.png

For those that also played XI, yay!

RenzokukenZ
Jan 18, 2011, 10:43 AM
I take it that is was from the 1st Productions Conference?

Dissidia 012 just doesn't seize to amaze me. And I am a bit more curious about this Prologus and Aerith being only an Assist. Mostly because it gives the feeling that it would be possible for other characters to be added as Assists in the future via DLC.

And is it just me, or are most of the characters that were considered for the first game but rejected getting into 012?

RenzokukenZ
Jan 19, 2011, 04:04 AM
Bumping it, so the double post is a necessity.

While not as big as the news already mentioned, most of the original cast have recieved their new alternative outfits. Most are interesting, others look more like pallette swaps.

I always thought that the Cowgirl outfit would be the one in the European Exclusive package. I guess I was wrong...

Wayu
Jan 19, 2011, 07:44 AM
What're the new characters? Can someone give me a sit-rep? The Duodecim page refuses to load for me...

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Jan 19, 2011, 10:00 AM
Aerith as an Assist-only that is obtained via paid demo. The flowergirl from 7.

Prishe as an unknown so far. She's from FFXI, and in a nutshell, a catgirl who has the mouth of Barret.

Gilgamesh as a presumed Warrior of Chaos, making him the first new Chaos thus far. Long story short, most occuring and memorable boss in FF5.

Wayu
Jan 19, 2011, 10:06 AM
Gilgamesh pops up EVERYWHERE lol.

Excalipur...lol...

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Jan 19, 2011, 10:34 AM
It would make sense that a being who can travel through dimensional rifts like Gilgamesh to suddenly end up in the world of Dissidia.

I wouldn't be surprised if he somehow ended up in Gurhal ^^;

Wayu
Jan 19, 2011, 10:35 AM
o.0

I TEH TAEK UR WEPONZ!!!11!

-Wayu

Rashiid
Jan 19, 2011, 10:53 AM
I'm assuming Prishe will be a usable character since she's actually in the trailer (she better fucking be one.) Aeris isn't in the newest trailer since she's just an assist character.

RenzokukenZ
Jan 19, 2011, 10:56 AM
The Assist feature is starting to remind of the Pokeballs from Super Smash Brothers.

With that in mind, I want more Assist characters!!!

Wayu
Jan 19, 2011, 10:57 AM
What's an Assist Character? ^^;

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Jan 19, 2011, 11:04 AM
What's an Assist Character? ^^;

-Wayu

Assist characters act in the same manner as a Summon. In which by filling up a meter underneath your HP, you can summon your Assist character to do either a Brave attack or an HP attack, depending if you filled up the meter up to two times. These are mostly used to assist in an attack or to help break free from your opponent.

I'm sure that you can choose which character you want to be as the Assist.

Wayu
Jan 19, 2011, 11:18 AM
Nice.

Imagine Sazh as a support character lol...

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Jan 19, 2011, 11:28 AM
That would be perfect.

Prefer him as playable though :-D

Fayorei
Jan 20, 2011, 07:48 PM
Dunno if this has been posted, but both JP and US release details:

http://www.joystiq.com/2011/01/20/dissidia-duodecim-final-fantasy-release-date/

Looks like a quick time to come over here. Excited about that. Dissidia is something I've been wanting on my PSP, but I just decided to wait for this version since it has more.

Rashiid
Jan 20, 2011, 08:27 PM
That is excellent news! Thanks for the find. There must not be many new characters left to announce then. Oh well, we clearly got more than enough.

Altoh
Jan 21, 2011, 06:50 AM
I'm just happy I can redo the "Battle of the Big Bridge" again lol

Randomness
Jan 21, 2011, 01:19 PM
Nice to see a fast release here...

Can wait.

RenzokukenZ
Jan 21, 2011, 01:43 PM
US release date confirmed.

March 22, between JP (3rd) and EU (25th)

No word on english release for the demo. Maybe a week or 2 from now.

Rashiid
Jan 21, 2011, 03:00 PM
I hope we get a chance to get Aeris as an assist character =/

Edit: Didn't know places were taking Dissidia pre-orders, so got mine today!

Rashiid
Jan 21, 2011, 10:12 PM
Here's the OST case:
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/images/7/7f/Dissidia_012_-_Temp_OST_Box_Art.jpg.jpg

This shows all of the Cosmos characters, I believe.
Cloud, Terra, and Tidus must be Warriors of Chaos in Dissidia 012. D:

RenzokukenZ
Jan 21, 2011, 10:19 PM
Tidus is, and maybe Terra too. For Cloud, that would make sense as it would reflect his manipulation by Sephiroth.

Rashiid
Jan 21, 2011, 11:01 PM
Terra is probably manipulated by Kefka, as it's obvious that she was controlled at one point in the first Dissidia.

Altoh
Jan 21, 2011, 11:19 PM
I hope those 3 being on Chaos's side doesn't effect Bartz/Butz's move set

RenzokukenZ
Jan 22, 2011, 12:46 AM
Of course it will. And it will be replaced with Lightning and Vaan's arsenal. No word on the other characters, though. Maybe a Tifa uppercut and Jecht Blade combo?

I'm curious about Gilgamesh's fighting style as he is described as a Scramble Fighter, where he picks a weapon of unpredictable power. Sounds like a lot of luck and random damage...

Prishe is described as a Combo Maker, maybe to emphasize on her White Mage/Monk multiclass.

Rashiid
Jan 22, 2011, 01:45 AM
Another interesting thing I see is that Warrior of Light isn't in the center. I always felt like he was the leader of Cosmos, and now Lightning is there.

But since this is a prequel, maybe Lightning was before WoL stepped up.

Wayu
Jan 22, 2011, 02:11 AM
The game focuses on the new peeps as well, so it makes sense.

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Jan 22, 2011, 05:28 AM
Naturally, but with all the team switching going on, the other characters will still some story, all leading up to the first Dissidia.

Now for the best part. Seeing as these 8 characters are the only ones added (or rather, the only ones brought to the public eye-what's a good fighting game without secret characters ;-)) something happens to them that they do not appear in the next conflict.

Any takes?

Altoh
Jan 22, 2011, 07:38 AM
Of course it will. And it will be replaced with Lightning and Vaan's arsenal. No word on the other characters, though. Maybe a Tifa uppercut and Jecht Blade combo?


I don't know how much his move set will change but since you can play both duodecim and the first dissidia's story line in the game it makes me wonder how they'll mess with butz/bartz's move set. "In Dissidia 012, Bartz gains Lightning's Blazefire Saber, Laguna's Ragnarok Cannon, Yuna's summons, and Vaan's greatsword." maybe they switched out flood with yuna's summon, if so ima be mad lol

Rashiid
Jan 22, 2011, 11:40 AM
Naturally, but with all the team switching going on, the other characters will still some story, all leading up to the first Dissidia.

Now for the best part. Seeing as these 8 characters are the only ones added (or rather, the only ones brought to the public eye-what's a good fighting game without secret characters ;-)) something happens to them that they do not appear in the next conflict.

Any takes?

Well, as it saddens me to guess, I'm guessing that they got wiped out somehow, possibly in the final cutscene.

Either that, or they said "Meh, fuck this war, I'm moving to Canada."

Reksanden
Jan 22, 2011, 12:49 PM
Another interesting thing I see is that Warrior of Light isn't in the center. I always felt like he was the leader of Cosmos, and now Lightning is there.

But since this is a prequel, maybe Lightning was before WoL stepped up.

WoL seems to have become..... strange. In the video Square has on it's website, he says something about it being hopeless, and attacks Lightning.

Altoh
Jan 22, 2011, 01:26 PM
WoL seems to have become..... strange. In the video Square has on it's website, he says something about it being hopeless, and attacks Lightning.

They took away his Sword-Chucks of course hes strange now. (its from a webcomic called 8-bit theater)

RenzokukenZ
Jan 22, 2011, 09:35 PM
They took away his Sword-Chucks of course hes strange now. (its from a webcomic called 8-bit theater)

That or he doesn't have his Armour of Invincibility.

Altoh
Jan 22, 2011, 09:43 PM
That or he doesn't have his Armour of Invincibility.

those basterds, how could they not give him that

Randomness
Jan 22, 2011, 11:38 PM
those basterds, how could they not give him that

Then they'd have to put in Vivi with hadoukens the size of a moon.

Altoh
Jan 23, 2011, 08:28 AM
Then they'd have to put in Vivi with hadoukens the size of a moon.

That would be awesome XD we'd have to rename it the VIDOUKEN

RenzokukenZ
Jan 23, 2011, 08:45 AM
If that Create-A-Quest feature works like I hope it will, I'm making one with WoL and Terra (Warrior and Blackmage :P) going off and facing Zidane (Thief) Yuna and Tifa (White Mage and Monk) Lightning (Red Mage) and finally Garland. Sounds about right.

Altoh
Jan 23, 2011, 09:30 AM
If that Create-A-Quest feature works like I hope it will, I'm making one with WoL and Terra (Warrior and Blackmage :P) going off and facing Zidane (Thief) Yuna and Tifa (White Mage and Monk) Lightning (Red Mage) and finally Garland. Sounds about right.

lol i'd switch terra out with Shantotto because she's a black mage and in EX she wears Black Mage artifact gear, plus she has the personality that of black mage lol. And since Lightning is red mage ima assume her scarf cape thing gives +4 to her magic score lol

RenzokukenZ
Jan 24, 2011, 05:36 AM
Heh, forgot about her. Yes, she would be the perfect Black Mage.

Also, if this means anything to some of you, Dissidia 012's price will be $30 rather than the usual $40 for new PSP games on US release.

Time to put some of that aside til the 22 of March :-D

Altoh
Jan 24, 2011, 01:39 PM
Lol yea game stop owes me back 10 bucks cuz i fully payed off dissidia 012 the beginning of the month, and they thought it was 39.99

RenzokukenZ
Jan 26, 2011, 09:03 AM
Game stop is taking pre-orders?

Rashiid
Jan 26, 2011, 10:43 AM
Game stop is taking pre-orders?

Yep. Now that there's an official release date they started about last week. Random conversation with the retail dude somehow got into Dissidia and he was like "you can pre-order now if you want."



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzYRvaD-xkQ

Altoh
Jan 27, 2011, 12:36 PM
They started pre-orders around the end of December when the NA site got updated. it said you can preorder at best buy, game stop, and amazon.

Rashiid
Feb 1, 2011, 10:44 PM
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2267/wwwdotuporg13111781.jpg


Jump has officially revealed Prishe this week.

Translated info from andriasang.

The big revelation in the article is that Prishe will be voiced by Aya Hirano, a prolific voice actress with numerous anime and games to her credit (including Hana from the Yakuza series and Kanonno from Tales of the World).

The magazine doesn't seem to say much about the character in the way of gameplay details, only noting that she uses a fighter style. For a more in-depth look, we'll probably have to wait for Famitsu (which usually trails Jump by about a week for Dissidia coverage).

Also in Jump, a look at Vaan's Third Form, which is themed around the character's Final Fantasy Tactics A2 look, and gives him a bowgun for use in battle.

The magazine also reveals that the April issue of sister monthly publication V Jump (due for release on February 21) will have a huge feature on Duodecim. The magazine will include a product code for a costume of some form for Final Fantasy VIII's Squall.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 1, 2011, 10:54 PM
It's interesting to note that Cosmos now has 2 female Monks; Tifa and Prishe.

Now I will set a calender mark for the 21 of this month. And then one month later, the game :D

I'm curious about this new code outfit for Squall. Judging by the fact that most of the new outfits are from pre-existing artworks/sprites/games, more than likely it is either one of his Kingdom Hearts outfits (mullet included) or even Seifer (to somewhat follow with Ultimecia's outfit of Edea)

Rashiid
Feb 8, 2011, 09:37 AM
More random screenshots:

http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/des2.jpg

http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/des.jpg
http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/des5.jpg

http://www.true-gaming.net/tgupload/images2/des4.jpg

An official translation by SE for the trailer:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/287547/news/new-dissidia-012-final-fantasy-trailer/

If I find it on Youtube I'll post that instead.

Clear that Terra is mind controlled by Kefka, saying "Please...kill me."

Randomness
Feb 8, 2011, 11:55 AM
Oh goodie, pre-FFVI Terra. Possibly, Just-met-Valigarmanda Terra.

And since I see Shantotto, I'm going to assume Gabranth is still around for his fun playstyle. At least, its fun when you have accessories for near-endless EX mode.

Altoh
Feb 8, 2011, 04:51 PM
Lol, Butz is living up to his title the "Ass Man" standing right behind Tifa.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 8, 2011, 08:58 PM
Why do I have the feeling that, judging by how shaky she was in the beginning of Dissidia 1, Terra may have killed Vaan by accident?

Rashiid
Feb 8, 2011, 09:03 PM
HAPPY THOUGHTS REN HAPPY THOUGHTS!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUMGXcoSjyI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY6l0bYhm-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE9XqDs33Zo

RenzokukenZ
Feb 8, 2011, 11:39 PM
"The Greatest Attack Ever!"

Laguna is now my new main.

The English VA for the new characters seems fitting. Kain sounds like a Garland grunt wannabe, and I didn't hear much of Tifa. Laguna of course, is perfect!

Randomness
Feb 9, 2011, 01:13 AM
Why do I have the feeling that, judging by how shaky she was in the beginning of Dissidia 1, Terra may have killed Vaan by accident?

The only problem with that is that I'm pretty sure dying in the conflict is real death... Chaos' shenanigans aside. The most telling part may be the ending, that suspiciously resembles the beginning of FFI. Besides, the stories aren't easy to place in relative time, and Terra being shaken up was, I thought, a result of her being mind-controlled into trying to kill Onion Knight.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 9, 2011, 06:45 AM
There's a reason why the new characters don't show up in the next war (Dissidia 1) so maybe, just maybe, Vaan truly was team-killed by Terra (and perhaps while successfully freeing her)

Altoh
Feb 9, 2011, 04:30 PM
Well Terra is on Chaos's side during that time. So I don't doubt that she killed Vaan, or Gabranth killed him while he was trying to protect her. I'm also assuming Cloud killed Tifa, and Tidus killed Yuna while trying to kill Jecht.

Rashiid
Feb 9, 2011, 04:56 PM
And Laguna said "Meh too cool for this shit. Back to the dream world with me!"

New stage, from Chains of Promathia in FFXI (to go with Prishe)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVORMPipAJI&feature=player_embedded

Altoh
Feb 9, 2011, 06:30 PM
That is automatically my home stage. If I'm hosting a battle I'm always picking the Empyreal Paradox as my main stage.

Randomness
Feb 9, 2011, 06:32 PM
That is automatically my home stage. If I'm hosting a battle I'm always picking the Empyreal Paradox as my main stage.

Its Final Destination! Seriously... didn't we already have the Cosmos and Chaos stages for that?

Rashiid
Feb 9, 2011, 06:37 PM
This has no railings or anything, making it the Final Destination of Dissidia, lol. I hate when low level CPUs (from Dual Coliseum) would randomly go surfing around the entire map. ><;

I absolutely despise Sephiroth's stage.

Altoh
Feb 9, 2011, 06:42 PM
Its Final Destination! Seriously... didn't we already have the Cosmos and Chaos stages for that?

Lol I want it because I wasted 5-6 years of my life on FFXI and I've done every thing up to the halfway point of the wings of the goddess expansion before I quit. So I have a nostalgia attachment to the place. Chaos stage I'd say is more of a final destination seeing as its small and strait forward, cosmos's stage has little grind rails so its not as final destination like.

Rashiid
Feb 9, 2011, 07:50 PM
Some characters have a huge advantage at Chaos' Throne though. Wide AoE HP moves completely rape that stage. This place is a bit bigger, allowing more movement.

More leaked OST tracks from XI, XII, and XIII:

http://dissidiaforums.com/showthread.php?7358-FFXI-XII-and-XIII-Music-tracks-Hex-findings-Part-3

Altoh
Feb 9, 2011, 08:59 PM
awww man the ffxi bgms bring back so many memories can't wait to hear them in game

RenzokukenZ
Feb 9, 2011, 11:52 PM
So there are still a few more tracks left? I thought there were only 37 new tracks added.

Glad to see that 'Esper Battle' isn't the only one added for 12. Ah Golmore Jungle...

Randomness
Feb 10, 2011, 12:00 AM
I kind of wish they'd branch off the main series for music tracks. There's some REALLY good ones from some of the spin-offs.

And yes, you have some good points regarding the Chaos and Cosmos stages. Of course, the reason wide-AoE HP is so good on Chaos's level is probably because its Chaos's level, with the boss and all... (Of course, its hilarious to Tornado-juggle a level 150 Chaos to death, since it completely stops ALL his moves, except for one HP attack in a narrow window when he probably has little BRV anyways)

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 12:14 AM
The reason why SE doesn't branch out to the spinoffs for tracks, much for the same way they haven't for maps or even characters, is because those spinoffs are entirely different games. SE wants to strictly stick to the main numeral series.

It's also the reason why Yuna has a summoner playstyle in Duodecim and not in her Dressphere/Tiny Bees style.

Weeaboolits
Feb 10, 2011, 07:44 AM
I thought it was because X-2 sucked and her summoner playstyle is more interesting.

McLaughlin
Feb 10, 2011, 08:12 AM
X-2 gameplay was awesome. I loved the Dress Sphere system.

Wayu
Feb 10, 2011, 08:25 AM
So they're using Saber's Edge for Lightning? Hm...and Hanging Edge is a strange choice, unless they're planning to make it a stage.

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 08:38 AM
Now that I think about it, there is no stage for XIII...

Wayu
Feb 10, 2011, 08:53 AM
There is, actually, two of them.

One is Orphan's Cradle and the other is...forgot...the Palamecia?

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 09:03 AM
Ah right, Orphan's Cradle. Herp Derp.

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1417&pictureid=18548
US Box-art.

Before anyone asks about Prishe and Gilgamesh, those 2 are the Secret Characters for Dueodecim, hence why they're not on the cover.

Wayu
Feb 10, 2011, 09:15 AM
I guess this confirms that Cloud, Tidus, and Terra are Chaos this time around.

Also, Garland's the leader for Chaos?

Edit: That's not Sephiroth's JENOVA attire, that's his old SOLDIER jacket...

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 09:27 AM
Sephiroth's outfit is based on his original artwork by Amano. His new one is his SOLDIER outfit from FF7.

Garland has always been the 'leader' for the Chaos side. He's kickass like that.

And yes, those three are now in Chaos for relatively simple reasons.

Terra= Mind Control
Cloud= 'failed' Sephiroth Clone
Tidus= Shuyin reference

Wayu
Feb 10, 2011, 09:34 AM
So...

Tidus kills Yuna, Cloud kills Tifa, Terra does whatever?

-Wayu

Seth Astra
Feb 10, 2011, 10:33 AM
Sweet box-art.

Randomness
Feb 10, 2011, 11:06 AM
Now to stay sane until this comes out.

Thankfully, its a good two weeks AFTER White/Black.

Rashiid
Feb 10, 2011, 03:07 PM
I'd pay an extra $30 to get those dates swapped though ;o

I believe Tidus is Chaos because he was easily persuaded. Once Jecht started telling him that he's on the wrong side, Tidus, already hating his old man, decided to stay. Then, in the long run, I feel Jecht will decide "Well, the only way to get him on Cosmos's side is if I join Chaos" causing Tidus to switch sides to stay on the opposing side of Jecht.

That's my theory on Tidus. A little silly, but Jecht has done sacrifices like this in his own game :P

Altoh
Feb 10, 2011, 07:28 PM
Garland has always been the leader because if you've played FF he is Chaos.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 07:30 PM
Most FF players post-Nomura don't know that. A shame.

Randomness
Feb 10, 2011, 08:37 PM
Most FF players post-Nomura don't know that. A shame.

<3 GBA ports.

Rashiid
Feb 10, 2011, 10:18 PM
I always saw The Emperor as the leader of Chaos.

Randomness
Feb 10, 2011, 10:28 PM
I always saw The Emperor as the leader of Chaos.

He manipulated a lot of the fighter to do his bidding. Garland manipulates Chaos to do his bidding.

Bit of a difference in who they're bossing around, imo.

But mostly, Garland is the leader of the Chaos side because Garland IS Chaos.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 10:32 PM
Well, to be frank, the fellas from Chaos were mostly split up due to their own ideals.

The Emperor was sceming against the conflict of Chaos and Cosmos, while Garland spearheaded Chaos' (Garland's) main goal, similar in a way to the relationship with Lightning and WoL (WoL follows through to Cosmos' goal no matter what, while Lightning seems to be against the whole thing)

Wayu
Feb 10, 2011, 11:10 PM
So there could be a split in Cosmos as well. Maybe Lightning dies by WoL's hands?

-Wayu

RenzokukenZ
Feb 10, 2011, 11:32 PM
There was already a split in Cosmos (that's how Dissidia 1 began)

Rashiid
Feb 11, 2011, 12:06 AM
This is why I wish this was a sequel. Knowing all these new characters are going to die sucks ; ;

Split
Feb 11, 2011, 12:38 AM
Ummm...isn't Dissidia's story just filler to justify all of this fan service that isn't actually supposed to make sense?

RenzokukenZ
Feb 11, 2011, 12:40 AM
At least this will help clear some things up for the first Dissidia. The game's story has too many holes that hopefully 012 will help fill in.

And a true sequel would be difficult, seeing as the conflict is done for good.

Altoh
Feb 11, 2011, 01:44 AM
Also we don't actually know if characters die, we're just assuming they do. For all we know they could of done what they were suppose to do and ended up getting sent back to their worlds. Also you got to remember only the people on Chaos's side remember what happened in previous conflicts.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 11, 2011, 04:53 AM
Wasn't it only Sephiroth who remembers? That's why he killed himself in the previous conflict (012) I believe.

Rashiid
Feb 11, 2011, 07:22 AM
Ummm...isn't Dissidia's story just filler to justify all of this fan service that isn't actually supposed to make sense?

With that logic, no Final Fantasy should make sense since it's all fantasy anyway. Dissidia has a pretty legit story for something that's a fighter of popular protagonists/antagonists of the franchise.

Split
Feb 11, 2011, 09:37 AM
With that logic, no Final Fantasy should make sense since it's all fantasy anyway. Dissidia has a pretty legit story for something that's a fighter of popular protagonists/antagonists of the franchise.Not true. Every Final Fantasy game i've played (namely, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XII and XIII) establishes rules for the fantasy world, even if they aren't the same ones as the real world, i.e. "all living things are made of pyreflies/part of the lifestream" or "magic is an ancient art of the old world that few can wield anymore/something only l'Cie can use. Then, it plays by those rules. Dissidia is a fighting game story through and through, a jumbled convoluted mess present as unnecessary justification for why so many characters from completely different universes are interacting with each other. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, or that the game's not fun, I'm just saying you guys are wayyy over analyzing it. Dissidia is to a good numbered FF what Soul Calibur is to Othello...

Jinketsu
Feb 11, 2011, 10:08 AM
Split, are you kidding? This story is as important as Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero. Of COURSE it's gotta make sense.

Randomness
Feb 11, 2011, 04:03 PM
At least this will help clear some things up for the first Dissidia. The game's story has too many holes that hopefully 012 will help fill in.

And a true sequel would be difficult, seeing as the conflict is done for good.

They left room open for it to start up again, actually. Just not with Chaos/Cosmos.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 11, 2011, 07:00 PM
Not true. Every Final Fantasy game i've played (namely, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XII and XIII) establishes rules for the fantasy world, even if they aren't the same ones as the real world, i.e. "all living things are made of pyreflies/part of the lifestream" or "magic is an ancient art of the old world that few can wield anymore/something only l'Cie can use. Then, it plays by those rules. Dissidia is a fighting game story through and through, a jumbled convoluted mess present as unnecessary justification for why so many characters from completely different universes are interacting with each other. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, or that the game's not fun, I'm just saying you guys are wayyy over analyzing it. Dissidia is to a good numbered FF what Soul Calibur is to Othello...

But that's the thing. It's a spin-off. Naturally, the story of spin-offs are to be taken with a grain of salt, and can't really be compared to any of the main series, since the stories of the main series are more structured. Perhaps you were asking for a bit more to Dissidia's story?


They left room open for it to start up again, actually. Just not with Chaos/Cosmos.

I'm assuming you're hinting to the secret ending. As true as that may sound, it just wouldn't be Dissidia without the Chaos/Cosmos conflict. Even if they introduced some new enemy, it wouldn't work right.

Unless the new enemy is Shinryu, THEN it would work :grin:

Split
Feb 11, 2011, 07:58 PM
Split, are you kidding? This story is as important as Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero. Of COURSE it's gotta make sense.Yeah, jk haha.

No. Of course not. Are YOU kidding? Because I actually am genuinely uncertain whether or not your comment was sarcastic. I don't understand why so much analysis is going into this. Let me put on a play for you. The characters are Dissidia's story directors, sitting in a boardroom planning out the game.

A: We need an excuse to get these characters in a game together; a fighting game with all of them would own!

B: Let's put in these two arbitrary gods that have never been mentioned in the series before. One will be good and one will be evil!

A: Okay - we'll call them "Cosmos" and "Chaos." Those words sound cool and sort of sound like they're opposites...even though they aren't.

B: Then we'll make it so the good god plucks all the protagonists from each of their worlds, and the evil god does the same thing for the villains!

A: Ooooh that'd be soo epic! Then we'll make it so the evil god becomes more powerful, so the good characters have to find it in themselves to each defeat their respective villains!

C: Hey, wait a second. If these characters are taken from their worlds, presumably in the middle of the timelines of the stories in their own games since all the villains are still alive and shit, then this story can't be canon because there's no way to fit it into the numbered games!

A: Dude...you are way over-thinking this.

B: Yeah, who ever said the story had to be canon? Or even particular engaging? The only reason it's there at all is because it's some kind of universal rule that every fighting game has to have some sort of backstory to it, and some guy that left our company a while ago made it known for its storytelling. We just all still have boners from watching FFVII Advent Children and want an excuse to make a fighting game with that kind of combat and recognizable characters so that age-old fan arguments about which characters are better can finally be settled.

A: Exactly. Haven't you played Super Smash Brothers?

C: Ohhh...a non-canonical fighting game with a light story! It all makes so much sense!

A + B: Now you've got the picture!


Okay, look: I'm not trying to ruin anyone's fun here; however, I specifically couldn't let your comment go because, uhhh, no, it's not even close to being as important as MKM: Sub Zero, because that game was essential to understanding the character, fleshing out the backstory that could only be loosely conveyed in the traditional 1v1 fighting game format (and by the way, that wasn't really that good of a game either). Sorry to burst your bubble but that is the biggest bunch of malarkey I've heard (read?) today. It's not even like Dissidia's story is bad, but it's its own thing, it definitely takes a back seat to gameplay, and it's DEFINITELY not even close to being necessary to understanding either the protagonists or the villains, sampling for each of them the various epiphanies and character development points that were present in full and to much greater effect in each of their original games.

And if your post actually is sarcastic, I'm sorry, and I lol'd.

Split
Feb 11, 2011, 08:03 PM
But that's the thing. It's a spin-off. Naturally, the story of spin-offs are to be taken with a grain of salt, and can't really be compared to any of the main series, since the stories of the main series are more structured. Perhaps you were asking for a bit more to Dissidia's story?EXACTLY!!! That's what I'm saying!!! It's a simplistic spin-off story designed and therefore supposed to be be taken with a grain of salt, which is EXACTLY why I don't understand why so much analysis is going into it in this thread. I'm not against it because that would be kind of a stupid thing to be opposed to, but I just don't understand the scrutiny...

Sorry for the double post, modz

Rashiid
Feb 11, 2011, 08:04 PM
To me it sounds like just because you don't care for the story, none of us should ._.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 11, 2011, 08:32 PM
EXACTLY!!! That's what I'm saying!!! It's a simplistic spin-off story designed and therefore supposed to be be taken with a grain of salt, which is EXACTLY why I don't understand why so much analysis is going into it in this thread. I'm not against it because that would be kind of a stupid thing to be opposed to, but I just don't understand the scrutiny...

Sorry for the double post, modz

So just because it's a spin-off we shouldn't look for the little details that might connect the 2 games (Dissidia and 012) together? Seeing as, unlike other fighting games, Dissidia actually tries to put effort in a NON-CANON story.

BTW, Chaos is from FF1, and Cosmos is the only original character in Dissidia. Seeing as you're post-Nomura, I can understand you not knowing that, so you are forgiven :-)

Split
Feb 11, 2011, 09:07 PM
To me it sounds like just because you don't care for the story, none of us should ._.Wait a second...I thought I just hammered home the fact that I just don't understand the attraction to the story side of things and wasn't out to ruin anyone's fun. Here is my original post:


Ummm...isn't Dissidia's story just filler to justify all of this fan service that isn't actually supposed to make sense?

Where in there did I say "STOP ENJOYING THE GAME'S STORY." I made the above post, and I intended to leave it like that. I expressed a one sentence, 50 character-ish sentiment. Maybe someone could've replied and told me why its pieces do fit, or why the story is actually good. But instead, people started jumping down my throat and saying things that didn't make sense. if I recall correctly, you said that by my logic, if Dissidia didn't make any sense then no Final Fantasy does, which as I already explained is a blatant falsity. Then someone else said that it's as important as MKM: Sub Zero, another statement that simply isn't true (mostly because the poster was under the firm impression that that game is hugely important to enjoying Mortal Kombat, which is, once again, totally untrue).


So just because it's a spin-off we shouldn't look for the little details that might connect the 2 games (Dissidia and 012) together? Seeing as, unlike other fighting games, Dissidia actually tries to put effort in a NON-CANON story.

BTW, Chaos is from FF1, and Cosmos is the only original character in Dissidia. Seeing as you're post-Nomura, I can understand you not knowing that, so you are forgiven :-)I've beaten FFVI, which is before Tetsuya Nomura. Have to say, it was pretty damn good (although admittedly my favorite will always be FFX). So don't come at me with some kind of bullshit air of superiority, calling me "Post-Nomura". My parents may not have conceived me during the golden age of the NES/SNES, but we've all got emulators. I haven't played FF1, but I'm sure that Chaos in Dissidia is totally repurposed into his role from however he was in FF1, essentially making him a new character. That's totally beside the point I was making in that post.

Everyone, please STOP acting like I don't want you to delve into this, I just don't get what there is to delve into. That's all. Seriously, I'm starting to feel like none of you are actually reading my posts. Sure, go ahead discuss the links between the games, hell I enjoyed the first Dissidia, which I think I said earlier. I just don't think there's much to the story.

I don't get the attraction, but it's okay if you guys do.

I don't get the attraction, but it's okay if you guys do.

I don't get the attraction, but it's okay if you guys do.

I don't get the attraction, but it's okay if you guys do.

I don't get the attraction, but it's okay if you guys do.

Seriously, how many times do I have to say it before you guys stop putting words in my mouth or implications in my words?

Rashiid
Feb 11, 2011, 09:19 PM
I mean, you come in here completely bashing the story basically on how simplistic it is, then say "but sure you guys can enjoy it" and think we'll just be like "oh yeah okay thanks."

I just didn't see the point in going through all of this. If you don't think it's that deep or care for it, that's fine. Telling us this in a thread that's all about Dissidia isn't going to do much.

Edit: Don't get me wrong though. You raise some legitimate points and I can take negative criticism on games I love (as a matter of fact, all day today my friends and I saw negative/hilarious reviews of various games that we love and I laughed my ass off).

Split
Feb 11, 2011, 09:47 PM
I mean, you come in here completely bashing the story basically on how simplistic it is, then say "but sure you guys can enjoy it" and think we'll just be like "oh yeah okay thanks."

I just didn't see the point in going through all of this. If you don't think it's that deep or care for it, that's fine. Telling us this in a thread that's all about Dissidia isn't going to do much."Going through all of this" was supposed to be a one sentence-long post. Let me quote it again:


Ummm...isn't Dissidia's story just filler to justify all of this fan service that isn't actually supposed to make sense?

If anyone was going to respond at all, I expected people to say things like "No, I think it actually holds its own. The characters' complexities translate pretty well despite the fighting game-esque format."

You said that it actually has a pretty good story, but my logic was wrong. That was a totally rational defense, and I calmly defended my reasoning. I called the story jumbled and convoluted, but my response wasn't mean-spirited, which I'm sure you understood at that point. We were all having a grand old time, not so much arguing as casually debating

Then, someone called Jinketsu said something dumb, reacting as though I had insulted him personally, and it turned into a huge exercise in flame defense. The more I tried to defend myself, the more people started jumping to the wrong conclusions. I don't know how else to explain it, and I'm not trying to make enemies here, just to express an opinion. Life's more interesting when there's a devil's advocate around.

Rashiid
Feb 11, 2011, 09:59 PM
Fair enough. I never really was into Mortal Kombat so I can't speak for that D:

RenzokukenZ
Feb 11, 2011, 10:15 PM
Just a heads up, Dissidia 012's story will most likely have the exact same flow and style from the first game. So no 'Main Series quality' for us.

And to make it easier for all of us, just imagine Dissidia as a mediocre fanfic; some of us like it, and other don't.

Altoh
Feb 11, 2011, 10:27 PM
Split, best way to explain stuff is through simple explanations. I've learned quite a few people don't understand longer educated explanations(and get annoyed because they think your looking down at them). Best thing to say is "I don't like the story; it makes no sense to me, but if you like it that's cool" and if they ask why just tell them "to many plot holes for my taste" or "personal taste"

Rashiid
Feb 13, 2011, 05:03 PM
http://nsa25.casimages.com/img/2011/02/13/110213060948611486.png

RenzokukenZ
Feb 13, 2011, 07:38 PM
I believe it's called The Strongest Blade.

My guess is it works like this; either the attack will be exceptionally powerful, or only 1 HP damage :-D

Randomness
Feb 13, 2011, 09:25 PM
I believe it's called The Strongest Blade.

My guess is it works like this; either the attack will be exceptionally powerful, or only 1 HP damage :-D

That would be hilarious, to burst someone, break them during it, and then do 1 damage with 9k brave.

Wayu
Feb 14, 2011, 07:05 AM
Excalipur much?

-Wayu

Rashiid
Feb 14, 2011, 07:21 AM
A more clear shot:
[spoiler-box]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1470/00120110214115921.jpg[/spoiler-box]

RenzokukenZ
Feb 15, 2011, 12:08 AM
I can hear him now...

"Hahaha! Feel the might of my Strongest Blade!"

*does 1 hp damage*

"...Crap. Stupid Ekindu should have grapped Excalibur II instead!"

Rashiid
Feb 15, 2011, 10:33 PM
Pre-order from Gamestop nets you this:

[spoiler-box]http://www.rpgsite.net/images/art/255/dff_Cloud_KH_gear.png[/spoiler-box]

Pre-order from Amazon.com nets you this:

[spoiler-box]http://www.rpgsite.net/images/art/255/2337p_sev110_4p_FIX.jpg[/spoiler-box]

Gilgamesh officially confirmed:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8194/wwwdotuporg1351126.jpg

RenzokukenZ
Feb 15, 2011, 11:19 PM
Sweet, so that means I'm getting KH Cloud in about a month! And check out Squall's bonus outfit, straight from KH as well. No complaints (it's pretty cool actually) but I wonder when we'll get his original outfit from FF8?

Also, found this bit of info that may be interesting



In one of the cutscenes presented to the public, Garland is later seen confronting Lightning, seeing no point in fighting her and leaves for the Manikins to hunt while telling her that most of her allies have already been dealt by the strange beings. Before leaving, Garland explains that the Manikins bypass the gods' power to revive the fallen and thus they can end the existence of a warrior of either side for good.


This rises even more possibilities of how the new cast meet their end.

Wayu
Feb 15, 2011, 11:21 PM
In that case the entire new cast still isn't 'most', but then again the game focuses on the new people only.

-Wayu

Broken_L_button
Feb 15, 2011, 11:27 PM
Nice to see Gilgamesh in there. I loved how incompetent of a boss he was.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 15, 2011, 11:33 PM
At least we'll have a chance to beat him now like men, and ladies, and ladies who dress like men!

Linka
Feb 15, 2011, 11:45 PM
"The big revelation in the article is that Prishe will be voiced by Aya Hirano, a prolific voice actress with numerous anime and games to her credit (including Hana from the Yakuza series and Kanonno from Tales of the World)."

...i take it no fans of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya here, then, since nobody pointed out Aya Hirano voiced Haruhi in said anime. in light of this info, im gonn give Prishe a try. would love to hear haruhi's voice in Dissidia. assuming her english voice actor is either Aya, or her replacement for the english dub of TMOHS. HaruhiVoiced!Prishe would be kinda cool...like when i realized Firion's voiced by an old school power ranger. specifically Adam. ITS MORPHIN TIME! XD.

McLaughlin
Feb 16, 2011, 12:33 AM
Both those pre-order costumes look alright. Has the demo come out on the PSN in English yet to get the Aerith assist trophy? And how do you go about unlocking everyone else's alternate costumes?

Seth Astra
Feb 16, 2011, 12:39 AM
How do you get the pre-order costumes? Will it be a code or something?

Rashiid
Feb 16, 2011, 07:27 AM
Both those pre-order costumes look alright. Has the demo come out on the PSN in English yet to get the Aerith assist trophy? And how do you go about unlocking everyone else's alternate costumes?


1) No it hasn't.
2) No idea, probably buying them again with PP.

Pre-order stuff generally comes with a code when you receive it (along with the receipt). Be sure to remind the person behind the register - they'll forget a lot of times.

Altoh
Feb 16, 2011, 05:01 PM
It seems bartz still uses some of his old move sets with some modifications, ovada posted a video where he was fighting bartz, and he was still using the brother hood with tidus's full slide move just had a different ending animation instead of the, hazzard, buster sword slam down

Wayu
Feb 16, 2011, 06:56 PM
The demo's already out?

-Wayu

Randomness
Feb 16, 2011, 07:31 PM
Both those pre-order costumes look alright. Has the demo come out on the PSN in English yet to get the Aerith assist trophy? And how do you go about unlocking everyone else's alternate costumes?

Personally, I prefer Tifa's.

But then, if I have to choose between a guy and a chick... :wacko:

Altoh
Feb 16, 2011, 08:11 PM
The demo's already out?

-Wayu

Demo's been out since January 18th, 2011 you have to pay 300 yen for it though cuz it comes with an exclusive dlc assist character.(areis/areith)

Wayu
Feb 16, 2011, 08:16 PM
God damn it.

-Wayu

Altoh
Feb 16, 2011, 08:21 PM
Yeah, the reason I haven't downloaded the Japanese demo yet, If I'm going to pay it's going to be for the English version because I have my first dissidia's save in English cuz I lost my Japanese save data. And I don't have a CFW psp any more so can't really make a JP save file nor do I want to download one lol.

Rashiid
Feb 22, 2011, 11:24 PM
Random magazine scans.

[spoiler-box]http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/Ultimamm/79981c86.jpg[/spoiler-box]
[spoiler-box]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1974/wwwdotuporg1368748.jpg[/spoiler-box]
[spoiler-box]http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5144/wwwdotuporg1368705.jpg[/spoiler-box]
[spoiler-box]http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4487/wwwdotuporg1368746.jpg[/spoiler-box]
[spoiler-box]http://i1127.photobucket.com/albums/l634/Ultimamm/02f1bab0.jpg[/spoiler-box]

RenzokukenZ
Feb 23, 2011, 12:05 AM
Sweet, Gilgamesh's other outfits are his FF8 and FF5 appearances! Only one more month to go and it is mine!

Also nice to see that Dual Colesium is making a comeback.

Randomness
Feb 23, 2011, 12:20 AM
Yuna's alternate outfit is her wedding dress, huh? Nice.

Seth Astra
Feb 23, 2011, 12:25 AM
@Renzo: That managed to be both awesome and torturous at the same time.

Randomness
Feb 23, 2011, 12:38 AM
@Renzo: That managed to be both awesome and torturous at the same time.

I found it too easy, but that's using Terra and Gabranth with accessory sets that let me stay in EX mode forever. Especially on Gabranth, I tended to end just about any battle in <30 seconds. Charge, EX counter, and then blow their brave to -9999 in one combo before killing them. I used Destroyer on everyone too, to deal with those annoying battles where they start with like 10 HP, 9999 brave, and have a phoenix down.

Admittedly, running Blackjack with anyone other than Gabranth or Terra got to be hard.

Seth Astra
Feb 23, 2011, 12:44 AM
Yeah, it was easy (at least till now when I'm grinding the Lunar Whale course for stuff to make top tier equips, though even then it's rather easy), but sometimes it just gets boring after playing the same character for hours.

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 07:12 AM
I would've cried if the DC didn't make it back. That's basically all I do now D:

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 07:20 AM
Also, a bunch of gameplay videos for characters.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVfCFX0Ha_E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GplDeMr5Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iP9Lkz1z6E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHRTe3PnG3M

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 07:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtREswisyNE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyiQCbUZCLI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEIjWwFu7zo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP1o0nPPU9g


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1A8m4EH2Ys


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMPeOylqk58


Might've repeated some by accident. Hard transferring my post from FFXIAH to here since the coding for Youtube is different.

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 06:38 PM
World Map video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-aUm17-oSE

Weeaboolits
Feb 23, 2011, 07:19 PM
Prishe and Laguna look fun, I'm still hoping for Sazh as an unlockable, though.

Randomness
Feb 23, 2011, 07:30 PM
My only complaint about Lightning's gestalt was that she didn't do Zantetsuken properly, with a dash across the battlefield.

Having seen Yuna in action, she's definitely going to be the first new char I play.

Was it just levels that transfer, or does gear do so also somehow?

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 08:25 PM
Levels only.
Edit: As of now, they only said levels will.*

RenzokukenZ
Feb 23, 2011, 08:58 PM
Only levels, but you get a special accessory.

Personally, if it is just levels, and the accessory isn't that great (in my opinion) I might just start from scratch. Experience the adventure again... with Tifa and Laguna as my new mains :D

Am I the only guy who's mad at SE for making Tifa's chest jiggle?

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 09:09 PM
I'm not carrying over levels either. Honestly that's half the game, lol.
I'm most excited for the new Bartz and Prishe.

After DoA, Tifa's jiggle doesn't even mean anything to me.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 23, 2011, 09:17 PM
Yeah, now that I think about it, its not a big deal.

I mean, I remember when they were bigger and flopping all over the place!

*remembers cutscene from FFVII where the WEAPONS are released and Tifa 'falls' down...*

EDIT: It's bad enough Bartz stole Cecil's Paladin Force and Soul Eater, now he has that new airblade attack? Hax!

Tyreek
Feb 23, 2011, 09:34 PM
Not to mention he's been sparingly using Yuna's Ifrit summon lmao. As for Bartz's outfit; that's his starting class right? Freelancer?

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 09:37 PM
I was hoping he got at least one BRV -> HP physical linking attack, but it looks like Holy -> Flare is still the only one.

Split
Feb 23, 2011, 09:41 PM
The chase battles seem so much more exhilarating now that the characters can go upside down in midair and stuff.

I still think Square Enix's hack and slash games (this, Kingdom Hearts, etc.), while stylish, could benefit from a blocking system like Ninja Gaiden's or God of War, where you hold a trigger button and your character automatically faces and blocks all normal melee attacks no matter which direction they come from. The unreliable timing system doesn't make sense juxtaposed with the bombastic sword duels of the super-coordinated, physic- defying characters.

Rashiid
Feb 23, 2011, 09:46 PM
You could always go upside down in chase battles, just rare when you keep holding down to dodge the attack and end up that way. I've been upside down many times. Sure as hell fucks with your mind.

RenzokukenZ
Feb 23, 2011, 09:47 PM
Putting the Fantasy in Final Fantasy.