Flowen vs Rico the ultimate Match for all Hunters of PSO to

[Ryo_Hayasa]

Who would win in this fight?
let us take a look at are fighter

Red Ring Rico: Child of Red
she is the famed hunter of P2 everyone knows of her. she has so many weapons it scarys most hunters i myself would be force to almost run is i found her in a dark hall way
Red saber,Sword, handgun,mechguns,slicer etc etc

i mean so many weapons and there her's wow how can you beat that? plus Dark Falz(SPOILER)


even chose her as the suitable body to host on.
i know alot about Red ring she's my fav CPU character her and Elly

next up Flowen

the expirment of the Olga gene.
this guy is are new Hero we must save in Ep II
he's old but strong too strong he took on the young Olga Flow-ish sporn by himself he's seen many die his own men slaughter by the Olga proto-type-ish thing. before being consumed by Olga to create the living death we know as Olga Flow

now unfortuneately in this fight Flowen wouldn't beable to use his Dark-Type Weapons EI: Dark Flow because
A. techincal these are Olga flows Weapons and not true human FLowen weapons (how come use players can get cool nice looking Costumes like these hmmm maybe we can download them later)

So who do you think would win if these two fought and yes if i get enough post i shall make a nice lil Fan Fic based on the Final Results infact if i can get a Moderaters help an dhave this as possible a Side Poll like the current Video Game Icon Polls (GO SONIC) i will look at all the votes by next week. come on everyone lets get in on this poll!

[Auracom]

I'm a fan of Rico too, but I think Flowen would win the fight. We gotta see how this turns out http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Vitamin_D]

Um...DB, I choose you!

[TeamPhalanx]

FLOWEN taught RICO, but...

Consider that the military got beat (bad) by the creatures in the Ruins, while RRR made it all the way to Falz.

[sharkie-do]

Well i made it all the way to falz and won so maybe im the true victor...

WhIpPeE!

[IceBlink]

Rico has somewhat implied in her messages that her reputation as a hunter has been overblown. Sure, she's a damn good hunter, but not to the proportions that people see her as. Hehe.

She did get to Falz, but that was with team (who either got injured or died on their way there), and it's my suspicion that Falz let her into the garden... after all, can't break the body Falz will possess, right? o_O

[Ryo_Hayasa]

um not to start a mass fight but flowen didn't teach Rico, it was her father in the credit screen that is Terral training with the Young Rico holding the Elysion Rico was Trained by her father. and well Rico went to Ragol alone no party or anything and yes Dark Falz is a sinister guy huh. and well you can guess how much she had to prove she was the perfect body for Falz i mean
going through all the stages plus who know what all the Ult monsters ALONE just to think she's figured everything out she's posesed by something thats has been watching her the hold time! man that would put a dint in my day. flowen did have a part somewhat eventhough they all died. i'm guessing this took place sometime after Rico was captured by flow as the memories are fresh in his mind, or maybe i'm to into the story oh well whatever

[Cloud_01]

I say Flowen would win. He seems to have the upper hand.

[IceBlink]

On 2003-03-11 19:24, Ryo_Hayasa wrote:
Rico went to Ragol alone no party or anything

Oops, my bad. She did go alone. ^_^; The messages even showed that she was slowly losing it, what with her messages being the only way to leave her thoughts...

[TeamPhalanx]

Actually, FLOWEN did teach RICO. In fact, they had a very close relatioship - I suspect a better one than she had with her father.

You can get more info on this in offline Seabed and The Retired Hunter.

[EsperFlame]

Just a quick note.....all the Red Weapons are Flowens, afterall, they do spell his first name Heathcliff. You would all know this if you played through episode 2 and actually paid attention to the storyline stuff. There is nothing in the game that hints that Red Ring Rico was a student of Flowens.

NOTHING!!!

Also there's the fact that Flowen is a military soldier. Now we all know the military got their butt's handed to by dark falz, but we're talking about RRR before Dark Falz.

Now lets talk about the mechanics of the PSO game and these two.

Red Ring Rico- Level 20 Techs! Can use some rather nice weapons humar can't including Nei's Claw.

Flowen- Level 15 Techs(No Shifta/Deband)! But has alot of really nice weapons to choose from including a couple Humar Only ones.

I think Red Ring Rico would win....After all...Shifta Deband is very useful, and with her's being lvl 20, Flowen can't over power Rico's Shifta Deband.

[IceBlink]

Both sides have jellen and zalure, which effectively cancels any shifta/deband stuff...

From RRR herself...

"... There must be some cause. I'll find it. I know I'm a fool. This won't make me any richer. Perhaps that's why I'm exalted by them... Red Ring Rico, ha, ha. But I'm not really the great hunter citizens say I am. They needed a hero. And I just happened to fill that position."

It's quite funny how her scientist side and hunter side are in conflict. Hehe.

[KodiaX987]

Flowen, hands down.

I mean, not only did Rico fail in killing DF, she let her body get stolen. And afterwards, we were more or less five hundred thousand hunters to go and easily kill the bastard over and over.

Hence, Rico may be teh sexy, but she is also teh sux0r!

[NodMan]

If Rico wore all her items that you can find then i would have to say Rico because Flowen's set isnt all that great.

[TeamPhalanx]

Is that so?

DONOPH:
She (ALICIA) thought that Rico stole her father...

So.. I suppose Flowen and Rico were lovers? (lol)

[Archkyle]

I just wish i new where the author got the info...i mean i'm a pso veteran, but i'm poor and unable to access online...poor me...anyway...flowen would probably win....

[Ryo_Hayasa]

Bah excuse me seriously i guess i didn't pay the best attention to ep II i didn't check every memo and everything capsule i did in Ep I and also saw the ending credits. Flowen, Rico lovers. well i guess if your one of the last people on a planet anything can happen. *shudders*but what i don't get is.
if Rico were trained by Flowen why was she alone while fighting Falz? she went alone while Flowen was in a research lab. i mean i'd take care of my puple. of well it's not that great of a deal thanks for the heads up ^_^ *goes to check the EpII stuff for himself*

[OdinTyler]

You guys are not paying attention! You have partial clues but here's what really happened! You must look closely at BOTH storylines, playing completely through examining every little detail. Flowen himself tells you that him & his men went through the ruins first. Rico didn't hit the pillars nor encounter Darkfalz first. In addition, when someone passes through the gate after VolOpt, the pillars are reset. Didn't anyone figure out that MUUT DITTS POUMN was also the biggest TRAP in the game??? Flowen himself survived alone by running but this was when DF was just a consciousness. True, Rico went in alone but the only reason she survived was because many monsters were killed already. Keep in mind we only see this many for playing purposes. If you watch EpI Ult ending, she isn't really doing much fighting (more exploring). As we have seen from many famous hunters, their reputations are exaggerated (you know how rumors go). Speaking of which, Flowen is rumored to have trained Rico (& it DOES say that in the game). It's not confirmed but it's believed so. Confirmed is that her father did train with her, though you must understand that was long ago & both Rico & Heathcliff were on Pioneer 1 so they could've met...this is all just speculation. Also, I must point out that the red set of weapons does not belong to Flowen. If you pay attention, each wep was engraved w/1 or 2 letters as an homage to him for his reputation. He doesn't own them. Even replicas of his own sword were created in his honor. Rico is looked up to by hunters, Flowen by the military. Who would win? I am not a fan of the military in PSO but Flowen would win. OlgaFlow is a much better designed boss with 3 entities in 1 (A Darkfalz essence, the Olga AI, & Flowen himself). Darkfalz (in Ep1) is a possession. You do the math. Btw, Rico does NOT have Lv20 techs nor was she particularly good with them. Megid that always misses? Cmon! Why do you think her glasses & earrings (replicas btw) are such a hot commodity? She needed them! I will write more when I get a response from what I've said so far, but I have far more to address on this...

[OdinTyler]

I just remembered. Flowen is asking for "the savior of the red captive child." Sounds to me like he knows her or OF her. Even more so, he knows of the player's reputation for saving her in the first place...guess we are heroes, ourselves, eh? http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif

[Zeebo]

Red Ring Rico: Ep I's Child of Red

[Auracom]

Oh ya Rico and Flowen were not lovers... I don't think knew her that well either. In one of the memo's Flowen leaves in EP2 saying something along the lines of "I hope that girl is alright." Don't quote me lol I just remember something like that. It's been a few months since in beat EP2 on VH. I've gotta go through it on Ult but I'm not ready.

[TeamPhalanx]

The lovers comment was made in jest... Meaning that they were teacher and student.

For FLOWEN, there were no pillars or anything of the sort. He was around before the mutations became wide spread and had clear access to the Ruins (he didn't have to go through Forest, Caves, and Mines)

Episode I's Ultimate ending does show Rico in battle - Which was quite often. Rico does mention in Ruins how there were many monster around and how the army must have been beaten bad. After all, she couldn't have left all those tips for you if there weren't a lot of them.

I don't think anyway said that FLOWEN owns the RED weapons. I mean... everyone knows that they are connected to Red Ring Rico. The fact that they are red gives that away.

FLOWEN is just a ghost of the past, while RICO is still in her prime. RICO would win.

[OdinTyler]

On 2003-03-12 16:57, TeamPhalanx wrote:
The lovers comment was made in jest... Meaning that they were teacher and student.

For FLOWEN, there were no pillars or anything of the sort. He was around before the mutations became wide spread and had clear access to the Ruins (he didn't have to go through Forest, Caves, and Mines)

Episode I's Ultimate ending does show Rico in battle - Which was quite often. Rico does mention in Ruins how there were many monster around and how the army must have been beaten bad. After all, she couldn't have left all those tips for you if there weren't a lot of them.

I don't think anyway said that FLOWEN owns the RED weapons. I mean... everyone knows that they are connected to Red Ring Rico. The fact that they are red gives that away.

FLOWEN is just a ghost of the past, while RICO is still in her prime. RICO would win.



I must disagree with everything you've said except for one thing, it does make sense that Flowen would have a direct route to the ruins...hadn't thought of that, but you must admit he was there first. The red weapons were forged having nothing to do with her. The fact that they are red is for player consideration only: they are "special" weapons. People knew of these first, then the S-Ranks, & so on. You must understand that Sega (like many companies) does this alot where certain things happen for the player to see. For example, in Phantasy Star III, it is said that Orakians can only do (blank), Layans (blank), & so on. This took me years to understand but that was only for player consideration. What I mean to say is, a game puts certain limits on the player but it cannot be considered an across the board fact for all residents of either Pioneer 1 or 2. The only item connected to Rico is the red ring she wears (& they only associate her with it because she wears it). There was nothing "special" about it til she wore it. As for your last comment, Rico was a scientist first. As we all know, we cannot respect MOST scientists in this game for what they have done...OSTO HYLE! But in her case, we can speculate she was just your run of the mill scientist until she decided to do what the common man (or woman) could not. She chose to investigate & that's what drew attention to her...that she wouldn't just keep quiet. I respect that, I do. However, Flowen had an established military record that could be proven. Obviously we know this battle could never happen but in all ways...he would win...now are we asking as human vs human or Darkfalz vs OlgaFlow? Olga would wipe the floor with Falz, no contest...& drag his carcass up & down the damn elevator shaft of the Seabed facility... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[TeamPhalanx]

Well, considering that the end credits show her with RED weapons... I'm inclined to believe that they are related to her.

Rico was a scientist, but she was also a HUnter. Also, it's BERNIE that made such comments about FLOWEN. In addition, Dark Falz chose RRR, not FLOWEN, to take over.

I believe the poll is in reference to humans. But, to digress, Dark Falz would beat Olga Flow. It has more moves at its disposal, one additional form, and can steal souls.

[OdinTyler]

On 2003-03-12 17:32, TeamPhalanx wrote:
Well, considering that the end credits show her with RED weapons... I'm inclined to believe that they are related to her.

Rico was a scientist, but she was also a HUnter. Also, it's BERNIE that made such comments about FLOWEN. In addition, Dark Falz chose RRR, not FLOWEN, to take over.

I believe the poll is in reference to humans. But, to digress, Dark Falz would beat Olga Flow. It has more moves at its disposal, one additional form, and can steal souls.


Ok your argument has about a big a hole as the storyline for all the previous Phantasy Stars. How can she have red weapons each engraved with letters of Flowen's name if she never met the guy? You're contradicting yourself! I've told you all...the only reason why red is associated with Rico is because of her damn ring. The ring itself was not special until she wore it. True you have to be of a higher level to equip it but because it stood out whereas she wears mostly light colors (white?), that's why the name stuck. You're going by the limitations of the game & that does NOT apply to NPC's...you can't apply such rules to non-player characters. Rico was not a hunter, she was a scientist...she says so, herself. In addition, hunter (as we all know) is a general term for anyone who works for the Hunter's Guild (which she does NOT). This automatically negates her as being a hunter. The fact that she can use hunter weapons is irrelevant. She is an NPC & rules that apply for players (real people) such as you & I, cannot be applied to her. If you want, call her a HUmarl (I know they dont exist, nevermind, doesn't matter). Explain this: Great Sword Zoke has 3 swords, which he uses with his...*cough* skill! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_smile.gif Anyway, if you look at him, he's clearly a RAmar, but, a player created RAmar can't use all 3 of those weapons. Proof that you can't put game limitations on an NPC! His ass got killed anyway...some legendary hero! http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif Another thing you didn't notice...Darkfalz didn't choose Rico over Flowen, you keep forgetting that Flowen was on Ragol before Rico was. You must remember his messages that he was stuck in the lab going through his own change. He saw the whole thing where Rico was attacked & possessed. DF chose her cause there was no one else around (so it was default). Flowen encountered IT (as he calls it) but he means DF. As an essence, it attacked him & became one with his body. Hyle, loving this, implanted the Olga AI (which too was infected with Darkfalz essence/Dark creature matter) & thus, Flowen began his transformation. He had this evil in him longer, has more entities within him, & therefore, has potentially greater power. Darkfalz does not have more moves at it's disposal. I've seen what they can both do & Olga has more. If you're referring to Olga's obvious patterns, I can understand where you're coming from. In regard to number of forms, Darkfalz technically only has 2. The first part is a carriage of sorts (look at him & you will see him riding a "horse") which is what you attack so technically, you're not attacking him...yet. Then, the next "form" is DF merged with Rico's body (to think I didn't notice this until a couple of days ago) but that small body within is Rico fighting (think of Freddy Krueger & you know what I mean). The ending (as I've now come to believe) is pure evil...Darkfalz alone. With Flowen, he technically only has 1 form (it just reassembles itself) & he just won't die (it seems). Also, how can you say OlgaFlow can't steal souls? Darkfalz can't do that...& before you say anything, you must understand metaphysics. Darkfalz is stealing from your aura (cosmic energy). He's taking OF your soul, but not the soul itself. You'd drop dead if he did that. Olgaflow switches you with Flowen. So when you look like Flowen, his spirit is in your body (I tell ya, it looks funny as hell, him running like a FOmarl). Anyway, with him in your body, YOU are inside OlgaFlow. That's why you keep switching back & forth. You two are a team that must take on Olga itself, to free Flowen. THAT is how tough Olga is...it takes two baby...it takes two... http://www.pso-world.com/psoworld/images/phpbb/icons/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif

[Auracom]

I just beat normal with one of my newer character who is... lv67 didnt take very long I used 5 dimates in total. But Olga Flow, killed me twice. I was like, wtf??? With my first character I killed Olga easily from Norm-VH. I'm confused now... I though Falz was more difficult to beat, and Flow was easy. Now it's the other way around... Flow is much more difficult to me now. Or maybe today wasn't my day....

[OdinTyler]

On 2003-03-12 18:45, Auracom wrote:
I just beat normal with one of my newer character who is... lv67 didnt take very long I used 5 dimates in total. But Olga Flow, killed me twice. I was like, wtf??? With my first character I killed Olga easily from Norm-VH. I'm confused now... I though Falz was more difficult to beat, and Flow was easy. Now it's the other way around... Flow is much more difficult to me now. Or maybe today wasn't my day....



See? This is what I'm talking about! Once you get past DF's first two forms, the last is the easiest. Why? True it is tough but if you come prepared (healing items, slot items), then it's more of an endurance match than anything. With Olgaflow, you have to keep on your toes...