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Garrett_TD23
Jan 14, 2013, 04:53 PM
The first time I battle Kireek in Waterfall of Tears, he said something about "My Pioneer 1 rival would be happy I found a worthy opponent."

Who is his Pioneer 1 rival?

T0m
Jan 14, 2013, 05:08 PM
Heathcliff Flowen.

Garrett_TD23
Jan 14, 2013, 06:14 PM
Perhaps it was explained, but how did they become rivals when everyone on Pioneer 1 / Ragol die?

Caledonia
Jan 14, 2013, 07:05 PM
Heathcliff Flowen.

Was it? I never got to play Seat of the Heart, or any other quests that had Kireek in them, but the only people I knew were connected to Flowen were Donolph (the retired Hunter) and Rico.

And Garret, they would have been rivals before Pioneer 1 ever left the home world. Or they would have been comparing records while Pioneer 2 was in transit.

Garrett_TD23
Jan 14, 2013, 08:26 PM
Because we are on the topic of filling in the story lines. Who is "DB"? Could it be Donoph?

DC_PLAYER
Jan 15, 2013, 07:49 AM
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Kireek
AKA: The Black Hound
HUcast: Purple (Bluefull)
Relations:
Occupation: Hunter, Smuggler, assassin
Special Powers: Stealing the health of his enemies
Affiliations: Black Paper Organization
Enemies: Unspecified Pioneer1 rival, the law



You first meet Kireek during the quest ‘Battle Training’. Kireek is very powerful (except in V-hard/ultimate), and helpful as well, even though he prefers to work alone. Yes, powerful, helpful Kireek wants you to become more powerful as well. However, if he had a heart, he wouldn’t be doing all this for you just from the goodness of it. He sees something in you all right: a possible worthy opponent. Kireek is the powerhouse/assassin for the illegal organization Black Paper. He always equips the weapon Soul Eater, which gives him his special power.

If you -Do Not- tell Sue your name in the quest "Dr. Ostos' Research", Black Paper will see you as a threat, and send this purple HUcast after you. Kireek is one of the game’s most fascinating characters, as you meet him and fight him several times as you follow his decent into whatever form of insanity androids can have. Falz saw his power, just as it saw Ricos' and starts him on his path to insanity.

He had a rival on Pioneer 1. To obtain his Soul Eater, you fight him in "From the Depths" after he defeats Ash in the ruins. If you defeat him, he will drop his weapon. After he is defeated by you, Falz takes his nearly dead body and he meets the same fate as everyone from Pioneer 1.

Kireeks' P1 rival was HeathCliff Flowen. When Kireek learns that Flowen Died, he tries to fill the emptiness by doing Black Paper's dirty work, becoming the Assassin "The Black Hound". However, no one seems strong enough to truly challenge him as Flowen once did, so he challenges you instead, after he dissappears once the authorities begin an investigation. "It is rumored that he was killed by a hunter, but the rumors are unconfirmed".

Caledonia
Jan 15, 2013, 08:30 AM
Not that I doubt you at all DC, but what's the source for that?



Because we are on the topic of filling in the story lines. Who is "DB"? Could it be Donoph?

As Donoph was on Pioneer 2 I doubt you'd be finding his cast-off equipment on the surface of Ragol

T0m
Jan 15, 2013, 09:03 AM
As far as I know at no point in the games (episode 1 to 4) is there any conclusive evidence about who Kireek's rival is. But, also as far as I know, on PSO-World the reigning theory is that Flowen was Kireek's rival. See DC-Player's quote.

With some digging around here, some cool threads can be found with all kinds of info about PSO's story. For anyone interested, here's an example (http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46312).

Caledonia
Jan 15, 2013, 01:27 PM
Wow, that's a really good thread... Thank you much!

DC_PLAYER
Jan 15, 2013, 02:12 PM
I had the page saved because (as i expected) the website went down.
website was phantasystardynasty

by using waybackmachine you might find other random info
http://web.archive.org/web/20120322180504/http://www.phantasystardynasty.com/

Garrett_TD23
Jan 15, 2013, 08:51 PM
I've read through the first 10 pages, very interesting thread indeed. The best post occurred on page 9: http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46312&page=9 where the guy explains the time line of events.

There are also things I had no clue about such as "MOTHER".

These post are 9 years old, quite the blast from the past. I actually retired from PSO on New Years 2003/2004. The last few months I was so burned out from playing, but I genuinely liked some of the friends I made online. It seems I may have retired too early, I think a few new quest must have came out since then.