Proof WT doesnt suck

[w@rtech nation]

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o208/DescantOne/WTNation.jpg good job dizzy.

[Cloudstrife xx]

Nice tv but btw fm's are pulling low 8mins and gms are doing 8s too mf is doing 8-9 if hear right tell him to pull a 9 or low 10 then ppl might take abit more notice.

[w@rtech nation]

Nice tv but btw fm's are pulling low 8mins and gms are doing 8s too mf is doing 8-9 if hear right tell him to pull a 9 or low 10 then ppl might take abit more notice.

he is a beast tho. an suv cuts mins off

[Aantdizzy]

Nice tv but btw fm's are pulling low 8mins and gms are doing 8s too mf is doing 8-9 if hear right tell him to pull a 9 or low 10 then ppl might take abit more notice.

Thanks on the TV, but As I see it these times by the GM and FM are done on cast!! The suv is the only thing that keeps me from not getting in the low 9 or 10. Fact is the best time so far are on cast. Someone post a time with another race other than cast. When I get that up-date with the tp boost and pa level I will get under 10. This is with a human wartecher.

[w@rtech nation]

Are you clueless as to what times other classes put up? You must be as that time was easy obtainable before GAC by other classes.

i am pointing this out because dizzy is a beast. suv will cut this time down easy with suv.

[Aantdizzy]

Are you clueless as to what times other classes put up? You must be as that time was easy obtainable before GAC by other classes.

Only if you are a cast. In speedruns cast will always get the better times. Even it out do a speed run without the suv and post your time.

[Cloudstrife xx]

he is a beast tho. an suv cuts mins off

Miyfee did 8mins at seed express s2 as a male beast fighmaster so....no

[gordon/alpha999]

A couple of MF's did it in 9 minutes. I'm like 50-40 seconds off from getting 9 minutes. ( I blame bal soza's)

[w@rtech nation]

Miyfee did 8mins at seed express s2 as a male beast fighmaster so....no

beast fighmaster is an exception to the rule. suv is huge in this run.

[Noyo]

Listen, you all saying you done this with your fighmaster masterforce and gunmaster, they are FASTER then wartechers lol, if you didnt have that speed you wouldnt be of able to do that time, so yea just pointing out. Wartecher is a good class 'nuff said.

[w@rtech nation]

Like I said above people were getting 11min runs as beasts before GAC.

apparently u still dont know who i am. i am on clouds leaderboard. i am well aware of what top times are. 3 mins from a top time as beast WT is respectable considering the grom burst and spada does so much work in there. i kno tho WT still suck

[gordon/alpha999]

Fighgunner could pull off a good time i think.

[Aantdizzy]

Not true you really need to get your facts straight.

So your telling me that with the same gear cast and beast would do the same time? Please son, you need to get your facts straight.

[milranduil]

Did people forget that MF wipes the floor in there...? And it has no SUV...

[Noyo]

Did people forget that MF wipes the floor in there...? And it has no SUV...

You cast faster rite? 'Nuff said.

[milranduil]

Only as AF lolz. Slower as any other class.

[Aantdizzy]

Did people forget that MF wipes the floor in there...? And it has no SUV...

They also are use to wipe the floor!!!

[w@rtech nation]

i made a mistake. dizzy was not a beast. he in fact was a human.

[Aantdizzy]

Fighgunner could pull off a good time i think.

Dont think, do it. All I hear is Master class this Master class that!! I want other classes to standout!!!

[gordon/alpha999]

i made a mistake. dizzy was not a beast. he in fact was a human.

What a twist!


Dont think, do it. All I hear is Master class this Master class that!! I want other classes to standout!!!
I don't play FG anymore :<. i stopped on March 31 2010. However im sure theres a video of JP Fighgunner's TA on youtube somewhere.

[w@rtech nation]

What a twist!

i kno right. a cast with suv is faster

[milranduil]

They also are use to wipe the floor!!!

Yeah wipe your floor since you're a slug comparably lol!

To note, apparently you've missed the hallapalooza. AF owns master classes up the rear on most missions.

[Aantdizzy]

What a twist!.

Human are making a comeback!!




I don't play FG anymore :<. i stopped on March 31 2010. However im sure theres a video of JP Fighgunner's TA on youtube somewhere.

Masterclasses are dominating the game, even the new players that get on are all gearing up for the masterclasses i hate this mind set people have in playing these three classes. Expand your mind people.

[Aantdizzy]

Yeah wipe your floor since you're a slug comparably lol!

I'm not that far off from you, so yea you got me for now but the gap is getting smaller and smaller. And I know you can't beat me on every map.

[Midori Oku]

A couple of MF's did it in 9 minutes. I'm like 50-40 seconds off from getting 9 minutes. ( I blame bal soza's)

*cough* 8min! :)

Anyways, can we see some times on other missions? How about:

-White Beast S2
-Desert Goliath S3
-Lightning Beast S2
-Sakura Blast S3
-Seed Awakened S3
-Stolen Weapon S3
-Electronic Brain S2
-Duel Sentinel S3
-Duel in the Ruins S3
-Flowery Pursuit S3
-Bladed Legacy S3
-Forest Infiltration S3

Showing the time on one mission is not enough to convince me if it is good or not. Not saying anything bad the time is better than I thought it would be, but I would like to see other times.

[gordon/alpha999]

Y no Forest Infitration, that mission is fun to TA.

[Midori Oku]

Y no Forest Infitration, that mission is fun to TA.

It's added.

[Aantdizzy]

*cough* 8min! :)

Anyways, can we see some times on other missions? How about:

-White Beast S2
-Desert Goliath S3
-Lightning Beast S2
-Sakura Blast S3
-Seed Awakened S3
-Stolen Weapon S3
-Electronic Brain S2
-Duel Sentinel S3
-Duel in the Ruins S3
-Flowery Pursuit S3
-Bladed Legacy S3

Showing the time on one mission is not enough to convince me if it is good or not. Not saying anything bad the time is better than I thought it would be, but I would like to see other times.

lol took you long enough to post something!!! So your telling me that you run 8 min every run? not possible. I know for a fact!!! This game is gear towards any classes that has a speed boost do Citadel of Sand and give me your time.

[THLPSC]

Y no Forest Infitration, that mission is fun to TA.

WT can actually get a pretty good time on this mission. Though it obviously will not be the best time but still it can get a good time.

lol took you long enough to post something!!! So your telling me that you run 8 min every run? not possible. I know for a fact!!! This game is gear towards any classes that has a speed boost do Citadel of Sand and give me your time.

He was talking about Seed Express I am pretty sure.

[Dragwind]

lol took you long enough to post something!!! So your telling me that you run 8 min every run? not possible. I know for a fact!!! This game is gear towards any classes that has a speed boost do Citadel of Sand and give me your time.

Forums aren't live chat, the time between posts means nothing.

All TAers know that not every run "takes 8 minutes." I'm pretty sure he didn't say any of these things. Some classes are better at certain missions than others. It's not like a MF can dominate every map for example. There are enemy resistances and formations to account for, of course.

[Aantdizzy]

He was talking about Seed Express I am pretty sure.

Yea i know what he was talking about, I want to see him play a mission outside of the box, and give me your death toll as well.

[Crysteon]

I agree: nice TV D:

But that's enough proof to convince WT haters about that class being good, sadly.

[w@rtech nation]

Y no Forest Infitration, that mission is fun to TA.

that mission is a joke. i ran a 10 as a ranger in a couple tries without shijin. prob pull a 7

[Midori Oku]

lol took you long enough to post something!!! So your telling me that you run 8 min every run? not possible. I know for a fact!!! This game is gear towards any classes that has a speed boost do Citadel of Sand and give me your time.

Did I say I get 8min on every run? No I did not. I was talking to gordon/alpha999 when he was talking about Seed Express and Masterforces doing it in 9min. Sure, Citadel of Sand is a horrible mission for MF and you may do that mission faster than me, but that is one mission. Go do some of these missions and prove WT is good.


I'm not that far off from you, so yea you got me for now but the gap is getting smaller and smaller. And I know you can't beat me on every map.
Can you name a mission you would be able to touch his Acrofighter times in and then prove it? I'm sure he would be able to post up a video to prove you wrong.

[Aantdizzy]

I will test my skills on these other mission, you run Citadel of Sand for me. As far a acrofighter goes, who is this acrofighter? where are his times?

[w@rtech nation]

u cant compare the 360 server to jp server. his af has the godly assault crush. 360 doesnt have that so a race would be pointless

[Midori Oku]

I will test my skills on these other mission, you run Citadel of Sand for me. As far a acrofighter goes, who is this acrofighter? where are his times?

You said you would be able to beat Bobby's AF times in some missions. He can post up pictures/video if he needs, but I don't know if you are aware but he is on JP. lol

[w@rtech nation]

on the JP server WT vs AF comes down to is AF's 10 Assault Crush to WT's 9. As far as i know AF only has a 10% speed boast with 2 handed weps. I havent seen a fully gasD WT but my questions about them is can dus skag be that group attack? can anga grudda take out some monsters faster than assault crush? AF right now are at their peak. I dont think WT is too far from them tho.

[Midori Oku]

u cant compare the 360 server to jp server. his af has the godly assault crush. 360 doesnt have that so a race would be pointless

Thats what he said, or at least the way I took it. I could see a WT on JP not being too far behind cause of it but they would still be slower.

[mAsTeR OuTi]

great job dizzy! nice to see that a WT can do it if ya know how to play!


kepp it up!

[Aantdizzy]

great job dizzy! nice to see that a WT can do it if ya know how to play!


kepp it up!

Thanks a lot!!!!!

[Ellrick C-63]

Did you use any techs for the mission? (If you did which ones and when)
Im actually impressed someone is actually trying to TA as WT. Ive always wanted to see, but Id really like to see a JP WT with tornado break/assault crush in their pallete.

[milranduil]

I'm not that far off from you, so yea you got me for now but the gap is getting smaller and smaller. And I know you can't beat me on every map.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm yes I can rofl.

[gordon/alpha999]

So much lulz to go around

[w@rtech nation]

Did you use any techs for the mission? (If you did which ones and when)
Im actually impressed someone is actually trying to TA as WT. Ive always wanted to see, but Id really like to see a JP WT with tornado break/assault crush in their pallete.

when im done gasN WT on JP i will TA

[Aantdizzy]

Did you use any techs for the mission? (If you did which ones and when)
Im actually impressed someone is actually trying to TA as WT. Ive always wanted to see, but Id really like to see a JP WT with tornado break/assault crush in their pallete.

Yes i use techs only on motherbrain arms, diga with granahodora 10/10 with a range bot 48% ground that shots four shots(Shag Hodogg). Works great.

I wish I was on the JP servers running on WT, whips, twin claws, and knuckles @ 50, with the axe would speed my time up alot.

[Aantdizzy]

Ummmmmmmmmmmmm yes I can rofl.

Do Citadel of Sand then.

[gordon/alpha999]

Citadel is not as hard as.........MAG S2!! D:

[Aantdizzy]

Citadel is not as hard as.........MAG S2!! D:

That's true but that run is long as hell!!! lol!!!

[milranduil]

Do Citadel of Sand then.

Barkin' up the wrong tree my friend!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/psu20110713_124927_000.jpg

[Midori Oku]

That's true but that run is long as hell!!! lol!!!

You should try it. I can't remember what I got the first time I did it solo. It was in the high 20's though. I am sure I can do it better now cause of the Shijin combo and the fact we only had the 2nd GAS wave at the time.

[Aantdizzy]

Barkin' up the wrong tree my friend!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/psu20110713_124927_000.jpg



Are you on the Jp server?, and a cast. lol!!!! You are funny, come to the 360 and play the way we play.

[THLPSC]

Do Citadel of Sand then.

I still have yet to see you post your time in that mission.

[Aantdizzy]

You should try it. I can't remember what I got the first time I did it solo. It was in the high 20's though. I am sure I can do it better now cause of the Shijin combo and the fact we only had the 2nd GAS wave at the time.

I might have to do this then.

[milranduil]

Are you on the Jp server?, and a cast. lol!!!! You are funny, come to the 360 and play the way we play.

Why would I want to TA with an inferior race? lol!!!!

Also, I should note I got 12min as GM at Lv 160 cap WAY back when the mission was released.

EDIT: I also should mention I got 11min SE as FM at 150 cap...I see you are finally catching up with times from years ago (10min as FM was possible back then also lolz).

[THLPSC]

Why would I want to TA with an inferior race? lol!!!!

Because you need to play outside the box bro. /sarcasm

[w@rtech nation]

Why would I want to TA with an inferior race? lol!!!!

Also, I should note I got 12min as GM at Lv 160 cap WAY back when the mission was released.

EDIT: I also should mention I got 11min SE as FM at 150 cap...I see you are finally catching up with times from years ago (10min as FM was possible back then also lolz).

u should mention u were using the barrier glitch ;-)

[Aantdizzy]

Why would I want to TA with an inferior race? lol!!!!

Also, I should note I got 12min as GM at Lv 160 cap WAY back when the mission was released.

EDIT: I also should mention I got 11min SE as FM at 150 cap...I see you are finally catching up with times from years ago (10min as FM was possible back then also lolz).

So why are you even posting here then?, be gone hater. Like I said before most speed runs are done on Cast and(classes with speed boost) the suv is the key, take that away and you are no better than a human. The race is what separates the times on psu, if you have the same gear, and class the cast will win except on force classes.

[milranduil]

u should mention u were using the barrier glitch ;-)

Likely, however if I REALLY wanted to, I could spam until I have a run where she never uses her barrier prior to death ultimately resulting in a slightly BETTER time without no "glitching". Oy you people are impossible lol. Why should I note utilize the sit function? Give me one good reason.


So why are you even posting here then?, be gone hater. Like I said before most speed runs are done on Cast and(classes with speed boost) the suv is the key, take that away and you are no better than a human. The race is what separates the times on psu, if you have the same gear, and class the cast will win except on force classes.

Why are you posting that WT doesn't suck then? What's the point of using a sub-par class with a sub-par race and trying to show it off that it 'comes close' to TA times and that the gaps are closing (when in fact they aren't lolz). Ares Espada is one of the most powerful things in the game when utilized correctly. Why should I deny myself of that ability and play a lolhuman instead? This is of course speaking without the idea of Mirage Blasts, which I am preparing myself for. My Human has been in the making for a while ;)

I should note that the ATP deficit in humans is a potential advantage to Casts where that ~200 ATP can be crucial to reduce the number of hits. Also Cast is superior with less EVP=less blocking=more PA in X time.


beast fighmaster is an exception to the rule. suv is huge in this run.

This is the most flawed logic I have seen in a long time lolz. Beast is an exception to the rule; SUV matters! lolwut

[Midori Oku]

Aantdizzy what is your time in Citadel of Sand?

[milranduil]

Yes I am curious also!

[w@rtech nation]

glitching is glitching. if using ur glitch counts than i kno a guy who did a 6 min seed as a lv 150. he gots all master classes beat. the reason not to use glitches is because its not honest. this game is so easy that u dont need to glitch

[Midori Oku]

Yes I am curious also!

I just did one (not sure what map is good for MF yet) run, but I wanna see a picture of his time before I post mine. lol

[milranduil]

The different layouts are pretty equivalent, so I'd say one with Kog Nadds and Bafal Braggas (and hopefully Zampavas in b3).

To w@rtech nation: MGG is not glitching. It's cheating.

[w@rtech nation]

This is the most flawed logic I have seen in a long time lolz. Beast is an exception to the rule; SUV matters! lolwut

if you read it right i said beast fighmaster.

[Midori Oku]

The different layouts are pretty equivalent, so I'd say one with Kog Nadds and Bafal Braggas (and hopefully Zampavas in b3).

To w@rtech nation: MGG is not glitching. It's cheating.

Can you do a run on MF really fast and PM me your time?

[w@rtech nation]

The different layouts are pretty equivalent, so I'd say one with Kog Nadds and Bafal Braggas (and hopefully Zampavas in b3).

To w@rtech nation: MGG is not glitching. It's cheating.

he wasnt using a machinegun;-)

[w@rtech nation]

glitching is cheating

[THLPSC]

Yes I am curious also!


Aantdizzy what is your time in Citadel of Sand?

Guessing he is not going to post it.

[milranduil]

Can you do a run on MF really fast and PM me your time?

With no Ruts? :( Ok I'll try lol Evil Curst should help.


if you read it right i said beast fighmaster.

Idc what class, saying anything non-SUV related is an exception, then that SUV matters is an oxymoron, definitively in fact.


he wasnt using a machinegun;-)

It's not my job to know about various glitches, so I don't care what he used lol. If it's increasing your DPS beyond what it should be by normal game mechanics, then it's cheating.

[milranduil]

glitching is cheating

None of us on PC had a problem with sitting at Mother Brain. We knew the difference between an acceptable "glitch" and a game breaking one ;)

[w@rtech nation]

Idc what class, saying anything non-SUV related is an exception, then that SUV matters is an oxymoron, definitively in fact.



It's not my job to know about various glitches, so I don't care what he used lol. If it's increasing your DPS beyond what it should be by normal game mechanics, then it's cheating.

nice personal attack. you dont care what class the beast is? the same thing could be said of you. Jabroga and rabaddo was a very nice combo til zeros starting hitting. at the time it was on par with suv. but the zeros messed that up. increasing ur dps by sitting under a barrier when u shouldnt be able to is cheating. congrats you just admitted ur a cheater.

[w@rtech nation]

None of us on PC had a problem with sitting at Mother Brain. We knew the difference between an acceptable "glitch" and a game breaking one ;)

u cant say its ok to do one glitch and not any others. you ether cheat full throttle or u log off. its that simple

[milranduil]

I didn't write the definition of oxymoron, so it doesn't care what class the beast is. My opinion on the matter does in fact NOT matter.

That's like saying J-walking vs. murdering are the same thing. They're both crimes. Guess I should start knocking people off my hit list if they're the same!

[Midori Oku]

Masterforce time?!?!?!?!? :D

[milranduil]

I did 2 runs, with the spawns I listed actually, except Svaltus b3. 12min both times :(

[w@rtech nation]

I didn't write the definition of oxymoron, so it doesn't care what class the beast is. My opinion on the matter does in fact NOT matter.

That's like saying J-walking vs. murdering are the same thing. They're both crimes. Guess I should start knocking people off my hit list if they're the same!

whatever makes you sleep at night sweetheart

[milranduil]

You're the one who's got a problem, not me lolz. I sleep just fine at night thanks very much.

[Midori Oku]

I did 2 runs, with the spawns I listed actually, except Svaltus b3. 12min both times :(

I am gonna wait until I can get a Sorcerer rod and then go back. Hopefully we get the S2 rares in a few weeks.

[milranduil]

How did you do? Can PM me results if you'd like.

[Omega-z]

This is Silly why argue about it anyway.:nono:

[Crysteon]

This is Silly why argue about it anyway.:nono:

It's fun to read. Let them kill between each other, lol.

[dias_flac_0g]

Lulz...

Look at all these losers bickering about such a silly topic xD

Just play whatever class you want. Stop worrying about who has the biggest PSU dick.

Nothing more pathetic than a bunch of little girls whining about who has the best times on a silly ass mission xDDD

[milranduil]

It's okay, not everyone can be as efficient as you when it comes to fun! Because that's all that matters even if you suck!

[bloodflowers]

I'd have to agree with w@rtech nation, as much as it pains me to do so.

A glitch is a glitch when it comes to TA. The sitting glitch is no more acceptable than the shotgun one, or the MGG. That barrier attack is designed to push you down the ramp, the sitting glitch subverts the normal game mechanics to increase DPS.

[HappyPenguin]

Sorry too burst your bubble but Wartecher has very bad ATP he is a beast correct? Beast have very bad TP also beast have bad Acc. Why do you use such a bad class for beast? And for any race Wartecher is a bad class i dont wanna hear "BUT I DONT USE TECHS" look your a 180 and i respect you and i look forward too playing with you as long as your happy with your Wartecher thats all that matters right

[Selphea]

Sorry too burst your bubble but Wartecher has very bad ATP he is a beast correct? Beast have very bad TP also beast have bad Acc. Why do you use such a bad class for beast? And for any race Wartecher is a bad class i dont wanna hear "BUT I DONT USE TECHS" look your a 180 and i respect you and i look forward too playing with you as long as your happy with your Wartecher thats all that matters right

How bad is "very bad"? On JP, a Human WT 20 effectively has a 168% ATP mod when their 5% racial boost is counted in. That's the same ATP mod an FM gets.

[Dragwind]

You know what would make sense? TAers who would compete within their class bracket for times, instead of competing against other classes.

These arguments are years old already, we know that some classes are simply better than others for some to most missions in the game. It would be more interesting, and make more sense, to see WT TAers compete against WT TAers and leave the "but FM does it better" arguments out of the picture, and let the FMs challenge the FMs for instance.

To grind for drops is a different story if you have the gear/PAs available to switch classes and your concern is shaving off as much time on that hunt, then yes, you'd want to pick a top tier class catered for that misison.

[Noyo]

Sorry too burst your bubble but Wartecher has very bad ATP he is a beast correct? Beast have very bad TP also beast have bad Acc. Why do you use such a bad class for beast? And for any race Wartecher is a bad class i dont wanna hear "BUT I DONT USE TECHS" look your a 180 and i respect you and i look forward too playing with you as long as your happy with your Wartecher thats all that matters right


HE is a HUman Wartecher LOL, ya'll saying he a beast he is HUMAN.

Anyway wartecher > Masterforce lol


Defence is my bliss<3


But I'm not hating on masterforce I just like wartecher better.

[Aantdizzy]

Guessing he is not going to post it.

Will run it later today, and post time. Sorry but I still have other things in my life to do.

[BIG OLAF]

Anyway wartecher > Masterforce lol

What.

[gordon/alpha999]

I thought the same, but he did say he preferred it over MF.

[darkante]

You know what would make sense? TAers who would compete within their class bracket for times, instead of competing against other classes.

These arguments are years old already, we know that some classes are simply better than others for some to most missions in the game. It would be more interesting, and make more sense, to see WT TAers compete against WT TAers and leave the "but FM does it better" arguments out of the picture, and let the FMs challenge the FMs for instance.

To grind for drops is a different story if you have the gear/PAs available to switch classes and your concern is shaving off as much time on that hunt, then yes, you'd want to pick a top tier class catered for that misison.

I agree on this.

[Omega-z]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragwind View Post
You know what would make sense? TAers who would compete within their class bracket for times, instead of competing against other classes.

These arguments are years old already, we know that some classes are simply better than others for some to most missions in the game. It would be more interesting, and make more sense, to see WT TAers compete against WT TAers and leave the "but FM does it better" arguments out of the picture, and let the FMs challenge the FMs for instance.

To grind for drops is a different story if you have the gear/PAs available to switch classes and your concern is shaving off as much time on that hunt, then yes, you'd want to pick a top tier class catered for that misison.



Dude your a Genius, I love this Idea.:):rappy:

[Midori Oku]

Will run it later today, and post time. Sorry but I still have other things in my life to do.

Post you picture and I will post mine! :)

[-Hitman-]

HE is a HUman Wartecher LOL, ya'll saying he a beast he is HUMAN.

Anyway wartecher > Masterforce lol


Defence is my bliss<3


But I'm not hating on masterforce I just like wartecher better.

Can I have some of whatever drugs you're on that makes you think this is anywhere near the truth?

[Noyo]

Can I have some of whatever drugs you're on that makes you think this is anywhere near the truth?

It's called being a 'old PSU player drug'' I played Wartecher when there werent any ''masterclasses'' LOL I played it for 1.5 years so yea , I also played fortefighter... Acotecher and foretecher, u all got it easy lol seriously, back in the day it was solid no masterclasses now all these losers are saying that masterclasses came out first please it didnt LOL

[-Hitman-]

Who said masters came out first? I've played every single class and hands down WT was the worst. Everyone on this game has it easy. Besides isn't the real point of the game to get drops/complete missions? Why would you choose to do this slower when there are classes that even with mediocre gear, will run it quicker then you?

[Selphea]

My character solos faster as WT than as AT =x But I'm levelling AF now and my AF's times are slowly catching up to WT's

[Darki]

Who said masters came out first? I've played every single class and hands down WT was the worst. Everyone on this game has it easy. Besides isn't the real point of the game to get drops/complete missions? Why would you choose to do this slower when there are classes that even with mediocre gear, will run it quicker then you?

It's call "personal tastes". I prefer 20000000000000 million times over to play slowly with a WT using like 10 different weapons and having all my 36 PA spots covered and used, than playing an AF with only a pallette of 6 Dil Edges, Assault Crush and a claw with the new PA for movement.

I mean, I'm the first one that will tell you "good job" for clearing a mission in half the time than me doing that, but I'm sorry, I don't play for that.

And a game that allows that sort of gameplay is, sadly, very imbalanced and bad-developed.

[milranduil]

It's called being a 'old PSU player drug'' I played Wartecher when there werent any ''masterclasses'' LOL I played it for 1.5 years so yea , I also played fortefighter... Acotecher and foretecher, u all got it easy lol seriously, back in the day it was solid no masterclasses now all these losers are saying that masterclasses came out first please it didnt LOL

I've been playing since day 1, and you don't see me making irrational, ignorant statements about how Warsuck- I mean Wartecher is better than Masterforce. fT owned WT then, and MF owns it now.

[-Hitman-]

It's call "personal tastes". I prefer 20000000000000 million times over to play slowly with a WT using like 10 different weapons and having all my 36 PA spots covered and used, than playing an AF with only a pallette of 6 Dil Edges, Assault Crush and a claw with the new PA for movement.

I mean, I'm the first one that will tell you "good job" for clearing a mission in half the time than me doing that, but I'm sorry, I don't play for that.

And a game that allows that sort of gameplay is, sadly, very imbalanced and bad-developed.

When someone's "personal tastes" are to play an inferior class (damage output/mission speed wise) they shouldn't go around saying it's better then a class that it will never be better then. Also I can easily use 36 PAs with the 4 weps I have as GM or MF or go GT or AT and still actually be useful.

[THLPSC]

When someone's "personal tastes" are to play an inferior class (damage output/mission speed wise) they shouldn't go around saying it's better then a class that it will never be better then. Also I can easily use 36 PAs with the 4 weps I have as GM or MF or go GT or AT and still actually be useful.

WT is better than MF and GT and AT on JP where he plays.

[Midori Oku]

WT is better than MF and GT and AT on JP where he plays.

WT is not better than MF on JP. lol

[THLPSC]

WT is not better than MF on JP. lol
Considering WT was matching MF times on JP in Rumbling Ruins. Its quite funny as you think you know but you don't.

[-Hitman-]

Considering WT was matching MF times on JP in Rumbling Ruins. Its quite funny as you think you know but you don't.

That's one mission. And idk about JP I was just referring to 360 servers.

[THLPSC]

That's one mission. And idk about JP I was just referring to 360 servers.

But the person who you were typing to plays on JP. Also, as for other missions I know two people that I can get to get some times on WT I will post them when I can get a hold of them as its 6:50am where they are.

[milranduil]

Considering WT was matching MF times on JP in Rumbling Ruins. Its quite funny as you think you know but you don't.

WT got 6min at Rumbling Ruins?

[Cloudstrife xx]

WT got 6min at Rumbling Ruins?

Sadly i must admit i saw that pic of a wt doing 6mins on the uploader....

[unicorn]

Anything with assault crush is broken tbh.

[str898mustang]

WT got 6min at Rumbling Ruins?

yep 10char

[Noyo]

I've been playing since day 1, and you don't see me making irrational, ignorant statements about how Warsuck- I mean Wartecher is better than Masterforce. fT owned WT then, and MF owns it now.

You're making igorant comments about wartecher it's what I think lol, I like both classes :P
But i hate it when people think masterclasses were here forever when they werent lol.. I rolled Acotecher and foretecher on my newman and wartecher on my human :p back in the day

[milranduil]

yep 10char

Huh who'da thunk! AF got 6 quite easily also with the right spawns.


You're making igorant comments about wartecher it's what I think lol, I like both classes :P
But i hate it when people think masterclasses were here forever when they werent lol.. I rolled Acotecher and foretecher on my newman and wartecher on my human :p back in the day

I hate when people think Acro classes were here forever when they weren't lolz.

The REAL back in the day was when you had fT parties with a fF (for tech resistant enemies) and a fG (for SEs). Seabed days \o/

[Darki]

When someone's "personal tastes" are to play an inferior class (damage output/mission speed wise) they shouldn't go around saying it's better then a class that it will never be better then. Also I can easily use 36 PAs with the 4 weps I have as GM or MF or go GT or AT and still actually be useful.

I my case, I never EVER said anything about WT being better than other classes, vut as I've said in the other WT thread, I'll repeat myself.

What is a "better" class? If you're talking about TAs, of course WT is "inferior". But what else?

For me a class that can play with 18~19 different weapon types is WAY BETTER than a class that can play only with 3~4. Be it in JP and in 360, I'll say it anytime, anywhere. In that simple matter, they're "inferior" to WT, FOR ME.

For me all those AT freaks play with a pallette of 5 Twin Dil Edges and Assault Crush on all of them (and thanks for the new update they use a single claw for Shusou Retsuzan-ga movement, if not, they'd go with the full element rainbow) is BORING as fucking hell. So, even when I can admit that they are "better" at doing TAs and I respect them for making the effort to get the best weapons, levelling their PAs, getting GAS accordingly etc; for me they're "worse" than how I play, plain and simple. If I preferred doing TAs with an AF with a single weapon-PA combo all the day, I wouldn't play a WT with like 8 different weapons in my pallette. Duh.

Instead of thinking like an elitist, just accept the simple fact that "best" and "worst" is actually subjective, WT might be "the worst" at doing TAs (and at least in JP, it isn't), but anybody can say that WT is much better than other classes due to PA aviability, for example, or "fun". Those things are not objective facts.

[milranduil]

The same exact thing can be said to you: people who complete missions as efficiently as quickly as they can is FUN to them where as seeing how many weapons and PAs you can get on your palette is not. It goes both ways. Also, AF has a great deal of PA availability if you didn't notice.

Knuckles - 4
Twin Sabers - 5
Twin Claws - 4
Twin Daggers - 4
Sabers - 4
Daggers - 3
Claws - 4
Slicers - 2

If 30 skills alone isn't enough for you, on 8 different weapons no matter, I don't know what is. Sure WT has 46 skills, but let's be honest, can you possibly find a use for all 46? No, of course not. I doubt you'd be able to find a solid, plausible use for 20 frankly.

[Crysteon]

For me a class that all those AF freaks play with a pallette of 5 Twin Dil Edges and Assault Crush on all of them (and thanks for the new update they use a single claw for Shusou Retsuzan-ga movement, if not, they'd go with the full element rainbow) is BORING as fucking hell. So, even when I can admit that they are "better" at doing TAs and I respect them for making the effort to get the best weapons, levelling their PAs, getting GAS accordingly etc; for me they're "worse" than how I play, plain and simple. If I preferred doing TAs with an AF with a single weapon-PA combo all the day, I wouldn't play a WT with like 8 different weapons in my pallette. Duh.


Fixed, and.....

I gotta admit AF has become so dull since AC was overpowered, and much worse when that stupid claw PA was released. I've been trying to make AF my best type for more than a year, and it's truly disturbing seeing random people just getting a set of Twin Dil Edges (of course grinded to +10, because they have an interesting urge for doing max damage and to be better than you, lol) and a pair of claws to travel...when the experienced one had to work his/her ass to have top gears for a ludicrous amount of time (in my case I use Slicers, Twin Sabers, Knuckles, Sabers, RCSMs, Twin Handguns, and Twin Daggers....and most of them are +10 and 40%+).

Wait, and there is more. The same people dare to imply you dont know how to play the type because you dont follow their strategies, and they also barrage you with meaningless PMs about how to play your type ( I do accept strategies from others, but I cant stand others saying that their strategies are better and holier than mine just because they feel like it and lack the proofs to demonstrate it). Of course, they also posts videos to teach us how to use PAs, because they suppose the rest of us lack a brain to notice some PAs work better than others in some cases.

Isnt it sad? I'm not against TAers (I actually respect Bobby for doing it), but I'm against people who try to tell others (even me) they are wrong on how they apply strategies. AC may be good, but it's not the panacea for every case in this game.

[Darki]

The same exact thing can be said to you: people who complete missions as efficiently as quickly as they can is FUN to them where as seeing how many weapons and PAs you can get on your palette is not. It goes both ways. Also, AF has a great deal of PA availability if you didn't notice.

Knuckles - 4
Twin Sabers - 5
Twin Claws - 4
Twin Daggers - 4
Sabers - 4
Daggers - 3
Claws - 4
Slicers - 2

If 30 skills alone isn't enough for you, on 8 different weapons no matter, I don't know what is. Sure WT has 46 skills, but let's be honest, can you possibly find a use for all 46? No, of course not. I doubt you'd be able to find a solid, plausible use for 20 frankly.

And what is aviability when people plays only with two weapons and 2 PAs? I'm the first one to admit that this is just a matter of opinion and how people has fun is entirely subjective, but I seriously can't believe that there's anybody who doesn't get bored of that.

By the way, you didn't count there bullets and TECHs, because I can assure you that between all TECHs (well, all but 10 or so), the bullets I use only in card and longbow and the skills for my only 3 melee weapons I could go past 46 PAs anytyme. In fact I usually don't carry all my TEChs on because they don't fit and I jut pick the element I'll be using.

But the problem is not people and their habits or ways to "have fun" (even if I can't yet understand how is that "fun"), the problem is the game itself, that allows that. You can say whatever you want, but the game should aim for variety, and if you want to pick 40 Dil Edges (to save PP) and clear a mission with it, it should be less effective than using the proper weapon on the pproper monster. Sadly, there's no such thing as that in PSU.

[THLPSC]

And what is aviability when people plays only with two weapons and 2 PAs? I'm the first one to admit that this is just a matter of opinion and how people has fun is entirely subjective, but I seriously can't believe that there's anybody who doesn't get bored of that.

By the way, you didn't count there bullets and TECHs, because I can assure you that between all TECHs (well, all but 10 or so), the bullets I use only in card and longbow and the skills for my only 3 melee weapons I could go past 46 PAs anytyme. In fact I usually don't carry all my TEChs on because they don't fit and I jut pick the element I'll be using.

But the problem is not people and their habits or ways to "have fun" (even if I can't yet understand how is that "fun"), the problem is the game itself, that allows that. You can say whatever you want, but the game should aim for variety, and if you want to pick 40 Dil Edges (to save PP) and clear a mission with it, it should be less effective than using the proper weapon on the pproper monster. Sadly, there's no such thing as that in PSU.
Why does a game need to have variety to be good? All I see is you bashing why some players want to play with 2 weapons. If they want to play with two weapons let them your just being a hypocrite right now and you probably don't even realize how you are.

[Darki]

I said I respect them and I don't have any problem with them doing that. But for myself, I wouldn't ever do that. Is it hypocresy saying that I wouldn't play that way because I don't like? Then thank you, I'm a hypocrite. If it offends you that I think (that is, my personal opinion) that this sort of gameplay is utterly boring, then the problem is yours, not mine.

And why would a game not need variety to be good? I mean, a MMO. Unless you're pretending to make a game aimed for that particular part of the public who enjoys playing with the same 4 weapons over and over (no offense intended, but it's the easiest example), you gotta give it variety so your players are happy.

Apart from that, I'm talking about this game in particular. If this game was meant not for variety, then why did they add 12 classes to play, and almost 30 different weapon types with at least 3 different moves each, and like 30 different weapons minumun for each type (getting to more than 60 in some)?

If SEGA's goal was to make a game where everybody was an AF using Assault Crush with Dil Edges, why would they add everything else? Just to make it nice? Don't make me laugh.

[milranduil]

Crys - that was your (l33t + 1)th post ;<

THLPSC - Thank you, wasn't sure if I was the only seeing hypocrisy in that post lol...

Darki - You obviously completed missed my point entirely (even with 2000 EVP, you couldn't have missed it more... /sarcasm). Your very first sentence captures your true viewpoint on this argument: You don't care if people spamming AC is fun to them because it doesn't match your definition ergo it is not fun. You refuse to accept that others don't necessarily need variety in order to have "fun" not to mention that fact that you judge. I, for one, have a knuckles set, a twin dagger set, a twin claw set, a dagger set, a claw set, twin saber set, slicer set, RCSM set (both for single target, and pierce), and a card and twin handgun. I do my best to find a use for any given PA in a situation. For example, I did some testing to see what the fastest way to kill Adahna is the other day and arrived at Rising Crush! Sure, it's still a twin saber, but it's a new PA to add to the useful batch I keep on me at all times. Zubba I tend to keep on my palette also, for the off chance that there is a group of packed enemies that I can estimate would benefit from a quick punch to kill all if you will (also good for clearing floor traps without getting stuck).

I could go on, but I doubt you care because again it's not your play style, so you give less than a hoot what I, or anyone else, thinks. Point being, the problem is yours, not mine.

[Darki]

You obviously completed missed my point entirely (even with 2000 EVP, you couldn't have missed it more... /sarcasm). Your very first sentence captures your true viewpoint on this argument: You don't care if people spamming AC is fun to them because it doesn't match your definition ergo it is not fun. You refuse to accept that others don't necessarily need variety in order to have "fun" not to mention that fact that you judge. I, for one, have a knuckles set, a twin dagger set, a twin claw set, a dagger set, a claw set, twin saber set, slicer set, RCSM set (both for single target, and pierce), and a card and twin handgun. I do my best to find a use for any given PA in a situation. For example, I did some testing to see what the fastest way to kill Adahna is the other day and arrived at Rising Crush! Sure, it's still a twin saber, but it's a new PA to add to the useful batch I keep on me at all times. Zubba I tend to keep on my palette also, for the off chance that there is a group of packed enemies that I can estimate would benefit from a quick punch to kill all if you will (also good for clearing floor traps without getting stuck).

Of course I don't care how other people find their fun. Why would I? You can have fun however you want, what would you do playing a game if you're not having fun doing it?

Please, don't take offense on what I said because that wasn't my intention, On the thread matter, I was just repeating the same most of us WT players say: for us WT is the best because it's fun. Is that bad, or hypocresy? Sorry then.

On the other matters that THLPSC brought, I wasn't intending to ignore or miss the point, but the point isn't wether you have fun with the game's variety, I was just answering his previous question. You can have all the fun you want doing the same over and over without variety, I just said that for the looks, this game seems to be made with lots of content and variety, and the intention to make use of all of it. That's why I believe that the fact that there are situations like AC where you can clear a whole mission spamming it is not desirable. But I don't mean that you're doing it wrong if you like to play it like that, you can do whatever you want.

[Crysteon]

Crys - that was your (l33t + 1)th post ;<


I know! I should have stopped there, lol.

[-Hitman-]

I my case, I never EVER said anything about WT being better than other classes, vut as I've said in the other WT thread, I'll repeat myself.

What is a "better" class? If you're talking about TAs, of course WT is "inferior". But what else?

For me a class that can play with 18~19 different weapon types is WAY BETTER than a class that can play only with 3~4. Be it in JP and in 360, I'll say it anytime, anywhere. In that simple matter, they're "inferior" to WT, FOR ME.

For me all those AT freaks play with a pallette of 5 Twin Dil Edges and Assault Crush on all of them (and thanks for the new update they use a single claw for Shusou Retsuzan-ga movement, if not, they'd go with the full element rainbow) is BORING as fucking hell. So, even when I can admit that they are "better" at doing TAs and I respect them for making the effort to get the best weapons, levelling their PAs, getting GAS accordingly etc; for me they're "worse" than how I play, plain and simple. If I preferred doing TAs with an AF with a single weapon-PA combo all the day, I wouldn't play a WT with like 8 different weapons in my pallette. Duh.

Instead of thinking like an elitist, just accept the simple fact that "best" and "worst" is actually subjective, WT might be "the worst" at doing TAs (and at least in JP, it isn't), but anybody can say that WT is much better than other classes due to PA aviability, for example, or "fun". Those things are not objective facts.

I did say damage output/speed wise didn't I? I honestly do not care what others play in most cases as long as they are helping the group run quicker. I do also agree with you that AC spamming is probably very boring, since I'm 360 though I don't know the extreme damage first-hand. How exactly is it that I am "thinking like an elitist?" I don't consider myself one and I actually use all classes mainly on my human. It is my opinion that on the 360 servers that WT is the least fun to play variety or not because sure you can use 50+ PA's and have "fun" with it but you are limiting the number of runs you finish thus limiting the chance you have at rare items, rare missions ect.

[bloodflowers]

Best and worst are not subjective, enjoyment is. By all means if you enjoy a class play it, but classes and setups that do missions faster are /better/.

[BIG OLAF]

Best and worst are not subjective, enjoyment is. By all means if you enjoy a class play it, but classes and setups that do missions faster are /better/.

^This, of course. I get people naysaying on me quite often because I choose to play a Fortefighter. I don't care, though. I like the class, ergo I play the class. Yes, I'm aware Fighmaster is statistically an all-around better choice. That fact isn't debatable, but I don't care. I still like Fortefighter.

Hell, there are even some people out there that don't want to play with me because of my class choice. Well, up theirs. I don't want to play with them, anyway. Play for you, because it's your Xbox, your subscription, and your character.

[oG Epik]

^This, of course. I get people naysaying on me quite often because I choose to play a Fortefighter. I don't care, though. I like the class, ergo I play the class. Yes, I'm aware Fighmaster is statistically an all-around better choice. That fact isn't debatable, but I don't care. I still like Fortefighter.

Hell, there are even some people out there that don't want to play with me because of my class choice. Well, up theirs. I don't want to play with them, anyway. Play for you, because it's your Xbox, your subscription, and your character.

this is all true but FF has more wep choices and just does not get as boring

[Nereid]

^This, of course. I get people naysaying on me quite often because I choose to play a Fortefighter. I don't care, though. I like the class, ergo I play the class. Yes, I'm aware Fighmaster is statistically an all-around better choice. That fact isn't debatable, but I don't care. I still like Fortefighter.

Hell, there are even some people out there that don't want to play with me because of my class choice. Well, up theirs. I don't want to play with them, anyway. Play for you, because it's your Xbox, your subscription, and your character.

When AC gets buffed on your servers nobody will make fun anymore ;<

[Cloudstrife xx]

Im playing fortefighter more than fighmaster on jp its amazing!

[BIG OLAF]

When AC gets buffed on your servers nobody will make fun anymore ;<

This is probably a question I already know the answer to, but just can't think of it:

What is "AC?"


Im playing fortefighter more than fighmaster on jp its amazing!

Yes, I recall you telling me something like this last time we spoke over Xbox LIVE. I must say, I am proud of my JP Fortefighter brethren!

[-Hitman-]

Assault Crush.

[BIG OLAF]

I see. Thank you. I was trying to think of stats or something like that. But yes, I've seen this Assault Crush buff. It's quite godly.

[unicorn]

Bandwagon players. :rolleyes:

2 months ago: "FM is the only good fighter. Everything else sucks. FF who?"
now: "I'm a proud FF! Always was! WT isnt so bad! ^_^"

Gorlplease.

[DesignZ]

"I'm a proud FF! Always was!
Yup same here FF is a amazingly fun and pretty effective class. FF til I die!!! Lol.

[Crysteon]

Bandwagon players. :rolleyes:

2 months ago: "FM is the only good fighter. Everything else sucks. FF who?"
now: "I'm a proud FF! Always was! WT isnt so bad! ^_^"

Gorlplease.

Yeah, that's how it works. It's quite interesting how people who never gave a damn about AF before are buttloving it now, lol.

Credits for using the Rune of Doom, too. (i.e: "*_*"...censored for the sake of this world's fate)

[milranduil]

Bandwagon players. :rolleyes:

2 months ago: "FM is the only good fighter. Everything else sucks. FF who?"
now: "I'm a proud FF! Always was! WT isnt so bad! ^_^"

Gorlplease.

That's rather provocative in the fact that this game is ever changing...sure people can be idiots exaggerating how they've ALWAYS played this class, and never gave it up to begin with. But saying it's all bandwagon is also rather preposterous. I, for one, built my AF palette months before the AC buff. Of course, I jumped on the Twin Dil Edge bandwagon, but seriously who wouldn't? :p If you had a choice of which A-rank Twin Saber to get, which would you pick?

[unicorn]

That's rather provocative in the fact that this game is ever changing...sure people can be idiots exaggerating how they've ALWAYS played this class, and never gave it up to begin with. But saying it's all bandwagon is also rather preposterous. I, for one, built my AF palette months before the AC buff. Of course, I jumped on the Twin Dil Edge bandwagon, but seriously who wouldn't? :p If you had a choice of which A-rank Twin Saber to get, which would you pick?

I know you've been playing AF on and off though.

I'm talking about other people. I see it happen oh too often.

[Crysteon]

That's rather provocative in the fact that this game is ever changing...sure people can be idiots exaggerating how they've ALWAYS played this class, and never gave it up to begin with. But saying it's all bandwagon is also rather preposterous. I, for one, built my AF palette months before the AC buff. Of course, I jumped on the Twin Dil Edge bandwagon, but seriously who wouldn't? :p If you had a choice of which A-rank Twin Saber to get, which would you pick?

I still remember the 50%s breaking, lolol...good times.

[Noyo]

Huh who'da thunk! AF got 6 quite easily also with the right spawns.



I hate when people think Acro classes were here forever when they weren't lolz.

The REAL back in the day was when you had fT parties with a fF (for tech resistant enemies) and a fG (for SEs). Seabed days \o/

I know they werent lol... I was mostly foretecher anyway :p Masterforce is like the battle of acro and fortecher but lagger. >,> im not HATING masterforce cuz i have one.. I'm starting to like wartecher again so yea i miss it.

[xBULLYDOGG]

Picking the obvious better choice for your needs =//= jumping on bandwagon.

Anyway, I have a challange for the WTs.
4 minute run, distant memory. 5 wt's or 5wt's and a acrotech, or 6 wt's
gogogo

[Crysteon]

Picking the obvious better choice for your needs =//= jumping on bandwagon.

Anyway, I have a challange for the WTs.
4 minute run, distant memory. 5 wt's or 5wt's and a acrotech, or 6 wt's
gogogo

That's easy, even for them. How about 4 minutes with 4 WT? lol

[Ellrick C-63]

I know you've been playing AF on and off though.

I'm talking about other people. I see it happen oh too often.

In any MMO people will change their spec/class to whatever is the best as well as suits their play style. In WoW people who slayed dragons had the same exact cookie cutter spec, as well as people who pvp'd. In any MMO, including PSU you will see just that. I like fighting so if AF/FM/FF/fG gets a buff and becomes the best out of those classes, Ill play it.

In the end, people who like to be efficient will switch a to class that is the most efficient and still fits in with what they enjoy as well.

[Noyo]

In any MMO people will change their spec/class to whatever is the best as well as suits their play style. In WoW people who slayed dragons had the same exact cookie cutter spec, as well as people who pvp'd. In any MMO, including PSU you will see just that. I like fighting so if AF/FM/FF/fG gets a buff and becomes the best out of those classes, Ill play it.

In the end, people who like to be efficient will switch a to class that is the most efficient and still fits in with what they enjoy as well.

^ What he said.

[unicorn]

Gurlplease. You're all bandwagon players. Probably just take pride being the "best" type, but really aren't using it to its full extent anyway, so might as well play whatever you had in mind in the first place.

[-Hitman-]

So then everyone who switch to the best weapons as the come out are also bandwagon players? When things change and become a better class it's not bandwagon it's using whatever is the best for the situation.

[unicorn]

Lol wanting new things is not joining the bandwagon. If we're paying for the content, its only natural to want it. :P

You're really reaching.

[-Hitman-]

How so? Classes change get upgraded and become better so naturally if a class no longer sucks or puts up better times then before then obviously more people are going to use it. This game is constantly changing, saying someone is a "bandwagon" because a class that most didn't use before got something added to it or something upgraded to make it better doesn't make much sense.

[Nereid]

I agree with the bandwagon statement about AF way too much. When AC got buffed on JP I very quickly leveled it to 40 and realized how powerful it was, and continued playing AF as I have as long as I can remember. I broke up it's usage with Slicers and some other weapons just because I wanted evenly leveled PAs and what not, but I knew that AC was obviously the most powerful ability AF had access to. Still, nobody payed much attention to AF, not that I cared.

BUT, then Bobby made his AF videos, which is all fine and good because I love his videos and he's a great player, but that's what made all these people go "omgAF<33333" when they had been that good for quite a long time by that point. To me, that's annoying.

[gordon/alpha999]

Y'all still fighting over WT?

[DeltaViolet+]

I do accept strategies from others

No you really don't cry.

I made a friendly suggestion, you went around telling people that I told you how to play "your class".

What this really is about is that you feel players are invading "your" territory.

OMG! Your such a victim.

[Hero-Break]

For the curious, here is a video of a JP run of Plains Overlord S3 done by a Female Newman WT. This video was posted a few days ago. Gives you a rough idea of what a Newman WT can do (or for some, can't do) on the Japanese servers.

http://zoome.jp/psumf/diary/213

Please note that I am not the player.

[Crysteon]

No you really don't cry.

I made a friendly suggestion, you went around telling people that I told you how to play "your class".

What this really is about is that you feel players are invading "your" territory.

OMG! Your such a victim.

:0

And you took the scolding too personal I guess.

If it was my "territory", like you dare to say, Bobby would have received the major flaming way time ago. You should ask him if I ever went to him and complained heavily against the way how he plays or TAs.

I thought I told you to forget that incident...but if you dont want to get over with it, that's your problem. Hell, if you prefer not to deal with me ever again, you know what to do...I'm not gonna beg ya to unBL me anyway...do I need you in the first place? NO! So, please, stop whining.

[DeltaViolet+]

You dedicated a paragraph to me but YES!! I'm the one who is whining.

OH! Didn't realize making a suggestion is a personal attack. I'm so Sorry about your feelings.

I'm off to play the game, I would sit on the forums and bitch and whine but id probably be invading your "territory".

Your like super cool and better than me in every way. Enjoy.

[Crysteon]

If you wanna feel so identified with a general statement I did and take it that personal, I dont really care.

Suggestion? Try to re-read with you PMd, strongly making it look like it was an absolute truth and the best way to act.

Cant you just get over it, or what?

[milranduil]

For the curious, here is a video of a JP run of Plains Overlord S3 done by a Female Newman WT. This video was posted a few days ago. Gives you a rough idea of what a Newman WT can do (or for some, can't do) on the Japanese servers.

http://zoome.jp/psumf/diary/213

Please note that I am not the player.

That person has some okay TAs, but, to be honest, they aren't really anything special. He does have Rutsus which helps for his fT/MF videos. Plains Overlord S3 isn't really a good way to show what WT can do considering the enemies are Lv 145 i.e. 12k HP vs. Lv 180 21k HP lol.

[bloodflowers]

Nice to know those higher PA levels, stronger weapons and higher base stats really count for something.

http://psu.system11.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/personalduo-ta/se11at.jpg

Oh.

What was WT's role again?

[-Hitman-]

inb4 "It's because your a CAST and have SUV" excuse.

[Nereid]

It's mostly because he plays a good class. :)

[Lumpen Thingy]

Nice to know those higher PA levels, stronger weapons and higher base stats really count for something.

http://psu.system11.org/blog/wp-content/gallery/personalduo-ta/se11at.jpg

Oh.

What was WT's role again?
best pic yet

[mr pink]

All that pic prove is that this game is too easy.

[darkante]

No pics needed for that conclusion.

[Vintasticvin]

^^To the OP, Nice job photo shopping the imagae Wooo hoo yeah bravo to ya for real!!! And whats with all these other users photo shoping times on random runs? Not good not good at all.

[gordon/alpha999]

I'm going too try as a PT :>

^^To the OP, Nice job photo shopping the imagae Wooo hoo yeah bravo to ya for real!!! And whats with all these other users photo shoping times on random runs? Not good not good at all.

Photoshop? Your about to start a fight.

[darkante]

Photoshopping times is the new thing.
It´s like saying "hey baby" to McCheese.

[Vintasticvin]

I'm going too try as a PT :>


Photoshop? Your about to start a fight.

I beg to differ, but if the said fight does happen I will let you tell me "I told you so!"

[Vintasticvin]

Photoshopping times is the new thing.
It´s like saying "hey baby" to McCheese.

:-)Man I could go for some Mac n cheese right a bout neow