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Kurosu
Dec 19, 2011, 01:48 PM
Just trying to stir up some discussion in these boards since lately the activity has gone down a lot.
How do you feel about some less optimized build combinations, such as Beast Force, or Newman Hunter and the like?
I'm sure some people just don't know or don't care and just go with what they like, and then you have more power oriented players that go for the optimal combination.

Personally I'm playing Beast/Ranger at the moment, which could be said to be the worst race for Ranger, but it still works decently.
Actually, the main reason I didn't make a new character is because I don't want to go through all the grind again, and this character has nearly every stat maxed out except EVA and TEC.

Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't make a CAST after all, since the difference between ATA between a CAST and a Beast is quite significant on a maxed out (rebirths/type/level) character.
But I just don't have that much time to grind. So to me it is a matter of convenience, time and patience.

How about you?

AsuravonD
Dec 19, 2011, 02:01 PM
I've done beast ranger before...though I think I added some Hit-modules as well...

Wynn<3
Dec 19, 2011, 02:16 PM
It all matters if it's fun to the player. That's how i see class combination and play how you like.

raijz
Dec 19, 2011, 02:20 PM
Cast Supremacy. Nuff said.

Miki~
Dec 19, 2011, 02:28 PM
I have a few common and uncommon typings:

This is from my personal experience playing online and comparing my own typings, meaning these typings are my current characters:
1.Newman force (very common)
2.Human Hunter (very common)
3.Human Ranger (somewhat uncommon)
4.Cast Ranger (very common)
5.Cast Vanguard (uncommon)
6.Beast Hunter (very common)
7.Beast Vanguard (a little less common)
8.Duman Force (a bit common)

I do know someone who has a Focaseal and uses her very well, and I do believe a beast ranger, cast vanguard, beast force can work well if you know how to pick the right abilities and weaon set ups.

Temprus
Dec 19, 2011, 03:00 PM
The most unoptimized?

Don't think type. Think gender. Newman male is unoptimized. Seriously. There is no such thing. There are only Newman women.

Miki~
Dec 19, 2011, 03:02 PM
The most unoptimized?

Don't think type. Think gender. Newman male is unoptimized. Seriously. There is no such thing. There are only Newman women.

lol i've seen maybe 1 male newman. Beasts are typically female I dont see a lot of males but i do see some. Casts are about equal with sighlty more females, humans are equal, and dumans are almost always female.

^Based on my own experience.

Temprus
Dec 19, 2011, 03:11 PM
lol i've seen maybe 1 male newman. Beasts are typically female I dont see a lot of males but i do see some. Casts are about equal with sighlty more females, humans are equal, and dumans are almost always female.

^Based on my own experience.

Nah, you're missing the point. There are no male newman.

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/TemprusofTime/PhantasyStar/Newman-Male.jpghttp://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/TemprusofTime/PhantasyStar/Newman-Female.jpg

Both are girls. Just one is more feminine and wears blue and white.

Kurosu
Dec 19, 2011, 04:55 PM
Or just many lolicons out there. :D

Digital Doom
Dec 19, 2011, 07:20 PM
I do know what you mean by the "not wanting to/ or having time to grind multiple characters". I think that is one of the main reasons i chose a human. I wanted a good balance between all types. Also I have always had a thing for Hunewearls since PSOGC. I guess I just like the look. I try to switch between ra/hu/fo but I find myself playing FO most of the time. As far as race/type it seems like because of rebirth any class can be at least decent with any type.

Alisha
Dec 19, 2011, 07:40 PM
theres 2 race/type combos that were bad in vanilla but may be good in infinity. human and cast vanguard. beast RA was hell to get to 25 i ended up mostly using axe as beast RA. if i ever decide to take it to 30 ill probally try to push my PP regen to the max,but first im gonna do beast FO melee style.

Reikoku na kuma
Dec 19, 2011, 08:16 PM
IMO I loved doing the whole "unoptimized" picks. Even back on PSU (fem beast guntecher/gunmaster & fem newman fighmaster). I do it at times on infinity as well. I find it more fun going against what's supposed to be that races optimized type.

baka_usagi
Dec 20, 2011, 07:40 PM
Well, I like to max out all my types on my characters, so yeah I go "unoptimized". Sometimes, I don't wanna switch chars, so I'll just switch types for a certain drop. Even switching to hunter on my MALE NEWMAN, Skai. :P I only know of two other people who uses male newman >.>

Alucard V
Dec 21, 2011, 12:48 PM
Nah, you're missing the point. There are no male newman.

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/TemprusofTime/PhantasyStar/Newman-Male.jpghttp://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/TemprusofTime/PhantasyStar/Newman-Female.jpg

Both are girls. Just one is more feminine and wears blue and white.

Looks male to me.

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1429&pictureid=24331

Mike
Dec 21, 2011, 07:20 PM
Looks male to me.

http://www.pso-world.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=1429&pictureid=24331
That's just an optical illusion.

Alucard V
Dec 21, 2011, 09:09 PM
That's just an optical illusion.

If it is, its only because the real ones behind you. Samurai rock like that.

They could need a Gi for the monk look even tho the such as hunters.

Scale of Judgment
Dec 21, 2011, 09:59 PM
Nah, you're missing the point. There are no male newman.

http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/TemprusofTime/PhantasyStar/Newman-Male.jpghttp://i899.photobucket.com/albums/ac197/TemprusofTime/PhantasyStar/Newman-Female.jpg

Both are girls. Just one is more feminine and wears blue and white.

Why does the blue and white remind me of Blazblue?! Damn Newmans...No wonder Karen went for Ethan as a love interest.